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The Counter To Camping Has Been Here All Along

DarkWo1f997
DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
edited September 2018 in General Discussions
Since none of you understand what I mean, I’m putting it in here that this is a reference to the escape phase. The solution to campers while OBJ is active is to just go nuts with gens. I’m sorry that I wasn’t clear on that.  

Camping is very easy to counter. You deal with it the exact same way as a hatch standoff. 

Everyone just swarms the hook, and cancel unhook attempts until the killer strikes someone, that guy bolts and while the killer is on cooldown someone else unhooks and absolutely everyone gets away. 

Ive had the game just shy of a month and I already figured this out people. Stop crying and use your brain. Killers don’t need another nerf of any kind whatsoever.  
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  • Terrortot
    Terrortot Member Posts: 423
    I usually wait for the hands to go up when they are unhooking to be sure i get a grab instead of hit, then drop them on the ground and keep camping.

    Only end game though, when exit gates are powered/powering.
  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    edited September 2018
    Tunneling doesn’t exist. If you can’t lose the killer than that’s your fault. If your team doesn’t mosquito the killer, that’s on your team. It’s not hard at all. There’s four of you and you are ridiculously strong when together. 
  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    Terrortot said:
    I usually wait for the hands to go up when they are unhooking to be sure i get a grab instead of hit, then drop them on the ground and keep camping.

    Only end game though, when exit gates are powered/powering.
    It’s not that simple. They can use flashlights and surround you, making sure you’re blind from every angle. They can snatch control away even just one of them can ensure the save. 

    They have so many utilities at their disposal. They need to stop whining about a 2 year old problem that no one seems to have managed a solution for. Well, here it is. It works. 

    Plus if you DO get the grab, they can just unhook and block. Once again, you’ve lost control of the situation because you didn’t time something right or think it through before acting. 
  • Oblitiry
    Oblitiry Member Posts: 487
    edited September 2018
    Compared to just gen rushing and completely punishing the camper. Your idea has way more risks than rewards. Although this is viable if the exit gates are open and exposed isn't on the table.
  • HellDescent
    HellDescent Member Posts: 4,883

    That's not a news flash. You can't exactly go for it while expecting every single survivor to know what you are thinking.

  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532

    That's not a news flash. You can't exactly go for it while expecting every single survivor to know what you are thinking.

    That’s what emotes are for. 
  • TheHourMan
    TheHourMan Member Posts: 1,052
    Terrortot said:
    I usually wait for the hands to go up when they are unhooking to be sure i get a grab instead of hit, then drop them on the ground and keep camping.

    Only end game though, when exit gates are powered/powering.
    It’s not that simple. They can use flashlights and surround you, making sure you’re blind from every angle. They can snatch control away even just one of them can ensure the save. 

    They have so many utilities at their disposal. They need to stop whining about a 2 year old problem that no one seems to have managed a solution for. Well, here it is. It works. 

    Plus if you DO get the grab, they can just unhook and block. Once again, you’ve lost control of the situation because you didn’t time something right or think it through before acting. 
    They can only blind you from 3 angles actually. And if you are looking down at the hooked victim, there is nothing they can do to blind you aside from firecrackers. If you do grab someone, you have them on your shoulder in time to hit the unhooked survivor as soon as they get on the ground, then get two more hits in on the blocking/healing survs with some time left to hook the person on your shoulder. I have gotten multiple 4ks at the exit gates because survs just refused to leave the hooked one and cut their losses
  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    This is the exact opposite of what survivors should do against a camper. They should spread out and work on different generators. That is how you punish a camper.... not by feeding them.

  • feffrey
    feffrey Member Posts: 886

    This is the exact opposite of what survivors should do against a camper. They should spread out and work on different generators. That is how you punish a camper.... not by feeding them.

    how
  • 2BadWaluigiTime
    2BadWaluigiTime Member Posts: 21

    Didn't they JUST make it so you could cancel un-hooking attempts? Thought I saw that in the 2.2 patch notes.

  • OXY
    OXY Member Posts: 68
    Tunneling doesn’t exist. If you can’t lose the killer than that’s your fault. If your team doesn’t mosquito the killer, that’s on your team. It’s not hard at all. There’s four of you and you are ridiculously strong when together. 
    You've barely had this game a month and you're acting lile you're an expert. Just stop lmao. Tunneling does exist and doing your method wastes time for everybody.

