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Certain Killers Shouldn't Be Able To Run Certain Perks/Combos
I mean come on. Do I really need to say anything else? Some examples:
- Stridor Spirit
- Pop Freddy
- Spirit Fury/Enduring Billy
- Infectious Fright Nurse
Theres a few more I can't think of off the top of my head, but perks like this on these killers is quite literally so unfun. And before anyone comes for my neck I've played about 3k hours on PC of both sides and these perks are quite literally so busted on these killers it's insane. And, I won't reply to anyone doing any whataboutism's on this thread.
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People are flipping out at me about survivor sided things so I'll list a few survivor perks I believe could use some adjustment as well
- Ds Unbreakable. Obvious
- Unbreakable Soul guard, sort of uncommon right now but i've played against it, very annoying
- vault build (resilience spine chill) i personally think theres no issue with it, but some people might not like it
- prove thyself better together, need i say more
EDIT 2:
I'm seeing a lot of "well this perk is totally fine" and i didn't make myself very clear in saying that i don't want the PERKS nerfed persay, I want the killers running them to be tuned a little bit so that these perks aren't as powerful as they can be on these specific killers. AKA fix the core base mechanics of the game. Perks are fine on their own.
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yeah god forbid i say something about killer that needs to be adjusted. insane.
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Everything about this should be wholly, completely, and totally disregarded.
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what? because i'm saying something about killer is busted when it literally is? tell me a stridor spirit has counterplay
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Wut.
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boop the snoot
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A strider Spirit has counterplay.
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dude 90% of these forums are nothing but killer mains complaining about survivor perks, why is it bad that i'm saying i personally believe these things about killer are annoying to play against and borderline unfun?
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Ok so if we put it that way survivors shouldn't use DH, DS, adrenaline and other meta perks.
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OH is that so? please explain then
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i said no whataboutisms, but if you'd like me to explain how these perks dont even remotely compare to these perks i mentioned on these specific killers, then i can
adrenaline! five seconds use, five second speed boost AT ENDGAME. again. let me repeat that and break it down. a useless perk all game.
deadhard! pretty annoying all admit but its so easy to counter and that perk barely works its a joke
ds! slug. literally slug. or just dont tunnel. that easy. or! eat the ds and it's useless the rest of the game
anything else?
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Change your play style.
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Boop the damn snoot!
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that isn't an explanation. i want a play by play. tell me what to do to counter it.
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noed isn't even worth complaining about thats so dumb, but on the same account theres someone literally in this thread saying we should remove survivor meta perks so
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Figure it out for yourself. There's plenty of video out there of people doing it. If you aren't smart enough or skilled enough to do something other than using pallet loops as a crutch you'll never beat high tier killers.
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Yes, I begin to doubt that you have around 3k hours.
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so you personally don't know how to do it. kk. if you can't even explain it to me then as far as im concerned there is no counter
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because i'm making valid points? do you have any counter argument
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stridor spirit is pretty dumb IMO
Pop Freddy - work separate generators as he can only pop one
Spirit Fury/Enduring - Throw done pallets early and don't be greedy with them
Infectious Fright - spread out. If you suspect they have it, you can also use lockers (or calm spirit) while in terror radius as someone is within 1 tap.
Most of these problems are solved when survivors don't group up.
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and i completely agree with you on that! i'm glad you brought reasonable counters to my points, however i will say that it becomes an issue with idiotic teammates
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of course but i'm not talking about the other side rn
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i don't see the need to mention the other side when i'm talking about one side specifically, what would i gain from that
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You're the one that came in here 😭😭😭 about about killer/perk combos being too tough for you. My advice stands. Do some research and learn to change your play style for different killers. If you want to take the childish stance of believing something doesn't exist unless someone holds your hand and walks you through a process which literally changes depending on all of the circumstances then I'll continue to regard this post as nothing more than a mediocre survivor demanding the game be changed to suit his average skill level.
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no dude, since you claim to know a counter i want you to tell me, because i'm not gonna go out my way to look it up when you seem to know so much yourself. so, until you can explain it, i'm going to assume you don't know what you're talking about
you also said "pallet loops as a crutch" so you told me all i need to know about your stances of this game on the killer side
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We can do this if survivors can't pair certain perks together either.
Object with everything else.
Second Chance perks with other second chance perks
insert more examples here.
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The post of an entitled survivor main who probably rocks DS, BT, Unbreakable and Deadhard.
But killers shouldn't have any synergy. Screw that nonsense.
