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WHY ISN'T THIS BOTHERING ANYONE?!?

Brainfck
Brainfck Member Posts: 18
edited July 2020 in General Discussions

It's just collosally stupid to show the offerings that are brought into the match before the match actually loads. People just close the game when they see a mori or a map they don't like and waste everybody's time doing so. I already did a post about this topic but it just happened to me twice in a row and I'm pissed. The 2nd time someone actually messaged me and said "with mori loool!"

Just show the offerings while the camera spins around your character at the beginning of the match and that's it! It's as simple as that and would fix a problem that's been there since the beginning! But apparently I'm the only one who even cares.

Comments

  • Steel_Eyed
    Steel_Eyed Member Posts: 4,033

    DC penalties are reenabled. Sometimes these fellas are messaging because they cannot play/killing time.

  • dumpmasta
    dumpmasta Member Posts: 7

    relatively new player here....why DC again map offerings?

  • Dehitay
    Dehitay Member Posts: 1,726
    edited July 2020

    I don't think that disconnection penalties apply until the game loads in so those that disconnect because of offerings aren't hit by them.

  • Seiji212
    Seiji212 Member Posts: 183

    You should experience the horror of a strode key offering in a balanced landing swf match my friend. Or an offering for Ormond with the auras the way they are.

  • Ivaldi
    Ivaldi Member Posts: 977

    DC penalties dont enable if you close out during the loading screen.

  • Samwise444
    Samwise444 Member Posts: 196

    Because there are certain maps that people choose to hate. As survivor, I sometimes put hospital and hawkins. So many people dislike those maps but I love them. Certain perks work better on certain maps and certain killers have advantages on certain maps. In general, I wish that everyone would be open to playing on any map. No matter what happens in a game, there is always a chance to win and a chance to lose everytime. It is how people play which will make the difference.

  • handfulofrain
    handfulofrain Member Posts: 317

    Responses like these are why nobody takes killers suggestions seriously. This is why evert killer suggestion comes from "entitled killer mains lol"


    It's not that hard. Just play the game. This is from a rank 1 Trapper main.

  • Seiji212
    Seiji212 Member Posts: 183

    Please. If you’re cool with it then that’s awesome of you, but a coordinated swf can completely screw your game with the right map. As a trapper you should understand this. For the rest of us, say huntresses starting at a Hawkins or nurse’s looking at a Lery’s it’s disheartening and just one more extreme advantage over you.

  • clem1710
    clem1710 Member Posts: 275
    edited July 2020

    "Secret" offerings should be REALLY secret. They should not even appear on the screen, otherwise it's not secret. I'm tired by the fact survivors have so many informations about the killer build...

  • NursesBootie
    NursesBootie Member Posts: 2,159

    Ormond is a really strong survivor map, borderline unwinnable against good teams.

    Hawkins is a godlike hag map, very likely a loss for the survivors.

    I understand it, but i just play the match.

  • Seiji212
    Seiji212 Member Posts: 183

    I mostly agree and don’t drop match because of offering, but it most certainly influences how sweaty I’m gonna play if an obvious swf burns a Haddonfield. Sure, I’m petty, but if these groups go out of their way to flex an advantage and deny me a game, I’m going to do everything in my power to return the favor. That’s just how it is.

  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Member Posts: 1,953

    Symptomatic treatment doesn't accomplish anything, what we need is a remedy for the ultimate cause. In this case, many survivors don't like going against a Mori. And the devs are aware of this, so eventually they will be rebalanced. Same with keys!

  • solidhex
    solidhex Member Posts: 891

    Mori is most of the time just a lose and depip for the survivors, sometimes some escape but most of the time it's an easy win for the killer. Had a match against an Oni with pink mori today where 2 survivors DC'd instantly after getting downed lol. I still managed to 0-pip luckily.

    Maps can really set the direction of the game, hawkins is nearly always in killers favor. As killer player i hate all the Coldwind maps except Rancid Abattoir and i extremely hate Ormond, always hard matches there against better teams. Haddonfield is ok for me.

  • Babyyy_Boyy
    Babyyy_Boyy Member Posts: 444

    Let’s be real. No one enjoys playing against Moris.

  • TraitorousLeopard
    TraitorousLeopard Member Posts: 156

    It's pretty hard to sympathize with people who use strong survivor Map offerings or Moris, because it's basically starting the match saying "Hey, I don't care about your fun, I just want this match to heavily favor me. Alright, let's play!" and then being suprised when people just leave.

    Just don't use them, and if someone else uses them, be mad at that person, not the guy who chose to hop out of a horribly imbalanced match.

  • Samwise444
    Samwise444 Member Posts: 196

    And I respect that. You should absolutely play to the best you can and not let up on a team regardless of the circumstances. I also get that certain maps and situations will change your tactics. However, I do strongly believe that no matter what, that you can still escape or 4k in any game. There is a certain amount of luck, but skill is involved too. By people dcing, it denies them the ability to grow and try new tactics. Best luck out there.

  • Samwise444
    Samwise444 Member Posts: 196

    To get to the point of the original post, I believe that there should be no screen to show you offerings. It is more fun that way and I think automatically changes the way people think. If a whole bunch of survivors bring bloody party streamers, I am going to have a certain perception of them. If anyone brings a map offering, I immediately think that they chose this map for a reason and are most likely good on it.

