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Why thrilling over BBQ?

Zeus
Zeus Member Posts: 2,114

I've seen a lot of killers who prefer thrilling over BBQ as an information perk. My question is why? Is there any advantage you get over BBQ? Personally I feel BBQ gives more reliable info than thrilling.

I was thinking about a buff to thrilling tremors which just blocks every generator instead of the ones not being worked on so as to compensate for the time it takes to pick up and hook the survivor.

Every time I play as survivor and work as a pair, a survivor loops the killer for half (or close to half) gen progress and goes down but the gen gets done by the time they grab the survivor, hook him and get there. Considering the cooldown with that perk I think it's a fair buff.

Comments

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 10,212

    Sometimes it can be hard to notice survivor auras behind generators. Thrilling does let you know which gens are currently being working on to pressure by highlighting gens not being worked on.

  • Zeus
    Zeus Member Posts: 2,114

    That's a very minor advantage point over BBQ isn't it? And the new aura system kinda adds to it but then when it's fixed this advantage will disappear.

    BBQ on the other hand can give you exact location of survivor even when they are healing or hiding and also gives you 100% more BP.

  • BlindMole
    BlindMole Member Posts: 649

    Because double points. Not a lot to add, most times i forget i have it and don't even look for auras. Can't wait for the grind to be over or almost done so i can slap something else in that perk slot

  • hahadrillgobrrr
    hahadrillgobrrr Member Posts: 953

    Info from thrilling is better than from BBQ. At least I see it that way. I can see what gens they are working on so I don't have to waste time patrolling gens to pop.

  • LordRegal
    LordRegal Member Posts: 1,551

    If all gens get blocked, it's some minor stall to prevent gen progress while you're getting a hook. If not all gens get blocked, you're blocking any other gen from being worked on while you're hooking AND you know where to go to immediately get into a chase. The only "counter" to TT is to let go of your gen, but then you can't work on it for 16 seconds which is just under 25% progress if solo (not counting great skillchecks). That's a lot more consistent than the ways BBQ gets countered.

    I do miss the double BP though.

  • Zeus
    Zeus Member Posts: 2,114

    You can see what gens they are working on with BBQ as well. And you can see more than that. That's why I was confused why people go for thrilling

  • SweetTerror
    SweetTerror Member Posts: 2,697

    BBQ gives you double bloodpoints which is always welcome, but thrilling is the better informational perk as it will always let you know which generators are being worked on. Because BBQ can be countered if survivors hide their auras behind the generator.

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789

    Gives more info on generators; bbq doesn't always show survivors properly if they're on a generator, and you don't care about survivors that are running around the map doing nothing productive as a rule unless it's the last survivor; you want to pressure the generators that are being worked, and if you know a gen has been worked on and is nearly done, for example, you can scare them off it and pick a survivor up to buy you time to pop it since they can't work on it.


    BBQ is good for points, nothing more. The aura is useful rarely, imo.

  • SeannyD115
    SeannyD115 Member Posts: 583

    Once survivors realize you have BBQ they might hide in a locker or behind a gen to prevent you from seeing their aura then go back to work on a gen. With thrilling if they stop working on a gen they have to wait 16secs. So it gives good information and helps slow down the game a little.

  • Zeus
    Zeus Member Posts: 2,114

    1. It's not possible to hide behind generator auras anymore with the new aura system. Even prior to this I was always able to see auras through gens. The intensity fades slightly when BBQ runs out which you can use to know where survivors are.

    2. Thrilling has a cooldown. So you get less use off of it than from BBQ.

    3. Even though you don't care about other survivors, it's always good to know where they are. Information is key and you can always ignore them and go for the people on gens.

    4. Thrilling activates when you pick survivor up. You need to hook the survivor which takes some time. After you finish hooking, the information you have is not fresh. It's on average 8-12s old than what you get with BBQ and they could be anywhere at that point.

  • hahadrillgobrrr
    hahadrillgobrrr Member Posts: 953

    No I can't if they are smart and hide behind gen, are close to hook or in a locker.

  • SunderMun
    SunderMun Member Posts: 2,789

    You mean the impossible to see auras? Nice try. :)


    I run thrilling a lot, with or without a slowdown perk, and that information has served me to maintain rank 1 on multiple killers, even ones considered weak, vs plenty of toxic squads.

  • Zeus
    Zeus Member Posts: 2,114

    Well, not the anti colorblind-friendly version. They will be adjusting it shortly. Based on what we've seen so far they are going for a transparent and a wireframe aura design.

    My question is why do you think you wouldn't have done the same with BBQ?

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Thrilling is a perk with few downsides that works even when the survivors know you have it. Either you know exactly where they are, or the generator has a not inconsiderable 16 extra seconds (should they let go before it activates to fool you). As opposed to BBQ, a perk with counterplay for days and (especially after the aura changes) little practical use because of it. I get a good reading maybe twice a match with BBQ. The rest of the time it's there for BP's.

  • TAG
    TAG Member Posts: 12,874

    I prefer BBQ because of the big cooldown on Thrilling. If it wasn't for the cooldown, I would say Thrilling Tremors is better. Though beyond that, BBQ also lets me easily see Survivors wearing Reverse Bear Traps who are trying to move toward another box.

  • Dead_by_Gadfly
    Dead_by_Gadfly Member Posts: 3,772

    People on gens are a higher priority over people running across the map and gens block bbq auras a lot of times. Its just better if my goal is to pressure gens

  • PrettyFaceKate
    PrettyFaceKate Member Posts: 1,776
    edited July 2020

    BBQ is overall better by a landslide, not even considering the bp boost, which is just a bonus.

    It doesn't have a cooldown. If survivors try to hide from it, it has a comparable stalling effect as thrilling. It gives info outside of gens and even when gens are completed. The range limitation is unsubstantial, because if survivors are on nearby gens, your awareness is enough to notice it. You don't need Thrilling for that.

    Thrilling doesn't block generators if survivors stay on it. If they're nearby, you can chase them away from a gen so you can block it. But at that point it's even debatable if it is a worthy play most of the time and if you should simply slug instead.

    Freddy is the only one who can possibly get more value from Thrilling than BBQ.

  • Zeus
    Zeus Member Posts: 2,114

    Exactly what I was thinking. Besides freddy's bait only works the first time you use it.

  • thrawn3054
    thrawn3054 Member Posts: 6,368

    Thrilling is a better info perk. With the benefit of blocking gens. Realistically if not for the BP gain BBQ would have been completely replaced by Thrilling.