Red rank state
So did anyone in red ranks get a single game that wasn't 4 man swf rushing gens?
Last two days they were only games I was getting and as you can imagine they are not very fun.
I know that devs idea of perfect balanced game is 20 minutes long. That is why my average games are 4-5 minutes. More if they f***up.
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Nope. Haven't gotten any.
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As a solo survivor I have yet to reach red ranks. Rank 5 currently.0
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@theArashi said:
So did anyone in red ranks get a single game that wasn't 4 man swf rushing gens?
Last two days they were only games I was getting and as you can imagine they are not very fun.I know that devs idea of perfect balanced game is 20 minutes long. That is why my average games are 4-5 minutes. More if they f***up.
Played too much spirit because I enjoyed her so much, hit red ranks eventually because piping is way too easy/fast and instantly regret it.
One hook in a single game, that was the game when I decided that I will derank again, even if it is double BP at the moment.
Just a pitty that spirit is so weak, especially with bad/no addons
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Just finished playing a match with Doctor at Blood Lodge where the CWF literally spawned on top of my Ruin which was on the other side of the map, i couldnt reach it in time...
Got gen rushed and only one kill/rage quit, but i still got more points than all of them and didnt lose my pip
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@theArashi said:
So did anyone in red ranks get a single game that wasn't 4 man swf rushing gens?
Last two days they were only games I was getting and as you can imagine they are not very fun.I know that devs idea of perfect balanced game is 20 minutes long. That is why my average games are 4-5 minutes. More if they f***up.
Played too much spirit because I enjoyed her so much, hit red ranks eventually because piping is way too easy/fast and instantly regret it.
One hook in a single game, that was the game when I decided that I will derank again, even if it is double BP at the moment.
Just a pitty that spirit is so weak, especially with bad/no addons
It isn't spirit. NO KILLER can actually win against people that rush so much.
There is nothing you can do if game last 4 minutes and they ofc all run adrenaline which will trigger at the perfect moment you just downed someone.0 -
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@theArashi said:
So did anyone in red ranks get a single game that wasn't 4 man swf rushing gens?
Last two days they were only games I was getting and as you can imagine they are not very fun.I know that devs idea of perfect balanced game is 20 minutes long. That is why my average games are 4-5 minutes. More if they f***up.
Played too much spirit because I enjoyed her so much, hit red ranks eventually because piping is way too easy/fast and instantly regret it.
One hook in a single game, that was the game when I decided that I will derank again, even if it is double BP at the moment.
Just a pitty that spirit is so weak, especially with bad/no addons
Same, played far too much trying to get bps for my other killers which I actually completed getting all my last teachable. At the horrible cost of pipping into level 9 or 10 and can already see a difference in toxicity. Gonna play other games for a few months to derank back into normal/fun territory.
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90% time play solo survivor and get rank 1 (on PS4). There doesn’t seem to be too many groups that I end up playing with but maybe me being the solo messes up the equation. SWF groups tend to be much more toxic to the killer though it feels and looks bad0
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@CrtKazz said:
90% time play solo survivor and get rank 1 (on PS4). There doesn’t seem to be too many groups that I end up playing with but maybe me being the solo messes up the equation. SWF groups tend to be much more toxic to the killer though it feels and looks badI'm not talking about being toxic even though that appear too.
I'm talking solely about hardcore genrush they bring.
Just finish the game as fast as you can and gtfo, killer is there too but it's rank 1 swf. Looping will take enough time off him for the rest to finish all gens.
I literally had game in which 5 gens were done below 4 minutes back to back as my spirit didn't have the ruin.0 -
Anyone find a killer that isn't camping and tunneling at Rank 1?
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im playing survivor at rank1 this season solo, with no items, no offerings, so its not “all” swf 2
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@Visionmaker said:
Anyone find a killer that isn't camping and tunneling at Rank 1?4 gens done after first chase, WHY IS HE CAMPING?!
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No because tunneling is the only way to systematically eradicate a 4 man SWF, which is 90 percent of rank 1 games. Tunneling is the way!Visionmaker said:Anyone find a killer that isn't camping and tunneling at Rank 1?
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@theArashi said:
@Visionmaker said:
Anyone find a killer that isn't camping and tunneling at Rank 1?4 gens done after first chase, WHY IS HE CAMPING?!
That literally just happened, except he let two people go after downing them just to camp me. If only I stood still and let him down me! Darn!