    Leave it a mystery and let the game play out as it is.

    Then again, I also don't think killer should be able to see what items they are bringing or be able to check how many hours they have played before a match starts.

  • Seiji212
    Seiji212 Member Posts: 183

    All of the above being what it is, I’m fairly certain most survs burning Ormond right now are intentionally taking advantage of the busted auras. Some ppl, like myself, can’t even see where their gens are. There’s a special place in video game hell for these people, and it’s the basement where I am gonna face camp them until the auras get fixed. Not like I can play normally anyways. If we get it naturally I’ll probably just farm or something.

  • Carpemortum
    Carpemortum Member Posts: 4,506

    DCing because "I dont like this map" (let alone Dcing at all), makes you the trash...

    Dont play if you cant handle the maps you dont like as well as the ones you prefer. That's how things work in the real world.

  • xGodSendDeath
    xGodSendDeath Member Posts: 320

    if a SWF burns Ormond, farm, or Haddonfield maps, i d/c and send them back to their long ass queue

  • miachan22
    miachan22 Member Posts: 36
    edited July 2020

    I dont dc against a map, but I would like to know what kind of mori the killer is bringing it :(

  • Demonl3y
    Demonl3y Member Posts: 1,416

    If you DC because you cant handle a map or a mori or something, you are the one who would get called trash my boi.

  • Getya_Mad
    Getya_Mad Member Posts: 42

    Personally I dont even get why they bother showing the offerings at all.

  • Samwise444
    Samwise444 Member Posts: 196

    Because there are certain maps that people choose to hate. As survivor, I sometimes put hospital and hawkins. So many people dislike those maps but I love them. Certain perks work better on certain maps and certain killers have advantages on certain maps. In general, I wish that everyone would be open to playing on any map. No matter what happens in a game, there is always a chance to win and a chance to lose everytime. It is how people play which will make the difference.

  • Samwise444
    Samwise444 Member Posts: 196

    Because there are certain maps that people choose to hate. As survivor, I sometimes put hospital and hawkins. So many people dislike those maps but I love them. Certain perks work better on certain maps and certain killers have advantages on certain maps. In general, I wish that everyone would be open to playing on any map. No matter what happens in a game, there is always a chance to win and a chance to lose everytime. It is how people play which will make the difference.

  • handfulofrain
    handfulofrain Member Posts: 317

    Trust me, people who DC will always find an excuse for it. If it's not the perks it's the maps, if it's not the maps it's the hitboxes, if it's not the hitboxes it's the weather outside. Don't kid yourself.

    Also, yes I do agree that all those things should be changed. My original comment was simply saying that people overreact like crazy, especially on these forums.

  • handfulofrain
    handfulofrain Member Posts: 317

    True. All I'm saying is that people really like to overreact on the forums.

  • Saitamfed
    Saitamfed Member Posts: 1,622

    Excuse me but Lery's is a great map for nurse, if you bring aura reading perk that's it. Well, with the new aura changes... it's horrible.

  • Seiji212
    Seiji212 Member Posts: 183

    I have literally never heard anyone claim that. I run the old gal pretty often on Xbox and Lery’s is a nightmare. Los blockers and windows left and right. You are possessed of some magic that I do not have that’s for certain.

  • handfulofrain
    handfulofrain Member Posts: 317

    Hey, man, I know the feeling. These forums are... something.

    But I'm glad we could be civil and have a good chat. :D

  • TraitorousLeopard
    TraitorousLeopard Member Posts: 156

    The big distinction is that you don't have a player at the beginning of the match going "Hey, can we get worse hitboxes this match? Great." "Guys, I'm gonna be using an offering so that you get exhausted from Dead Hard but the hit still lands." "Survivor Grease: Makes the killer start the grab animation and then just freeze in place while the survivor runs away." That unfairness sucks, and people do DC over it, but it is at least random, unintentional unfairness.

    But if someone starts a match with "Let's play a version of the game where I only have to hook you once." or "Let's go to a map so big and with so many resources we'd basically have to try to lose." then yeah, it was in their power to do that, and as long as it's in people's power to opt out by DCing on the loading screen, that's totally understandable. Because why would you want to play against someone who has no interest in playing a fair match?

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    I would have no issues if they got rid of the offering screen entirely. I never really understood the purpose of seeing what offerings your opponent used in the first place. If I use a bloodpoint offering they're not going to care, and if I use something like a Mori some people will just ragequit or whatever. Plus there are so few "secret" offerings that everybody knows what they are anyway (survivors only have one type of secret offering to group together at the start of the match, and killers pretty much only ever use the Mori offerings and not the Shrouds.) They should either:

    • Get rid of the offering screen entirely, just show quick tips or something
    • Only show the offerings for your own side (killer sees their own offering, survivors see the survivor team's offerings)
    • Keep the offering screen as is except either don't show an icon for "secret" offerings or show a fake random offering in place of the secret one. (So if you use a secret offering it shows the other side something random in its place instead of the real one.) That would at least make the "secret" an actual secret and a surprise during the match.