Honest question to survivors
Do you prefer it when the killer deranks via afking or via DCing?
And if the killer deranks via afking, will you troll him and hold him hostage to farm points and tbagg instead of just doing gens and leave the game?
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I hate killers DCing. Too often I loose offerings which were too special to be wasted like that.
How can you troll a killer who is AFK? tbag as much you want but he might be drinking a beer watching Southpark.
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@Cass said:
I hate killers DCing. Too often I loose offerings which were too special to be wasted like that.How can you troll a killer who is AFK? tbag as much you want but he might be drinking a beer watching Southpark.
The more you tbagg and flashligth click at him, the longer the game takes and the longer deranking takes.
I am not gonna spend more time deranking than actually playing the game
Right now in more than half of the games I was being hold hostage, seems I will do it with DCing just like certain fog streamers do it too
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I didn't actually know killers AFKing to de-rank was a thing. I would prefer it to DCing however if I only do generators and leave there's a chance I might depip so I usually chill out near the killer/maybe blind them once so I can get a few more BP.
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DC is anathema. Should be punished by castration.
Being afk is almost as bad. If I have 30 minutes to play some games, I don't want to run around doing gens without any excitement, like it was some tutorial.
But what do you mean "trolling killer"? You can't "troll" an afk player...All this depipping bs is ridiculous anyway. Just play your bloody game.
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AFK is preferred because you can farm easy points.
Some killers afk derank because they don't want to risk a disconnect ban.
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If you're gonna de-rank either way, the afk route is the lesser of two evils. While it won't let survivors get the full use out of all offerings (White Ward, Oak, etc.) The free time gives them a chance to get a refund of sorts.
As for what killer to use, I recommend Doctor as you can just stay in treatment mode and act as an Objective BP fountain. This will Max their BP sooner and get them to leave faster.0 -
@George_Soros said:
DC is anathema. Should be punished by castration.
Being afk is almost as bad. If I have 30 minutes to play some games, I don't want to run around doing gens without any excitement, like it was some tutorial.
But what do you mean "trolling killer"? You can't "troll" an afk player...All this depipping bs is ridiculous anyway. Just play your bloody game.
Queue times are ridiculous at rank 1 and the unbalance is outrageous. I dont play killer just to pull my hair out after a 4 min genrush where I cant even get to use my moris etc.
You cant troll an afk killer? Tell that the survivors that tbagg in front of me for ages, yes even aftre 30 mins when I come back they still tbagg in front of me.
If the devs would balance their bloody game and make all killers viable, not only nurse, then I will be a competitive player as I usually am in multiplayer games, but the current state of the game makes this impossible sadly
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@Peasant said:
If you're gonna de-rank either way, the afk route is the lesser of two evils. While it won't let survivors get the full use out of all offerings (White Ward, Oak, etc.) The free time gives them a chance to get a refund of sorts.As for what killer to use, I recommend Doctor as you can just stay in treatment mode and act as an Objective BP fountain. This will Max their BP sooner and get them to leave faster.
Thats interesting, havent thought of that.
Actually I wanted to buy freddy just to derank with him, but the sale is over now... xD
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
You cant troll an afk killer? Tell that the survivors that tbagg in front of me for ages, yes even aftre 30 mins when I come back they still tbagg in front of me.Agreed.
Make escape points etc. reduce for every couple of seconds you spend in the game after a door is open? Want to play games / grief me, fine, but it'll cost you BP.
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Have you considered playing the game and then DCing at the end when they escape / are going to escape? I think that's the fairest way to de-rank for everyone involved.
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@George_Soros said:
DC is anathema. Should be punished by castration.
Being afk is almost as bad. If I have 30 minutes to play some games, I don't want to run around doing gens without any excitement, like it was some tutorial.
But what do you mean "trolling killer"? You can't "troll" an afk player...All this depipping bs is ridiculous anyway. Just play your bloody game.
Queue times are ridiculous at rank 1 and the unbalance is outrageous. I dont play killer just to pull my hair out after a 4 min genrush where I cant even get to use my moris etc.
You cant troll an afk killer? Tell that the survivors that tbagg in front of me for ages, yes even aftre 30 mins when I come back they still tbagg in front of me.
If the devs would balance their bloody game and make all killers viable, not only nurse, then I will be a competitive player as I usually am in multiplayer games, but the current state of the game makes this impossible sadly
Then you're not afk anymore - how about firing up your chainsaw and making some gaping chest wounds? But more importantly, if rank 1 games are that harrowing, and killers are unviable, then you should be able to derank simply by playing, right? If as you say, the deck is so stacked against killers you'd be down at rank 10 again in no time.
