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Tired of fellow Survivors leaving me to die for Hatch
I'm level 15 and really haven't even begun to get into the meta of this game, so correct me if I'm wrong in thinking that the Hatch is a useless addition to this game. I could understand a situation where the killer is camping both gates, and the last survivor has no chance to open the gates without dying but I really think there is a better solution than the hatch. I am really tired of being in a 2v1 situation with one generator left and having my ally completely abandon objectives and me to go search for the hatch. Essentially, they are banking on me to die so they can win - that to me is the equivalent of grieving. I don't want to report them for this though, because the game developers have completely incentivized this Hatch camping. I really don't blame them - I always assume until proven otherwise that my allies are idiots so its fair for them to do the same. Why should they work on a difficult 2v1 and risk losing when they could just as easily camp the Hatch and wait for the inevitable death of their ally who is actually playing? Stop giving people reason to lame their team.
Also buff killers.
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Endgame os something they are currently working on.1
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The endgame has been iffy for a while now. The devs mentioned that they're working on it.
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nice try but that buff killers at the end gave away your true intentions lil sneaky main killer3
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The hatch is rather situational. In your case, it seemed like the other survivor believed they and you were both going to die if they tried rescuing you, so they decided it was better for the killer to kill 3 survivors rather than all 4. The hatch is not a useless addition, because sometimes survivors find themselves up the creek without a paddle so to speak, and the hatch is there so that at least one of them can escape, but even that doesn't always happen. Sometimes it's one person doing all of the generators, and their 3 teammates are off getting killed by the killer. Should they be denied the chance to escape when they clearly earned it? The hatch does need to be changed up a bit, and should require players do a certain amount of things in order to access the hatch, maybe they have to get at least 2 bronze emblems or something like that for them to interact with the hatch. I do agree with making the hatch harder to access (easy for those who actually try to play), but disagree with removing the hatch all together. In a lot of instances, altruism is what gets survivors killed.
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no offense you're level 15 you have no right to give any opinion on what's should go on in the game.
btw you probably playing with noobs . lower rank games we just loop the killer all game and decide who will get the hatch stand off0 -
Best thing to do is wait for it to be just you and another left, look around for hatch if it spawned, if not get somewhere safe.
When the other guy gets hit and escapes, wave at him to come let you heal him. Instead, fail a skill check and then run from him.
You could try using pebble as well.
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It would be nice to have it so that there are prerequisites to being able to open the hatch other than 2 gens being completed. I have no idea what they could be but maybe before you have met the criteria to open the hatch the hatch is closed and silent until it is opened. This way it will be harder for both parties to find it and may reduce hatch camping? Not sure just thought of this on the fly.
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Every week we got a thread like this:
""""new"""" forum member says he's """"new"""" to the game and complains about something related to survivors. I wonder who is the veteran forum member behind these new accounts.1 -
@Vietfox said:
Every week we got a thread like this:
""""new"""" forum member says he's """"new"""" to the game and complains about something related to survivors. I wonder who is the veteran forum member behind these new accounts.Yes, it couldn't be that there are real problems. Obviously it's a massive conspiracy.
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God, this forum really likes to make up unofficial game rules.
I'm not obligated to try and save you. If I decide a) I can't be bothered, or b) it's too dangerous, then just hurry up and die, please.
And usually, in your situation, I'll kill myself on the hook if I judge that it gives the last remaining survivor a better shot at escaping.
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@OrionOrion said:@Vietfox said:
Every week we got a thread like this:
""""new"""" forum member says he's """"new"""" to the game and complains about something related to survivors. I wonder who is the veteran forum member behind these new accounts.Yes, it couldn't be that there are real problems. Obviously it's a massive conspiracy.
I wouldnt call the hatch a problem. I've been playing as a killer lately, from rank 20 to 6 because i started over in ps4, and only 1 could get the hatch because i slugged the last 2 and forgot to equip deerstalker. The rest of them didnt make it neither they dced to give the hatch to the last survivor.
About the conspiracy thing, it wouldnt be the first time someone creates new accounts for this purpose, i've seen it in other forums and sometimes it's easy to detect by the way they talk. And i'm not even going to talk about when op said "also buff killers" xD0 -
@Vietfox said:
I wouldnt call the hatch a problem. I've been playing as a killer lately, from rank 20 to 6 because i started over in ps4, and only 1 could get the hatch because i slugged the last 2 and forgot to equip deerstalker. The rest of them didnt make it neither they dced to give the hatch to the last survivor.
About the conspiracy thing, it wouldnt be the first time someone creates new accounts for this purpose, i've seen it in other forums and sometimes it's easy to detect by the way they talk. And i'm not even going to talk about when op said "also buff killers" xDBut you are trying to put down the OP and other complaints by claiming they're fake. Are you American, by any chance?
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@OrionOrion said:@Vietfox said:
I wouldnt call the hatch a problem. I've been playing as a killer lately, from rank 20 to 6 because i started over in ps4, and only 1 could get the hatch because i slugged the last 2 and forgot to equip deerstalker. The rest of them didnt make it neither they dced to give the hatch to the last survivor.
About the conspiracy thing, it wouldnt be the first time someone creates new accounts for this purpose, i've seen it in other forums and sometimes it's easy to detect by the way they talk. And i'm not even going to talk about when op said "also buff killers" xDBut you are trying to put down the OP and other complaints by claiming they're fake. Are you American, by any chance?
No, i'm not (why? XD)
Ofc i might be wrong, but it's so damn suspicious.0 -
@Eight said:
God, this forum really likes to make up unofficial game rules.I'm not obligated to try and save you. If I decide a) I can't be bothered, or b) it's too dangerous, then just hurry up and die, please.
