Open Discussion: Alert will become meta soon

interesting point about breakable walls. though I have to question your definition of "soon" since we know BHVR's definition is not exactly impressive. hell, that window at ironworks just got fixed after about 4 years. and they could have added a breakable wall there, but havent.

they could also add a breakable wall at the shack in every level since it's always the same asset, but that hasn't happened.

Alert>Windows of Opportunity, but Windows of Opportunity is good for newbs, or casuals. The top perks for survivors are those which either boost repair speed (gtfo speed) or survivability in chase. If you can survive chases longer, you can save pallets and win time. So, if its only info that you need, info alone doesnt significantly change the chance to escape good killers. Exception is perk Distortion. It doesnt increase repair speeds, but it allow to dodge BBQ and keep killer guessing where survivors are. IMO, its the best thing for genrush. The big question for me is - why Distortion is not meta? :^)

I don’t think it will ever be truly meta, but it’ll probably see more use in solo queue once people realise its uses. Info perks are more useful for solos and Alert does give a lot of nice info.

I don't see myself trading kindred for it, but good point

Why use alert when you can use 4 second-chance perks? Unfortunately Alert will be far away from the meta, even after the update.

Idk if it will be "meta" but it will likely become off meta, as it is very much almost at the peak of being. Ie like for example prove thyself, or soul guard/for the people.

Its never going to be taking the place of unbreakable/decisive strike for a lot of people as an example (purely because people both love those perks, and unless they were nerfed into the basement and back i don't know if people would even want to stop using them then because of what they do)

But what it does do is hugely beneficial. its to the same degree as spine chill, which you see every 4-5 builds. the more pallets/walls/gens there are to break the more info it gives. and its incredibly good at giving info even in a chase, as it stops the killer from fake breaking a pallet.

The one bad thing with alert though no matter how good it is, is that i always tend to just... forget about it for some reason? like its an amazing perk even now, and i accidentally ran it again during the event whilst crown collecting due to having it on other survivors and like god was it good? but i forget about it in tandem for my other preferred builds which are uber-over heal, hook bomb and survive for bp, and ultimate slug build etc. Even when i typically use killer detection perks i'll pop in OoO or spinechill instead, because alerts never at the forefront of my mind which is ironic considering its name. Its an amazing perk, and i love it a lot more then i give it credit for, but god do i forget it exists?

Doubtful. Stealth killers completely avoid it, Ghost Face is played commonly enough and there are enough instances of oblivious and undetectable that I see no use in using it. It was good before they started with that mess to nerf OoO but now Spine Chill is infinitely better unless you purely want to know where not to lead the killer during the instance there is potentially aura reading available.

Want to add that Spine Chill is just a "Yes" or "No" statement and Alert gives aura reading, which is many times more useful than Spine Chill.

Both are equivalents to each other, it just depends on your playstyle! 🙂

I honestly don't see it rising that highly in popularity with the amount of Undetectable or even Oblivious available to killers today. If stealth killers especially were to rise in response to Alert, then that would nullify the perk's existence. But this is also provided that killers chose to actually adapt to survivor perk choices for once, rather than sticking with older ideas.

Or they will even start using more perks like Trail of Torment to disguise themselves for a short while.

The most likely option though, is that they will complain about the information it gives and SWF who will also largely ignore the perk in favour of having their comms communicate the position of the killer, or limit themselves to one person using the perk if they really care that much about team building.

i honestly don’t think alert will ever be meta as long as object is in the game.. object just does more in terms of information at the expense of giving off ur location which isn’t much of a con since u should be a good looper to begin with (if using object). also object can mesh with perks like off the radar or sole survivor.. alert doesn’t mesh with anything on a consistent basis if u ask me.