It's so bizarre to argue about it, but it's just like that: you play well, you rank up. Then you're stuck with players who are good. Challenge. Enjoy it. Just please please don't waste other people's time by DC-ing or being afk.5 -
I rather have the killer to stay ingame, so that I can earn some extra bloodpoints. I would probably stick around for a few minutes to find totems, open chests, etc. Then I'd just leave.
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@UncannyLuck said:
Have you considered playing the game and then DCing at the end when they escape / are going to escape? I think that's the fairest way to de-rank for everyone involved.Not really, that just makes it seem like you rage quit. That behavior creates a slew of nasty comments from survivors. Yet, strangely enough, it's a-okay when survivors/streamers do it.
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I mean, you know you're not rage quitting so just close out of the match before they make the comments?
Not that it's appropriate to make the comments but you can't control what other people do.0 -
@UncannyLuck said:
Have you considered playing the game and then DCing at the end when they escape / are going to escape? I think that's the fairest way to de-rank for everyone involved.So I use addons to play normally and then DC and dont get any BP?
Seems like a really bad idea.And you have to realize that I derank in order not to get bullied, playing would defeat this purpose
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@George_Soros said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@George_Soros said:
DC is anathema. Should be punished by castration.
Being afk is almost as bad. If I have 30 minutes to play some games, I don't want to run around doing gens without any excitement, like it was some tutorial.
But what do you mean "trolling killer"? You can't "troll" an afk player...All this depipping bs is ridiculous anyway. Just play your bloody game.
Queue times are ridiculous at rank 1 and the unbalance is outrageous. I dont play killer just to pull my hair out after a 4 min genrush where I cant even get to use my moris etc.
You cant troll an afk killer? Tell that the survivors that tbagg in front of me for ages, yes even aftre 30 mins when I come back they still tbagg in front of me.
If the devs would balance their bloody game and make all killers viable, not only nurse, then I will be a competitive player as I usually am in multiplayer games, but the current state of the game makes this impossible sadly
Then you're not afk anymore - how about firing up your chainsaw and making some gaping chest wounds? But more importantly, if rank 1 games are that harrowing, and killers are unviable, then you should be able to derank simply by playing, right? If as you say, the deck is so stacked against killers you'd be down at rank 10 again in no time.
It's so bizarre to argue about it, but it's just like that: you play well, you rank up. Then you're stuck with players who are good. Challenge. Enjoy it. Just please please don't waste other people's time by DC-ing or being afk.AFK = away from keyboard, aka not moving
Yes, there are some very special survivor out there that smash there ctrl button for 30 minutes, but then they complain that their keyboard is getting destroyed during struggle phaseunfortunately piping is so easy that you will always get to rank 1 just by palying enough, thats a major problem of the rank system
And no, I dont enjoy games where I can only get a single kill by hard camping at the end. Thats not the kidn of game I want to play and the devs havent balanced the game around genrush, so I see no problem wanting to play the game as it was designed.
If you dont wanna give me an answer what you prefer, afk or DC, thats fine, but I will derank and thats for sure
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Don't use add-ons then?
Immediately DCing makes the survivors de-pip as well, but AFKing wastes everyone's time. That's why I suggested playing normally and DCing at the end.0 -
@UncannyLuck said:
Don't use add-ons then?Immediately DCing makes the survivors de-pip as well, but AFKing wastes everyone's time. That's why I suggested playing normally and DCing at the end.
Survivors blackpip if the killer DCs, but it wastes their offerings.
Playing addon dependent killers without addons.... well guess what happens if I get bullied with addons already
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Well, @DeadByFlashlight , between DC and afk, I prefer you just play Freddy.0
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@Peasant said:
If you're gonna de-rank either way, the afk route is the lesser of two evils. While it won't let survivors get the full use out of all offerings (White Ward, Oak, etc.) The free time gives them a chance to get a refund of sorts.As for what killer to use, I recommend Doctor as you can just stay in treatment mode and act as an Objective BP fountain. This will Max their BP sooner and get them to leave faster.
Thats interesting, havent thought of that.
Actually I wanted to buy freddy just to derank with him, but the sale is over now... xD
It gets better! There's an add-on type for the Doctor called "Order" that increases the speed at which they gain madness in your TR. Using common Order and Distressing with a deviousness offering might actually provide a means of having shorter and more rewarding AFK rounds.