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Not here to interrupt your cry session, just wanted to put in a lil reminder that a big part of killer fun, especially with new chapter perks, is to find and work out a build that gels well with a killer power or works in a way that helps us be more satisfied with our kill.
Those perk/killer combos didn’t come out of thin air. Somebody had to think of it, test it, then add more to the build until it felt like a strong build. Just because somebody worked out a small benefit through experimentation and effort doesn’t mean you should then punish the build because it became to meta.
Next you going to ask that Pop and BBQ cannot be together, sloppy and nurses, Surveillance and Ruin.
Even weak perks can see strong in the hands of certain killers and that makes finding and creating those builds more fun. Nothing you mentioned could break the game or make it impossible to win, it just would make survivor life a little bit easier which is all your after.
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i run hope, iron will, we'll make it a borrowed actually
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i'm not crying. i think those perk combos are completely fine. certain perks on specific killers are boring to play against. you can't tell me you have the best and most fun game in the world against a stridor spirit
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i said no whataboutisms so im not arguing with you
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Okay, sure. You shouldn't be able to run anything that synergizes with your playstyle. See how ridiculous that sounds?
To add to that, SWF's shouldn't be allowed to run things like borrowed time, We'll make it, Deliverance, DS etc. if killers can't run perks that synergize with their power.
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I understand where you're coming from but I'd rather have their base mechanics looked at rather than outright denying synergy between killers and their perks. I agree that both Spirit's and Freddy's kit is overtuned. However, Billy is already going to be gutted and infectious nurse has counterplay.
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You replied.
I win.
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My stance is it's too easy for survivors to rank up and believe they're good at the game because 70% of the killer roster can be countered by running a loop and throwing a pallet. The remaining 30% require a different skill set and play style. Actually good survivors recognize this and make the adjustments. Mediocre survivors complain about "LaCk oF cOuNtErPlAy" and call everything boring. They follow that up with demands the game be changed for them. You unwillingness to put forth the effort to watch some game video and learn what might work for you shows you have that mindset. What's more baffling is you expect the devs to go through the effort of changing the game for you when you outright refuse to put any effort into researching and playing better.
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If survivors couldnt use ds killers would hard tunnel deny that right now.
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So basically "No counter arguments for why my idea is ludicrous on multiple levels, because I can't defend it due to me knowing it's terrible"
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thats an incredibly good way to put it and i fully agree with what you're saying
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You said the only defense survivors have is a crutch? You trolling right?
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You need to play survivor more before you share your opinion.
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No I don't.
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do you not realize that my perks are totally useless for the majority of the game? hope is the closest to a game changer and its literally only active for 120 at endgame, under the assumption i even make it to endgame.
swf is a whole nother argument on its own and thats often used as a trump card in these forums so im not gonna argue that with you
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How can you form an opinion on one side without being even remotely good or putting in a decent amount of hours?
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i'm not arguing whataboutisms because theres no point in trying to compare two totally different sides. killer and survivor play two totally different ways and aren't even remotely comparable. its the same thing with keys and moris. sure they carry the same weight but they aren't the same and i'm not arguing them because theres no argument to be made
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No wonder so many people say that the DBD fanbase is so freaking toxic. Hazerino, you need to chill out a bit. Everyone here does, honestly. Not every match is gonna make you want to delete the game. Remember that this is literally just a game. I know how that sounds to hear because I freaking love playing DBD but it's just a game for enjoyment - not training for the Olympics. I would get if you were this mad about paying for content on the game and never receiving it or something... but raging over killers using good synergy perks? It's literally the main aspect of customization in the game.
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its an issue of its boring to play against killers that run these things. its unfun and not because im losing. its so easy to deny a survivor a game. personally, a few people have given me advice on how to deal with these things and i've taken it! same with me giving advice to people complaining about survivor perks
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I have nearly 4200 hours in game. More than half of it is survivor. Every character, survivor and killer, P3'd with all perks.
It's a stupid idea.
There, how's that for a valid opinion? Tell me a way my opinion isn't valid, even though it's not an opinion, it's just common sense.
What you're doing is coming in here and presenting an EXTREMELY one sided argument, and literally saying "If you don't agree, I'm not acknowledging you". Knock it the heck off. This is a DISCUSSION forum. If you don't want counterpoints and differing opinions, this isn't a good place for you.
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Through the powers of observation and analysis of 2500 hours of gameplay against survivors of all skill levels.
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observing and playing are two different things
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Wasnt even talking about you but alright.
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