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Legion: what am I doing wrong?
so I have started to put a LOT of time into legion, maxed out and unlocked every perk I had avaliable for them at this point, but I'm running into a wall. Specifically it really feels like the frenzy and deep wound effect is kinda pointless unless you are going to use it to get a quick and early hit on a survivor in a chase, and then tunnel them down.
The fact that they can just run forever away from you and that as long as they are mending the timer isn't going just never feels like its actually impacting them. Sure it buys you time, but if your chasing a survivor without the goal of hooking them, your just giving everyone else time. It feels counter productive, am I missing something?
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From my perspective, this only serves to waste survivors' time to heal themselves rather than repair generators.
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With the right perks, Legion can slow the game down tremendously. One of the best perks to use with Legion is thanatophobia. For every person that's injured it slows down the speed of survivors doing pretty much everything, which puts a big focus on players mending and healing themselves so that way they can repair generators at a normal speed. And for those that don't they well double up on a single generator which will cause discordance to go off, which is one of the best information perks in the game.
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Well you're playing probably one of the worsts killers in the game, in one of the worsts metas for Killers.
I recommend you to try to play for fun and not be obsessed with the results. Chasing as Legion is hard because you have to go without the frenzy and M1 againts loops and jungle gyms. I would recommend to not commit that much into chases and just create chaos in the game and farm some bloodpoints. If you don't care about ranks you'll be fine.
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Legion at this point has been reduced to being worse at what they do...
Deep Wounds at this point are a joke and only serve as a minor annoyance to both themselves and the survivors
the only way they do anything is if you chain 4-5 FF hits and catch a survivor mending/healing after
Their addins are among the worst in the game (next to Pigs). The only ones that "work" are FF Fatigue and FF duration (maybe)
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It is okay to feel these emotions young Legion.
You are feeling the frustration of a killer punished by their creator for the actions of a minority of the user base who enjoyed this wonderful, and top notch killer.
One day though, rest assured we shall have our return. Old debts shall be paid, old revenge will come to fruition and Legion will one day be freed from the shackles, and unleashed into the fog with a new fury that only downed survivors can satisfy.
One day Legion. One day
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Us Pig mains feel the same way...
Though I enjoy a "good" Legion match
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Don't think about the mending. The point is injury.
Keep them injured.
If they decide to forget about healing, you'll start running into one hit down meat bags ready to be hooked. If not, they're spending the game healing instead of gens.
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Legions feral frenzy is meant to be a tool to STALL and SPREAD DAMAGE to the game, not a tool to end chases fast. There are certain perk combos that make frenzy lethal in some very scenarios, but besides that, its perhaps the most harmless power in the game.
Legion is terrible on the 1v1, if you are using frenzy to hit someone, then immediately getting out of it, you are playing them very, very wrong.
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5:00
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One of the worst metas for killers? Killer has literally never been easier to play.
As for the OP it will take you time to find what works for you with Legion. I'd suggest checking out Otz on YouTube. He made a guide with what he feels is the best builds for every killer. That might help you out. Otherwise just keep practicing and experimenting.
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If you're playing as Frank...that's your first mistake.
Pick Susie. While waiting for a match to start, listen to some siouxsie and the banshees.
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Never been easier to play? Can somehow develop that line?
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You need to spread damage as Legion. The first survivor you find you should Frenzy hit then try to chain as many as you can. Of course this is circumstantial, sometimes you won't get someone else, but you want to go for others as much as possible.
Strong build helps too. Thana and Blood Echo are good on Legion because it forces survivors to heal often which is pointless with how easy you get the first hit. Either they stay injured and lose time, or heal and waste time. I also use Ruin because you force survivors off gens a lot as Legion.
I generally go by the rule that if I hit a survivor and decide to chase them, if they lead me on a chase long enough to get my power back and then miss a normal swing, I will just Frenzy hit them and look for someone else instead of wasting more time. Again, circumstantial but good habit to do when you can.
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Pallet dead zones on every map.
Insta heals gone.
Toolboxes gutted.
Infinite loops and near infinite loops gone.
Balanced Landing nerfed.
Exhaustion perks in general were nerfed.
Healing time nerfed.
And many more survivor nerfs over the years. Along with various killer buffs. None of which are changes I really disagree with. But they have made killer alot easier than it used to be.
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That doesn't make playing Killer easier than ever. Both sides got some nerfs.
Some of the things you mentioned were so strong but there was no dead hard, borrowed time plus decisive strike in 4 survivors at same time.
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Probably the biggest mistake you can make with legion is stacking too many slowdown perks instead of chase perks. Thanta / dying light / sloppy butcher / pop goes / etc will mean nothing if you can't down people in a reasonable amount of time. Their effect is honestly minimal anyways, compared to the pressure created by fast downs.
I'd try him/her with both enduring and bamboozle, assuming you know the tiles somewhat. There are tons of safe and un-mindgameable loops in DBD that against good survivors will basically force you to eat a pallet as an M1 killer, which is all you are after the first hit. See which one you like more and work from there, also try out brutal stength.