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@Visionmaker said:
@theArashi said:
@Visionmaker said:
Anyone find a killer that isn't camping and tunneling at Rank 1?4 gens done after first chase, WHY IS HE CAMPING?!
That literally just happened, except he let two people go after downing them just to camp me. If only I stood still and let him down me! Darn!
From the games I played as killer and as survivor, everyone is rushing gens as fast as they possibly can.
Even if survivors are not doing it, killers are playing as if they are. hence, tunnels and camps.Killer can't do anything to survivors that are just rushing gens.
There is no counterplay to it so it will lead to frustration of the killers. That's why there are so many moris around too,4 -
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@Visionmaker said:
Anyone find a killer that isn't camping and tunneling at Rank 1?I don't know why but in the past there were just billies and nurses. None of them was camping or tunneling even if they lose.
Now, there is a lot more variety but most of killers camp and tunnel.
I don't know what changed though.
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nice jealousy success?Vietfox said:
Nice brag attemptLowbei said:im playing survivor at rank1 this season solo, with no items, no offerings, so its not “all” swf
you are rank19. welcome to dbddavidps4DBD said:Red rank is trash in this game1 -
@theArashi said:
@Visionmaker said:
@theArashi said:
@Visionmaker said:
Anyone find a killer that isn't camping and tunneling at Rank 1?4 gens done after first chase, WHY IS HE CAMPING?!
That literally just happened, except he let two people go after downing them just to camp me. If only I stood still and let him down me! Darn!
From the games I played as killer and as survivor, everyone is rushing gens as fast as they possibly can.
Even if survivors are not doing it, killers are playing as if they are. hence, tunnels and camps.Killer can't do anything to survivors that are just rushing gens.
There is no counterplay to it so it will lead to frustration of the killers. That's why there are so many moris around too,"Killers camp and tunnel because survivors gen rush"
"Survivors should gen rush if they want to counter camping and tunneling"Hmmmm... It's almost as if people are going to play however they want to play and they are always going to blame their behavior on someone else...
Oh, and when survivors actually stop doing the objective to go save a camped/tunneled survivor, I'm sure the killer is going to say something along the lines of "that's what you get for hook diving instead of doing the objective", or "altruistic survivors are what makes it easy for killers to camp".
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@Visionmaker said:
Anyone find a killer that isn't camping and tunneling at Rank 1?I don't know why but in the past there were just billies and nurses. None of them was camping or tunneling even if they lose.
Now, there is a lot more variety but most of killers camp and tunnel.
I don't know what changed though.
Haven't seen a Nurse at all lately actually. Normally Rank 1s don't camp or tunnel, but 2x BP seems to bring the shithead out of red ranks for some reason.
Though I haven't seen moris lately either, so it's not all that bad. I don't see the point of using moris when you could just be using BP offerings.
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Nope! 🤣🤣🤣🤣😲😭Visionmaker said:Anyone find a killer that isn't camping and tunneling at Rank 1?
Most are toxic af this event too... 🤷♀️ Idk why though.1 -
@theArashi said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@theArashi said:
So did anyone in red ranks get a single game that wasn't 4 man swf rushing gens?
Last two days they were only games I was getting and as you can imagine they are not very fun.I know that devs idea of perfect balanced game is 20 minutes long. That is why my average games are 4-5 minutes. More if they f***up.
Played too much spirit because I enjoyed her so much, hit red ranks eventually because piping is way too easy/fast and instantly regret it.
One hook in a single game, that was the game when I decided that I will derank again, even if it is double BP at the moment.
Just a pitty that spirit is so weak, especially with bad/no addons
It isn't spirit. NO KILLER can actually win against people that rush so much.
There is nothing you can do if game last 4 minutes and they ofc all run adrenaline which will trigger at the perfect moment you just downed someone.I am not talking about depip quality squads.
Now that I put spirit into the trashbag, I switched back to hag and 4ked a SWF with all kidn of crutches that werent even that bad. As spirit I verse a similar team and got 2 hooks the whole game.
Sure, every other killer than nurse will get rekt completely if survivors really put on their tryhard pants, but spirit doesnt stand a chance against the normal high rank SWF already that use their brains. Other killers can still get sth going at least
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@slingshotsurvivor said:
Visionmaker said:Anyone find a killer that isn't camping and tunneling at Rank 1?