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Geez @Peasant don't give him ideas. Playing against an afk killer is not fun.
@DeadByFlashlight, why don't you just start playing survivor?0 -
@George_Soros said:
Geez @Peasant don't give him ideas. Playing against an afk killer is not fun.
@DeadByFlashlight, why don't you just start playing survivor?Playing as Survivor doesn't de-rank your killer, though. Which was @DeadByFlashlight 's original goal if I am not mistaken.
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@Peasant Of course, but if he refuses to play killer normally, he should just stop playing killer altogether.0
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@George_Soros said:
Well, @DeadByFlashlight , between DC and afk, I prefer you just play Freddy.Haha, nice one
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@George_Soros said:
Geez @Peasant don't give him ideas. Playing against an afk killer is not fun.
@DeadByFlashlight, why don't you just start playing survivor?I do from time to time, but playing survivor is quite boring to be honest.
It all boils down to holding M1 and runing in circles.
Since they removed all horror aspects of being a survivor, theres not much left in my eyes and I am not the kind of "clicky clicky" guys if you understand what I mean0 -
@George_Soros said:
@Peasant Of course, but if he refuses to play killer normally, he should just stop playing killer altogether.Tell that jendenise then too.
The devs support the idea of deranking, so I see no problem with the process of derankign.And note that jendenise even deranks by Dcing
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If you're really going to play that way I'd prefer you AFK, yes I'd stay for a few once all the gens are done but it's usually out of morbid curiosity to see which killer it is and I've never stayed more than a few minutes or teabagged if I found them, though so far it's usually been a wraith.
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@UncannyLuck said:
Have you considered playing the game and then DCing at the end when they escape / are going to escape? I think that's the fairest way to de-rank for everyone involved.So I use addons to play normally and then DC and dont get any BP?
Seems like a really bad idea.And you have to realize that I derank in order not to get bullied, playing would defeat this purpose
You do realise that some survivors derank on purpose also?
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@Naiad said:
If you're really going to play that way I'd prefer you AFK, yes I'd stay for a few once all the gens are done but it's usually out of morbid curiosity to see which killer it is and I've never stayed more than a few minutes or teabagged if I found them, though so far it's usually been a wraith.@DeadByFlashlight said:
@UncannyLuck said:
Have you considered playing the game and then DCing at the end when they escape / are going to escape? I think that's the fairest way to de-rank for everyone involved.So I use addons to play normally and then DC and dont get any BP?
Seems like a really bad idea.And you have to realize that I derank in order not to get bullied, playing would defeat this purpose
You do realise that some survivors derank on purpose also?
I know, the biggest fog streamer does that for example.
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Jen plays the whole round and DCs when she is dead or about to escape. It's what gave me the idea for the suggestion earlier.0
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@UncannyLuck said:
Jen plays the whole round and DCs when she is dead or about to escape. It's what gave me the idea for the suggestion earlier.She is a survivor and doesnt need to use items. As killer I need addons
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I'm sure most survivors will just do gens, totems, chests, and leave. It doesn't make any sense to stay in the game.
If you pick Wraith or Freddy and just never decloak/sleep then they can't bully you.
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@thesuicidefox said:
I'm sure most survivors will just do gens, totems, chests, and leave. It doesn't make any sense to stay in the game.If you pick Wraith or Freddy and just never decloak/sleep then they can't bully you.
They search for wraith with a flashlight, stun you and kick you out of stealth and then bully you.
Freddy is the only killer that can derank withotu being bullied (the irony eh?)
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Both can lead to a "ban".
You can just let them gen-rush and not kill anybody. That way its considered a "farm game" and wont end with you possibly getting banned for intentionally breaking 2 of their rules. Quit enough, get banned. Survivor takes video of you afking and reports it, ban. good luck.
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I thought being AFK was accepted? The devs are against bots for sure but where are the rules on AFK?projecteulogy said:Both can lead to a "ban".
You can just let them gen-rush and not kill anybody. That way its considered a "farm game" and wont end with you possibly getting banned for intentionally breaking 2 of their rules. Quit enough, get banned. Survivor takes video of you afking and reports it, ban. good luck.
