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Vet Players need to come back (this is mainly venting)
There's not a lot of vet players still playing this game. And red rank means nothing. I even tried explaining to someone a devotion 1 red rank isnt a real red rank especially now since its easier to rank up now vs old rank reset and when we needed to put in actual hours to get to rank 1. You could play like a complete idiot and get to red rank. Im tired of team mates with self care in the corner of the map during a no ed. I'm tired of noobs getting to red rank so they think they're good but suck. I miss vet players. On the killer and survivor side. Killers that actually gave you a challenge and didnt DC after one loop and survivors who used common sense. I think what would get old vet players back is if we added a competitive mode. Based on devotion rank and certain challenges. Itd be ranked differently vs how its ranked now. Also its harder to level up and if you do an unsafe hook or something negative you lose waaaay more points towards it. This mode would be for vets and god tier players only. Like an actual rank matchmaking. This game has lost so much competitiveness and is now a "vibe" i miss old try hard competitive DBD with old try hard vets.
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I'm personally on break for a little bit.
I might comeback whenever my CIV 5 match ends, me and some friends are playing domination only, so it might take a while.
See ya when Spring Trap gets added xD
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Im on a FORCED break myself. My PC started smoking this morning... So until I can get it fixed, no DBD for me.
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That's brutal. Sometimes that happens I guess.
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I did come back, but then Death Stranding happened.
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I mean im a veteren and im still around granted im not a 2016 veteren but point being most people got fed up with the developers and parted ways because they found something more enjoyable about 90% of true veterens are gone and imma be honest they likely will never return.
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Playing killer is a mess and deeply unfun
Surviors que is like 20 minutes to play a 5 minute match
ghosts of sushi just came out
Yeah I might end up not coming back from a break because of these billy changes alone
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I've been playing since launch day, still here.
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I’m a red rank survivor and I play survivor like an idiot.
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I played this game for a long time, got to r1 before the braindead rank rework, so I guess I'm a vet.
It's not appealing anymore. This largely isn't a skill based game, and recent changes have continued to demonstrate (as if it wasn't obvious before) that the dev team is 80-90% out of touch with the community. Honestly a terrible team, and I just don't really wanna support that actively anymore.
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I came back for the event... only to realize why I left in the first place. Come back to the game just for the devs to give away my exclusive cosmetics, nerf my main of 3 years (for no reason, add-ons are fine, but his base kit? Really?), and to remember that killers are weak as hell. I'm beginning to lose motivation to start the next match again. Guess there's gonna be some people who will say I'm not a true vet, even though I've been following this game since beta and bought it practically the second it came to console.
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Can we stop exaggerating? Killers are not that weak. The only time a killer might struggle is if the person playing sucks or you're against a good SWF group. It's not that hard.
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You should tell it to stop, that's very bad for its lungs.
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It's not an exaggeration to say killers are weak, that's a fact. Can they do well? Sure, but a group of decent survivors (not just swf) can kick a killer's ass without trying. There are plenty of killers who, even if the guy playing them has completely mastered them, will still struggle to beat a group of survivors (wraith, clown, leatherface, etc.) A common belief is that a killer can do nothing but take advantage of their mistakes, I can even use a match of my earlier today as an example. Was shaking off my rust as billy and starting to get good again, no chase lasted more than 20 seconds, with most them ending immediately with a saw, yet I got an entity disappointed and 2 escaped. Simply because gens got done immediately, all it took was one guy being a gen jocky to win the match, the three other survivors where all working on gens right next to me and I managed to get them off it every time. I don't believe it to be an exaggertion to say I made little mistakes, I'm an extremely competitve person and I was still satisfied with the loss, because I played well, but because gens get done extremely quickly, I still loss.
Sure you can argue that I should've just gone for the guy being the gen jocky, but that'd leave the other three to immediately hop on gens, hell the last gen got done specifically because I chased the gen jocky off that gen. You can say it all you want, but killers are weak. All the top killers require extensive amount of time to master to easily destroy survivors, and the weaker killers require even longer time to perform well (with the exception of spirit, played her like eight times and I kick ass with her). For the most part, if a player sucks at playing killer, then they're new to the game and they're also playing against new survivors, which for the most part, makes the killer win, because the survivors are messing up constantly.