Nope! 🤣🤣🤣🤣😲😭
Most are toxic af this event too... 🤷♀️ Idk why though.Mabye because they want BP and tunneling is the only way to ensure you get a few kills against genrushers
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@CrtKazz said:
90% time play solo survivor and get rank 1 (on PS4). There doesn’t seem to be too many groups that I end up playing with but maybe me being the solo messes up the equation. SWF groups tend to be much more toxic to the killer though it feels and looks badToxicity is another story, the problem spirit has that she is to weak and has no tools to punish these toxic survivors^^
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@Visionmaker You do know killers can only react though right? That it's survivors who decide what a killer does?
With the exception of straight up pointless facecamping (which is indeed countered by rushing - killer gets 1 and looses) everything else is always in the hands of the survivors.
Run after the killer, flashlight or bodyblock while he's carrying and you probably will have him patrolling the area until he sees you. Run, flashlight click and emote and the killer will know you're bait and someone else is around (so only 1 possibly on a Gen. Any Gen). Make sure the killer doesn't see anyone and have a Gen pop off and you'll just have to wait for him to go and leave the area...etc
Survivors are literally in control. And yes tunneling is just efficiency and a design issue. Killers don't have to avoid it just so you can have fun when most likely they're being ineffective and aren't having fun themselves, having finished one chase and only have 2 gens to go for example.
Be grateful when a killer cares about your enjoyment, not the other way around.And specially don't be toxic to the killers who are doing bad because they are going out of their way to avoid tunneling or camping. Even when they only keep finding the injured survivor... Don't tbag them, flash them obnoxiously, wait at the gates to waste time or message them.
You might just convert them to straight face campers. Just be grateful to those and there'll be more of us2 -
Can't say I have... Ran into any at all yet.
First I need to get a match
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Out of around 15-20 games(queue times are increadible) I had maybe 3 games when it wasn't most hardcore genrush.
Sure, survivors can rush gens to punish camping and tunelling.... but they can do it if killer doesn't do that too.
If survivors are not potatoes with legs you can't stop them until they mess up and these teams of 4 VERY RARELY do.They are like cockroaches that crawled from under the rock and decided to farm as many points as fast as possible with no risk attached.
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Note to self, don't listen to most of the people who post here because they are bad. Reaching upper ranks and struggling has a lot more to do with your lack of ability than it does with "gen rushing". Running ruin with haunted ground helps a lot. There are some games and some maps that you just won't do well on, it happens so get over it. You guys act like swf is a death sentence but its really not. You simply lack the ability to control the tempo of the game better. I have some games where I get wrecked, but those are few and far in between. Most swf groups couldn't run a loop to save their lives. Also, being aware of which loops to avoid chasing survivors and knowing when a survivor is good and going after his friends instead, will help you tremendously.
And for those saying that spirit is garbage only proves to me that you aren't very good. I could say that nurse is garbage because I'm terrible with her, but that doesn't make her bad, just me. I wreck swf with spirit. She's my go to when I face a group I think will try to troll me. In 50-60 games I've played with her, I have yet to get less than 2 kills with her and I'm playing at rank 1. I'm not an amazing killer, I'm just determined and I know how to play to her strengths. Stop saying this killer or that killer is bad when you don't even know how to play them properly.4 -
Try running, Hex: Thrill of the Hunt, Hex: Ruin, Hex: Devour Hope, and Hex: Hallowed Grounds, all at the same time. This is a toxic killer build, as survivors are doomed if they cleans totems, and they are doomed if they don’t. Hex: No One Escapes Death can sometimes be swapped for Hex: Devour Hope, but would not work as well for most killers.
P.S. I wholeheartedly agree with @Just_Clown1n_Around ‘s post above.
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@LowbeiLowbei said:
nice jealousy success?Vietfox said:
Nice brag attemptLowbei said:im playing survivor at rank1 this season solo, with no items, no offerings, so its not “all” swf
you are rank19. welcome to dbddavidps4DBD said:Red rank is trash in this game
I would never get jelaous because of a game, i'm not that childish
PS: @me next time, replies from cellphones don't send the notification0 -
@Lowbei said:
im playing survivor at rank1 this season solo, with no items, no offerings, so its not “all” swfGo no perks Mr. and you'll see a new type of fun in solo surviving - it brings a whole new essence to the game.
Solo survivor is the way to go.