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Guys... don't tell me you can't see how being afk screws the game up. You're just trying to find excuses. How is it better to purposefully derank so you can beat the ass of a bunch of newbies? Going against weaklings makes you happy?4
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
Do you prefer it when the killer deranks via afking or via DCing?And if the killer deranks via afking, will you troll him and hold him hostage to farm points and tbagg instead of just doing gens and leave the game?
i hate the dcing. personally i have only had a afk killer once where it was a crouching pig that crawled in multiple directions to the east, west, north, and south around the map without turning and that was last year. other than that i never get a afk killer but if i did i would want more altruism points and the only way for that is if, not saving or healing others, its by doing skill checks when using self care which would take about 5 minutes. so its not that im holding the game hostage but that i am trying to max out all of my BP also they arent trying to hold it hostage but some people dont know to 99 the gens to maximize BP but instead rush to get them done so some people are left with barely any objective as well as they want the hatch for 2000. for boldness well if your afk how am i supose to get boldness? the only way for that is by breaking one of the few totems or staying inside the basement for a long period of time which i imagine would take 10 minutes to maximize. and for survival is from escaping but you also get points for it from healing yourself. so if we maximize BP we also get enough points to either safety pip or pip, maybe if were lucky enough we might double pip. so by you dcing not only do we get no BP (which is fine) but we automatically safety pip thus meaning we dont have to sit thier and farm in order to not de-pip. so unless your willing to wait like 30 minutes for us to farm with you afk and swinging then you need to just dc in order to de-pip so we dont de-pip or lose our items/add-ons. also if i bring WGLF in order to get those points you have to hit me with another survivor in front of you while in a chase so we have to start running right next to you before the chase ends, since your standing still the chase will end automatically in a few seconds. if your not swinging and just standing thier i will report you for being a "robot" since i end up de-piping since i cant get enough points to safety pip at least.
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@projecteulogy said:
Both can lead to a "ban".You can just let them gen-rush and not kill anybody. That way its considered a "farm game" and wont end with you possibly getting banned for intentionally breaking 2 of their rules. Quit enough, get banned. Survivor takes video of you afking and reports it, ban. good luck.
You wont get banned for afking and you need to DC way more frequently to get banned for it.
The biggest fog streamer deranks by DCing and the devs support her2 -
@DeadByFlashlight said:
@projecteulogy said:
Both can lead to a "ban".You can just let them gen-rush and not kill anybody. That way its considered a "farm game" and wont end with you possibly getting banned for intentionally breaking 2 of their rules. Quit enough, get banned. Survivor takes video of you afking and reports it, ban. good luck.
You wont get banned for afking and you need to DC way more frequently to get banned for it.
The biggest fog streamer deranks by DCing and the devs support herThats actually fairly sad and tells me something about the dev..
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I'm reaching the point where I want to derank as a Killer, so I'm just gonna follow Survivors around until they figure it out. Once the doors open, if they tbag and try to hold me hostage, I'll just smack em. Either they leave and the game ends, or they go down and get hooked like they deserved.
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I'd much prefer a Killer to derank by AFK'ing. I wouldn't troll or hold the game hostage personally, but I'm sure there are a few people who would in that instance. DC'ing means I lose my Offering and waste time that I could have spent better in another match. When you burn a BPS or Cake, and the Killer DCs, it really frustrates and angers you. Much better to AFK imo. I'll hit the gens, scout for totems, maybe get some Bold points playing in the TR, and call it a match.
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Afk is far better and I never troll an afk killer, I might run near them for points and hopefully give them some blood points to spend. But I don't do it long enough that they'll pip out of it.
I know a few that do it and I won't ever troll them since sometimes they get a map they don't like and so i'll try and rush objectives as fast as possible so they don't have to wait.
For the ones that go in and try and troll them and get besmented you do that at your own peril and I've watched 3 people get basemented that way.
I just kept doing gens powered the gates and that was that.
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@powerbats said:
Afk is far better and I never troll an afk killer, I might run near them for points and hopefully give them some blood points to spend. But I don't do it long enough that they'll pip out of it.I know a few that do it and I won't ever troll them since sometimes they get a map they don't like and so i'll try and rush objectives as fast as possible so they don't have to wait.
For the ones that go in and try and troll them and get besmented you do that at your own peril and I've watched 3 people get basemented that way.
I just kept doing gens powered the gates and that was that.
Lol. I saw this happen on Autohaven Blood Lodge once. Basement spawned in the Lodge, Killer sat down there and watched the chest. Didn't do anything at all above ground, but anyone who went into the Basement and tried to take his treasure got hooked. A 2-man SWF + 1 other solo queue like myself went down into there and didn't come back. I did 4 gens, broke the totems, picked up a bit of Boldness from being in the TR and walked out with 18k BP. I was laughing so hard in post-game because the others got all salty from the meme.