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I hate to sound so negative, but what you're doing wrong is playing Legion. The issues you're describing are a consequence of Legion's ability design.
I really like Legion, but their ability is awful. Much like Pig (another killer I love, but always get frustrated playing), their ability is just a stall mechanism that feels like it never has the impact it should.
But even worse for Legion, mistakes and misplays with it are so heavily punished that it feels like you're fighting against your own kit half the time. Imagine that every possible mistake you could make is akin to a billy saw clip, but the difference is Legion's ability can't down survivors lol.
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your playing legion thats what your doing wrong, play someone like huntress or oni theyre way better
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Feral Frenzy is a means of chain attacking survivors to keep them injured while occupying their precious repair time briefly with the Deep Wound status effect. The cooldown of the ability is HEAVILY exaggerated by the community, it is not that bad at all. With certain add-on and perk combinations, you can be in a dominant state for a majority of your trials.
The only thing that I would say is really bad is the time of Deep Wound. The countdown is lengthy enough that survivors can commit to gens until the Deep Wound timer falls too low. The devs should decrease the length of time the bleed out triggers, making Deep Wound more of a threat.
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What's the combo that makes frenzy lethal?
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I'm new to Legion too, I never lost a match with him, no matter what, if I'm doing wrong, with my thana+dying light, the gens are soooo long to compete.
Legion is really strong with the good perks and add-ons, I use the one who make feral frenzy longer, I can hit 3 or 4 survivor easily and activate my perks. Then you just have to M1.
I think it's a realllly strong killer, like the Oni, you have to hurt survivor once, then you can godmode them and end a match soo quickly.
For me Legion is a B+ tier killer.
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I recommend watching OTZ's VODs from when he was practicing Legion. He curently has a 52 4 kill streak on Legion (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PVh8RE3uy88YjdOYPA0Xi35b8ReCDteHZo0lFYKw2HI/edit#gid=0). To be good at Legion, you need to be good at looping and mindgaming.
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That was beautiful.
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Enduring + Spirit Fury. Hit a survivor with frenzy just as he is about to drop the pallet, get stunned and now you have an easy down.
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"LEGION: WHAT AM I DOING WRONG?"
Playing Legion :/
he's terribly unfun to play against, underwhelming, and very simplistic in playstyle. He gets stale to play quickly and is just in general unfun
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"he's terribly unfun to play against"
You say that as if survivors care how fun something is for killers.
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in any game, balance is important, but it can't be at the cost of fun. If a character in a game had an average win delta of 1, meaning the character wins an equal amount of times as they are losing, that character is balanced and ideal from a dev standpoint. Now if this balanced killer is terribly boring to play as, making them consistent but not enjoyable, while being terribly frustrating to play against, without being particularly hard to do so, then none of the player base enjoys them. Billy was a great example of a good, balanced killer, who was enjoyed by both sides. He was strong and incredibly fun to play, but had a lot of counterplay. This is why people are so upset by his nerfs, because he was a high tier killer enjoyed by both sides. Legion on the otherhand, is at best mid tier, who is incredibly unfun to play against, and really boring to play as (this is coming from a killer main). Its just not great for the longevity of a game to encourage the use of unfun mechanics
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What you doing wrong? You playing Legion. LOL
Just joking. Legion is funny as hell to play and he is not that week. Keep on playing and learning and read tips for his gameplay.
Watching streamers can be good, but you may be better reading the forums and reddit.
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The point with legiin is to spread pressymure and keep everyone injured. This in theory cuts your chase time in half. If youre able to use FF effectively and consistently and then learn tge best times to end FF to initiate chase youll do pretty good. Also dont be afraid to use FF to get across tge map quicker lije billys chainsaw, ive saved plenty of gens that way.
What build and addons you running?
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DH, BT, and DS did exist at those times. They were, with the possible exception of DS, even stronger. By definition anything that nerfs survivors will buff killers. Getting downs is significantly easier now as a result of many of these nerfs. Which in turn makes killer easier to play.
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The ff duratiin + either green or yellow pin is actually really good, especially if youre running thanta. I run that combo a lot. Double duration is also good. That one ultra that breaks pallets isnt bad either.
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A posting that hits right into my heart <3.
To the thread starter: Understand the Legion today as a fast m1 killer and play him as this and most of the matches will be ok with 1-3 kills.
Forget dw. It distracts you more from actual killing someone, as it helps by this task. Use the killersight to find survivors and after you have found them, m1 them on the same way, as you do it already with so many other killers.
That means, you have to be good in m1 mindgames, but that is imo not really hard. All what is needed, is few weeks pratice.
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Cool
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I think hes unfun too. He isn't a killer you can get chased by. I play survivor for chase interaction which legion doesn't have. Thats most likely what they meant.
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The problem with the addon that breaks pallets is that it extends your terror radius to the whole map, making the heartbeat ping from survivors useless because you cant tellif they are two rooms away or a map away.
The build I tend to run is BBQ and Chilli, Ruin, Surveilance, and then the last one I dont really have something fixed dont know whats good.
I find her addons to be kind of weak all together, nothing really feels helpful other then duration and cooldown reduction for FF.
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