[op] I never have SWF groups with me when I play much
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@Just_Clown1n_Around said:
Note to self, don't listen to most of the people who post here because they are bad. Reaching upper ranks and struggling has a lot more to do with your lack of ability than it does with "gen rushing". Running ruin with haunted ground helps a lot. There are some games and some maps that you just won't do well on, it happens so get over it. You guys act like swf is a death sentence but its really not. You simply lack the ability to control the tempo of the game better. I have some games where I get wrecked, but those are few and far in between. Most swf groups couldn't run a loop to save their lives. Also, being aware of which loops to avoid chasing survivors and knowing when a survivor is good and going after his friends instead, will help you tremendously.And for those saying that spirit is garbage only proves to me that you aren't very good. I could say that nurse is garbage because I'm terrible with her, but that doesn't make her bad, just me. I wreck swf with spirit. She's my go to when I face a group I think will try to troll me. In 50-60 games I've played with her, I have yet to get less than 2 kills with her and I'm playing at rank 1. I'm not an amazing killer, I'm just determined and I know how to play to her strengths. Stop saying this killer or that killer is bad when you don't even know how to play them properly.
And I say it is not the fault of the killer.
All maps have loops, and then there are survivors that know how to use them properly. I know that most swf parties are ######### at the game but these were not. All of them or at least all of those that I played against didn't fall for a single mindgame around the pallet and most people fall for them.
Normal games also have 3 gens popping in the middle of the first chase but then hook save isn't perfectly timed with last 2 gens popping to trigger adrenaline and person that did the unhook is always single survivor that has BT.
If you think coordination of survivors is impossible then you must be very lucky indeed.0 -
@Just_Clown1n_Around
Not sure how to feel about you generally calling everyone bad and then depending on ruin lol.
I do agree with you though. If you're struggling it has more to do with your ability.
Specially agree on the killers except saying someone is bad overall cause they can't use spirit... I'm great at spirit and most of the others but awful with Billy, doesn't make me a bad killer lol.
But yea, with the exception of Anna right now, every killer can do a decent job. They're just not for everyone. I think people will learn spirit is actually high tier soon. Specially after the buff0 -
@theArashi said:
So did anyone in red ranks get a single game that wasn't 4 man swf rushing gens?
Last two days they were only games I was getting and as you can imagine they are not very fun.I know that devs idea of perfect balanced game is 20 minutes long. That is why my average games are 4-5 minutes. More if they f***up.
Sometimes they 3 man only
The games that last longer than 10 minutes are really rare, usually 4-7 mins
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To everyone only blaming killers for their behaviour... There's things like pallet looping and instant saves which force us to play scummy. Pallet loopers waste a lot of time. To regain that time you have to almost always hunt the already injured person, even when just pulled from the hook. Thus tunneling them. I'm not really a fan of the camping strat but it works pretty well I guess since survivors don't get that they do have to let that camped survivor be sacrificed.
I would always just walk away if it wasn't for annoying instant saves. Now I am forced to patrol a bit and sometimes even hard patrol, which sucks for the survivor but isn't entirely my fault.
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Good news. All of the potato survivors finally ranked up after the even.
I'm getting potatoes after potatoes right now. Freddy OP
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I don't know where you've been but ruin is meta and all the best killers run it. It's practically mandatory at rank 1. 99% of killers who don't use ruin at rank 1, use NOED to make up for it. Pick your poison.Ashkiin said:@Just_Clown1n_Around
Not sure how to feel about you generally calling everyone bad and then depending on ruin lol.
I do agree with you though. If you're struggling it has more to do with your ability.
Specially agree on the killers except saying someone is bad overall cause they can't use spirit... I'm great at spirit and most of the others but awful with Billy, doesn't make me a bad killer lol.
But yea, with the exception of Anna right now, every killer can do a decent job. They're just not for everyone. I think people will learn spirit is actually high tier soon. Specially after the buff0 -
Devour Hope, Hex : Haunted Grounds, Sloppy Butcher. Those are my core three perks and I’ve been screwing around with others cause I haven’t gotten BBQ on Spirit yet. Don’t need a Ruin, just need to catch 3 people and 3 hooks before game is over. Can try it if you want, doesn’t always work, but it’s more reliable than Ruin. Don’t bring Ruin cause Survivors will leave your totems alone. Till it’s too late with Devour Hope.Just_Clown1n_Around said:
I don't know where you've been but ruin is meta and all the best killers run it. It's practically mandatory at rank 1. 99% of killers who don't use ruin at rank 1, use NOED to make up for it. Pick your poison.Ashkiin said:@Just_Clown1n_Around
Not sure how to feel about you generally calling everyone bad and then depending on ruin lol.
I do agree with you though. If you're struggling it has more to do with your ability.
Specially agree on the killers except saying someone is bad overall cause they can't use spirit... I'm great at spirit and most of the others but awful with Billy, doesn't make me a bad killer lol.