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@George_Soros said:
Then you're not afk anymore - how about firing up your chainsaw and making some gaping chest wounds? But more importantly, if rank 1 games are that harrowing, and killers are unviable, then you should be able to derank simply by playing, right? If as you say, the deck is so stacked against killers you'd be down at rank 10 again in no time.
It's so bizarre to argue about it, but it's just like that: you play well, you rank up. Then you're stuck with players who are good. Challenge. Enjoy it. Just please please don't waste other people's time by DC-ing or being afk.That would be true if the ranking system was viable and working well, reflecting the player's skills.
It's not.
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Yeah ok, there are several problems with the emblem system, but it's still a good indicator, albeit imperfect. Gatekeeper and Devout are fine, I think Malicious too. It's only Chaser that's unfair to some killers.Giche said:@George_Soros said:
Then you're not afk anymore - how about firing up your chainsaw and making some gaping chest wounds? But more importantly, if rank 1 games are that harrowing, and killers are unviable, then you should be able to derank simply by playing, right? If as you say, the deck is so stacked against killers you'd be down at rank 10 again in no time.
It's so bizarre to argue about it, but it's just like that: you play well, you rank up. Then you're stuck with players who are good. Challenge. Enjoy it. Just please please don't waste other people's time by DC-ing or being afk.That would be true if the ranking system was viable and working well, reflecting the player's skills.
It's not.
But back to the original point: both DC-ing and being afk is unacceptable. Anyone who wants to derank: please find another way.1 -
@TatsuiChiyo said:
I'm reaching the point where I want to derank as a Killer, so I'm just gonna follow Survivors around until they figure it out.You'll be amazed how long it takes some of these numbnuts to figure out that you're not swinging.
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I prefer AFK. DC'ing is a waste of my BP offering.
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The way I see it, @George_Soros , they're going to de-rank anyway. So I figure if they're going to de-rank regardless then it would be best for them to de-rank in a way that hurts the smallest number of players as possible.George_Soros said:Guys... don't tell me you can't see how being afk screws the game up. You're just trying to find excuses. How is it better to purposefully derank so you can beat the ass of a bunch of newbies? Going against weaklings makes you happy?
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@George_Soros said:
Giche said:@George_Soros said:
Then you're not afk anymore - how about firing up your chainsaw and making some gaping chest wounds? But more importantly, if rank 1 games are that harrowing, and killers are unviable, then you should be able to derank simply by playing, right? If as you say, the deck is so stacked against killers you'd be down at rank 10 again in no time.
It's so bizarre to argue about it, but it's just like that: you play well, you rank up. Then you're stuck with players who are good. Challenge. Enjoy it. Just please please don't waste other people's time by DC-ing or being afk.
That would be true if the ranking system was viable and working well, reflecting the player's skills.
It's not.
Yeah ok, there are several problems with the emblem system, but it's still a good indicator, albeit imperfect. Gatekeeper and Devout are fine, I think Malicious too. It's only Chaser that's unfair to some killers.
But back to the original point: both DC-ing and being afk is unacceptable. Anyone who wants to derank: please find another way.You used to be able to derank by slugging, but this isnt possible anymore.
If you are aware of another way to derank, please tell me
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@George_Soros said:
Giche said:@George_Soros said:
Then you're not afk anymore - how about firing up your chainsaw and making some gaping chest wounds? But more importantly, if rank 1 games are that harrowing, and killers are unviable, then you should be able to derank simply by playing, right? If as you say, the deck is so stacked against killers you'd be down at rank 10 again in no time.
It's so bizarre to argue about it, but it's just like that: you play well, you rank up. Then you're stuck with players who are good. Challenge. Enjoy it. Just please please don't waste other people's time by DC-ing or being afk.
That would be true if the ranking system was viable and working well, reflecting the player's skills.
It's not.
Yeah ok, there are several problems with the emblem system, but it's still a good indicator, albeit imperfect. Gatekeeper and Devout are fine, I think Malicious too. It's only Chaser that's unfair to some killers.
But back to the original point: both DC-ing and being afk is unacceptable. Anyone who wants to derank: please find another way.You used to be able to derank by slugging, but this isnt possible anymore.
If you are aware of another way to derank, please tell me
How about this: don't.
Honestly, trying to derank (and posting about it on the forums!) means two things:- You want easy matches
- While you want easy matches, you still want to advertise how cool you are, having made it to high ranks.
Sorry, but it's kinda obvious.
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