And usually, in your situation, I'll kill myself on the hook if I judge that it gives the last remaining survivor a better shot at escaping.
This.
Where's written that I need to collaborate with team mates and save them?
What about if for me they are just resources to use to reach my goal? I don't care if you are dying and I'm not obliged to save you, on the contrary, please die fast so I can get my hatch.
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@2BadWaluigiTime I think you got it wrong. As long as there are 3-4 survivors alive, you are a team, working together to escape. When there's only two of you left, and there's still 1-2 generators to repair, then you're competing: who dies first? Especially against a Billy or Nurse, or simply when you got three gens in a bunch, there's little chance you survive if you're too eager to have that last one done.
Just be more stealthy than the other guy, and you'll get out. Life is a cold hearted ######### so you gotta be one too.0 -
@Vietfox said:
No, i'm not (why? XD)
Ofc i might be wrong, but it's so damn suspicious.Because it sounds like typical Trump rhetoric - any time someone says something negative, claim it's fake news.
Why is it suspicious that people register on an official forum to complain? That's the main reason why people register, to complain about a product.0 -
i stopped reading here2BadWaluigiTime said:I'm level 15 and really haven't even begun to get into the meta of this game, but im going to make a longwinded post about this game anyways
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And now you are assuming all americans are like Trump?Orion said:@Vietfox said:
No, i'm not (why? XD)
Ofc i might be wrong, but it's so damn suspicious.Because it sounds like typical Trump rhetoric - any time someone says something negative, claim it's fake news.
Why is it suspicious that people register on an official forum to complain? That's the main reason why people register, to complain about a product.
It's suspicious because talks the same way as other new members i've seen.
About the fake news, if u say that because of that "survivors get to choose the killer" thread where i participated u need to understand that no one should trust an edited video, especially in the internet, no matter who u side. I think i dont need to explain internet is full of lies.0 -
@Vietfox said:
And now you are assuming all americans are like Trump?
It's suspicious because talks the same way as other new members i've seen.
About the fake news, if u say that because of that "survivors get to choose the killer" thread where i participated u need to understand that no one should trust an edited video, especially in the internet, no matter who u side. I think i dont need to explain internet is full of lies.I'm assuming roughly 50% are. They did elect him, you know. A president reflects the majority of the people's opinions and personalities, or at least they should, in a democracy.
Unless members use weird expressions, everyone who has the same skill level in the English language will speak in more or less the same manner, consistent with their level of understanding. That's how language works.1 -
@Vietfox said:
@Giche @Orion
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/14/us-election-2016-voter-turnout-fell-to-58-per-cent-this-year-est/That being said, we are derailing the main topic, again xD
46,1 against 48,2 % of popular vote.
2,1% of difference.
Yay so huge /s
That basically that nearly half the american population voted for this :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-G15TPoWQE
/end off topic.
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@GicheGiche said:> @Vietfox said:
@Giche @Orion
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/14/us-election-2016-voter-turnout-fell-to-58-per-cent-this-year-est/That being said, we are derailing the main topic, again xD
46,1 against 48,2 % of popular vote.
2,1% of difference.
Yay so huge /s
That basically that nearly half the american population voted for this :
/end off topic.
U are always missing what people try to tell u, right?
I was talking about the people who didn't vote.
I give u back ur memes.0 -
Let's lock the hatch based on Lightbringer. If you didn't help fix the generators you're not getting in. That will encourage the hatch campers to try and open the gates.CoolAKn said:The hatch is rather situational. In your case, it seemed like the other survivor believed they and you were both going to die if they tried rescuing you, so they decided it was better for the killer to kill 3 survivors rather than all 4. The hatch is not a useless addition, because sometimes survivors find themselves up the creek without a paddle so to speak, and the hatch is there so that at least one of them can escape, but even that doesn't always happen. Sometimes it's one person doing all of the generators, and their 3 teammates are off getting killed by the killer. Should they be denied the chance to escape when they clearly earned it? The hatch does need to be changed up a bit, and should require players do a certain amount of things in order to access the hatch, maybe they have to get at least 2 bronze emblems or something like that for them to interact with the hatch. I do agree with making the hatch harder to access (easy for those who actually try to play), but disagree with removing the hatch all together. In a lot of instances, altruism is what gets survivors killed.
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I apologize for bringing up Trump, now please stay on topic.
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Why peoples didn't moved their ass when they heard that this :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-G15TPoWQEWould potentially be their next president ?
I'm gonna stop this right here, it's like beating a dead horse.
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'Survive Together… Or Not - Survivors can either cooperate with the others or be selfish. Your chance of survival will vary depending on whether you work together as a team or if you go at it alone. Will you be able to outwit the Killer and escape their Killing Ground?'
So, is leaving your teammate to die for the hatch a D move ? Yes it is
Grants an escape ? Yes it does
irl i don't think you'd go to save a random stranger by putting yourself in death's way6 -
I remember some fellow survivors getting salty as they were all on hooks at the end of the game, the killer had NOED and I just left through the exit gate.... What exactly was I supposed to do?
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@GicheGiche said:Why peoples didn't moved their ass when they heard that this :
Would potentially be their next president ?
I'm gonna stop this right here, it's like beating a dead horse.
Because the ones who didnt vote for trump (at least) expected him to be elected maybe? (just like brexit) If u didn't realized it was a shock for everyone u weren't paying attention to the news.
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@PigNRun said:
Endgame os something they are currently working on."soon"
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Hurry up and die already I'm getting sleepy in here.
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