But yea, with the exception of Anna right now, every killer can do a decent job. They're just not for everyone. I think people will learn spirit is actually high tier soon. Specially after the buff0 -
My favorite build I've been running on her is ruin, devour, haunted, and thrill. With her ability to quickly make it across the map, protecting totems is viable and makes this build dangerous. Ruin slows the game, thrill slows totem breaking, devour puts pressure on survivors to start breaking totems, and haunted ground punishes them for trying. Once I have 3 stacks on devour, I start patrolling hexes and leave gens alone because I know they will be looking everywhere for them and they will come to me.SovererignKing said:
Devour Hope, Hex : Haunted Grounds, Sloppy Butcher. Those are my core three perks and I’ve been screwing around with others cause I haven’t gotten BBQ on Spirit yet. Don’t need a Ruin, just need to catch 3 people and 3 hooks before game is over. Can try it if you want, doesn’t always work, but it’s more reliable than Ruin. Don’t bring Ruin cause Survivors will leave your totems alone. Till it’s too late with Devour Hope.Just_Clown1n_Around said:
I don't know where you've been but ruin is meta and all the best killers run it. It's practically mandatory at rank 1. 99% of killers who don't use ruin at rank 1, use NOED to make up for it. Pick your poison.Ashkiin said:@Just_Clown1n_Around
Not sure how to feel about you generally calling everyone bad and then depending on ruin lol.
I do agree with you though. If you're struggling it has more to do with your ability.
Specially agree on the killers except saying someone is bad overall cause they can't use spirit... I'm great at spirit and most of the others but awful with Billy, doesn't make me a bad killer lol.
But yea, with the exception of Anna right now, every killer can do a decent job. They're just not for everyone. I think people will learn spirit is actually high tier soon. Specially after the buff0 -
My favorite build I've been running on her is ruin, devour, haunted, and thrill. With her ability to quickly make it across the map, protecting totems is viable and makes this build dangerous. Ruin slows the game, thrill slows totem breaking, devour puts pressure on survivors to start breaking totems, and haunted ground punishes them for trying. Once I have 3 stacks on devour, I start patrolling hers and leave gens alone. They come to me every time.SovererignKing said:
Devour Hope, Hex : Haunted Grounds, Sloppy Butcher. Those are my core three perks and I’ve been screwing around with others cause I haven’t gotten BBQ on Spirit yet. Don’t need a Ruin, just need to catch 3 people and 3 hooks before game is over. Can try it if you want, doesn’t always work, but it’s more reliable than Ruin. Don’t bring Ruin cause Survivors will leave your totems alone. Till it’s too late with Devour Hope.Just_Clown1n_Around said:
I don't know where you've been but ruin is meta and all the best killers run it. It's practically mandatory at rank 1. 99% of killers who don't use ruin at rank 1, use NOED to make up for it. Pick your poison.Ashkiin said:@Just_Clown1n_Around
Not sure how to feel about you generally calling everyone bad and then depending on ruin lol.
I do agree with you though. If you're struggling it has more to do with your ability.
Specially agree on the killers except saying someone is bad overall cause they can't use spirit... I'm great at spirit and most of the others but awful with Billy, doesn't make me a bad killer lol.
But yea, with the exception of Anna right now, every killer can do a decent job. They're just not for everyone. I think people will learn spirit is actually high tier soon. Specially after the buff0 -
Swf is rough to play against, but certain perks and tactics can screw up their plans. Franklin's Demise can be devastating if they are using good items and add-ons, but coordination is key. breaking off a chase is sometimes the best idea to pressure someone else. Try using perks that waste alot of the survivor's time. Ruin, Sloppy Butcher even using bait totems can help waste a bit of time. I don't struggle alot against Swf, but when I do, it's usually my own fault.
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@Sziosis said:
Swf is rough to play against, but certain perks and tactics can screw up their plans. Franklin's Demise can be devastating if they are using good items and add-ons, but coordination is key. breaking off a chase is sometimes the best idea to pressure someone else. Try using perks that waste alot of the survivor's time. Ruin, Sloppy Butcher even using bait totems can help waste a bit of time. I don't struggle alot against Swf, but when I do, it's usually my own fault.I never talked about your good ol' run of the mill swf survivors that finally reached rank 1.
I mean those that don't care about ruin as you can just easily push through it and sloppy butcher takes single survivor for up to 25 seconds unless they run to their friend to heal them faster assuming you managed to hit them as they are very good at looping.0