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That isn't a fact. You'll do fine as killer most of the time if you're decent. I can usually get at least 2 (sometimes all 4) kills against a good 4 man SWF. I don't even usually play a high tier killer. That is just your opinion.
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I rarely play anymore. While the devs do make improvements it feels like for every 1 thing they get right they get 3 other things wrong. This is just my opinion but with some of the decisions being made I get the impression the devs are r20 survivor mains.
It's like they only really buff killer when the player base drops so low the survivors can't find a game.
The people who made this game were the ones who thought patch 1.9.2 was a QoL update. The one that made it super easy to flashlight save and pallet stun a killer during a pick up animation. It was damn near impossible to pick up someone if they were downed at a pallet or if someone else brought a flashlight. Anybody with a decent amount of playtime in this game could have told them that was a horrible idea. I'm not talking a few thousand hours, a mere few hundred would suffice. Fortunately they actually undid that one.
Who the #@$% thought MoM wasn't going to be broken when it came out?
They nerfed ruin without thinking how it could affect M1 killers. Then instead of admitting they didn't think it through, they nerf tool boxes the next patch to try to fix the damage they inflicted.
Billy is getting nerfed for no real reason.
Nurse is still buggy since her rework. I played her on Dead Dawg Salon the other night and I kept getting stuck on guard rails when I tried to blink. Even went through the floors when I wasn't trying too or couldn't go through the floors when I wanted too. It's been nearly a year since her rework and they show no signs of even acknowledging these problems. Meanwhile DS was bugged after one patch and they fixed it within a week.
DLC feels like it's eye candy to bring in fresh meat for the grinder. Every new killer that comes out has crappy perks and half thought out add ons. Seriously look at PH's add ons. Most of them have no real use and his perks do not feel game changing or even niche. The devs are afraid to add anything remotely strong because the entity forbid the survivors actually fear the killer.
MM is god awful and the ranking system is a joke. I don't need to go in detail about this subject.
Last is the community. No matter how you play, either side, there is always some ######### calling you toxic for doing this or that.
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I'm still around, but I'm casual. Ranking up used to be determined by the amount of points you got in a match and that's when I did mine. Killer cube was vomit, emblems is a liiiiittle better but that's not saying a lot. Most of my memories are of Hillbilly and Nurse being absolute terrors, and looking at them now...wew.
It's a different game ain't it?
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What devotion is considered old? I see some with devotion 27 like Cope
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Nah, like I said, objectively, killers are weak. Did I say you're gonna be constantly losing as killer? No I did not, also saying you can get 2 kills is like saying you died just before you could escape, doesn't matter, a close win is still a loss. I said any person can do well as killer, but that doesn't mean they don't have to sweat their ass off to do so, If the best survivors in the world faced off the best killer in the world, the survivors would every time. If you see a wraith or a clown in red ranks, you're gonna laugh your ass off as you bully them endlessly and make their experience extremely unfun. Some killers are weaker than others, but the fact that three survivors can always do whatever the hell they want while you're chasing one of them will always make killers weak.
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why are you here then? EVERY PACKAGE IS A PROMISE MADE, PORTER.
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Have you tried turning it off and on again?
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We'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think killers are weak.
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I agree. Red ranks were fun around late 2018/early 2019. Plenty of great players on both sides.
Now its just potatoes that have been boosted by swf and sprint burst vs tunneling freddys/spirits with NOED. It’s depressing.
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It's because we get to red ranks and then realize how unbalanced the game is there so we lose interest. That's the problem with strictly balancing the game around low ranks.
The same issues the game had 2 years ago are still generally the same issues it has today.
That said, I've still stuck around because it's the only real game in its genre.
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I mean, Behaviour is catering to new players and gives 2 shits about the vets. They impliment a battlepass and change the exclusives to give them to everyone but cant(wont) fix the oldest vets lost legacy items. Why would any more of us/them come back? I'm barely still here as is.
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I would probably go by hours instead seeing as Devotion itself is a relatively new feature. There are quite a few of us that had thousands of hours before Devotion even started for example.
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Vets in any game will eventually fizzle out. More so if the game is still standing on a rocky foundation after 4 years.
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this game is so anti vet its hard to want to play it as someone who understands all the killer mindgames, whether theres a chance to win a certain game based on the survivors as whatever killer youre playing as....ect. Theyve made it extremely unfun in the long run for killer players. once you have all the perks on every killer, theres simply nothing left to do but play the same exact game with the same exact tile layouts over and over. Wanna play a fun build you get stomped on by their perks. wanna play a weaker killer you get stomped on by their perks. when you win the community shames you and tries to take away your win every game! almost every game ive played 2 days ago i was called a camper/tunneler. Its nothing new, it just gets old, and the survivor community is the driving force in my opinion on what makes this game unfun
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Today I delivered two tons in a single delivery, plus two more tons across multiple deliveries and helped build a ton of roads. Porters need breaks too.
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I'm still playing after I started in December 2016, just currently taking a break since atm I am enjoying rainbow 6 seige.
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Oof.
On topic. Its clear that BHVR doesn't see any value in long-time players. They don't seem to listen to their fog whisperer playerbase and outright ignore most feedback given to them. No doubt there's more value to get new players into the game, who buy a bunch of DLCs and a few skins, before burning out and never touching the game again.
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It's because why would you want too at this point? Other games have dropped and people get bored of BHVR milking it for a cash cow instead of fixing the issues.
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I consider myself a killer main but I play both sides. I don't play solo anymore. That's how bad it's gotten for me. I only play survivor with friends. Not always a 4 man but I know enough that randoms suck. Especially since the ruin nerf and rank reset changes. A red survivors might not know how to even loop these days.
The other day my friends and I got into a 4 man swf and discord went down. We actually had to play the game as intended /gasp. It was funny. I was messing around with Q&Q and head on. It was huntress map and the killer was gf. 3 of us are on a gen and gf comes at us. I took a hit so they can finish the gen and I run into the cabin. I jump in a locker. Ghosty is chasing Bill who happens to run by my locker and I smack ghosty with it. The fact we did that without headsets made it historical.
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I feel like if your an actual good player at this game you should know by now its literally completely based on which killer and which situation. Also this isn't about if killers are weak or if survivors are strong. This isnt soley directed towards you i just tagged u to respond to the argument
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@LazyPayday I still remember the depip squad winning with 4 man escapes 97 times out of 100 to prove a point with only DS xD
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the game is broken at high levels because the devs insist on balancing it towards the middle ranks. Their monetization of the game revolves around you buying the game, buying a dlc or two, playing for a bit, buying a cosmetic or two, then leaving the game. It's not necessarily the wrong way to monetize a game, since it makes gobs of money, but it's not good for the long term health of the game.
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Yeah, when you can play your absolute best, making zero mistakes and still don't have a chance at winning, it tends to put players off.
As for their monetary strategy, it will work right up until there are no killers left, so rank 20s will be playing rank 1s, then the game will die.
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Dude if you can end chases in 30 seconds and still lose people that aint right garbage doesn't deserve to escape
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Have you tried putting it in rice
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Problem is mate all the veteran players have seen the bad teammates they get at red ranks so they create a swf with other veteran players.
Matchmaking on both sides is causing your problem.
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im still here.
and ill try my best to be a challenge for you to overcome ^^
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and instead of fixing MM. These devs are diverting resources to reworking a perfectly good killer.
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I'm on a break for a bit, ever since the second rift I've been getting more and more burnt out when the rift ends. I am not hopeful rift 4 will be any better, it seems the devs want to grind us into the ground.
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Forcing your player basis to play a lot during a specific time frame is never good.
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