    The best counter is for the Survivors to continue doing gens if someone is being camped. Sucks for the guy on the hook but it also sucks for the Killer, as it will be an easy win/pip for the three survivors
  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    CoolAKn said:

    So, your solution to camping is to do exactly what most killer mains on here say is the reason why they camp.

    Nah. Gen rushing is the reason this month.
  • DarkWo1f997
    DarkWo1f997 Member Posts: 1,532
    OXY said:
    Tunneling doesn’t exist. If you can’t lose the killer than that’s your fault. If your team doesn’t mosquito the killer, that’s on your team. It’s not hard at all. There’s four of you and you are ridiculously strong when together. 
    You've barely had this game a month and you're acting lile you're an expert. Just stop lmao. Tunneling does exist and doing your method wastes time for everybody.

    The best counter is for the Survivors to continue doing gens if someone is being camped. Sucks for the guy on the hook but it also sucks for the Killer, as it will be an easy win/pip for the three survivors
    I mean I’m referring to the escape phase, and where did I say I know more than everyone else? You assume the worst in my intentions. There’s a lot of crying on the forums about camping and all I’m trying to do is show that there are ways to combat it but it all comes down to wit. 


    I dont know how this survivor empowerment started, I don’t understand the logic of it. I just want people to actually try new things before crying on here. 

    If killers get as much as one more nerf, it’s going to be really bad for the entire community. 

    I get that you have your reasons for disagreeing, but a lot of people flat out give up because a killer is close to the hook, and it’s like if you’re not even going to try anything then why come to the forums and declare it an issue? 

    Its happening too too often for it to be ignored. A good majority of the community truly believes that there isn’t a way around it. Playing survivor is a gamble on living, not a guarantee. 
  • Lowbei
    Lowbei Member Posts: 2,637
    Since none of you understand what I mean, I’m putting it in here that this is a reference to the escape phase. The solution to campers while OBJ is active is to just go nuts with gens. I’m sorry that I wasn’t clear on that.  

    Camping is very easy to counter. You deal with it the exact same way as a hatch standoff. 

    Everyone just swarms the hook, and cancel unhook attempts until the killer strikes someone, that guy bolts and while the killer is on cooldown someone else unhooks and absolutely everyone gets away. 

    Ive had the game just shy of a month and I already figured this out people. Stop crying and use your brain. Killers don’t need another nerf of any kind whatsoever.  
    im sure this might work at rank 20.
  • Vietfox
    Vietfox Member Posts: 3,823

    Ive had the game just shy of a month and I already figured this out people. Stop crying and use your brain. Killers don’t need another nerf of any kind whatsoever.  
    People already figured that out in 2016.
    They rarely do it because it's quite risky and i would advise it only when the gates are open and someone has BT.
  • Eveline
    Eveline Member Posts: 2,340
    But if no one does gens except you it's pretty much gg. Most of the time as a solo I end up a black sheep with 3-man swfs. People talk about gen rushing but in at least 70% of my games survivors hardly do any.
  • Eveline
    Eveline Member Posts: 2,340
    It's all about that hook farm.
  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642

    @Eveline said:
    But if no one does gens except you it's pretty much gg. Most of the time as a solo I end up a black sheep with 3-man swfs. People talk about gen rushing but in at least 70% of my games survivors hardly do any.

    Rank, platform?

  • Eveline
    Eveline Member Posts: 2,340
    Rank 1 recently. Ps4.
  • Pretty sure you can't stop jumping into the hatch half way through mate :lol:

  • lyric
    lyric Member Posts: 611
    OXY said:
    Tunneling doesn’t exist. If you can’t lose the killer than that’s your fault. If your team doesn’t mosquito the killer, that’s on your team. It’s not hard at all. There’s four of you and you are ridiculously strong when together. 
    You've barely had this game a month and you're acting lile you're an expert. Just stop lmao. Tunneling does exist and doing your method wastes time for everybody.

    The best counter is for the Survivors to continue doing gens if someone is being camped. Sucks for the guy on the hook but it also sucks for the Killer, as it will be an easy win/pip for the three survivors
    I mean I’m referring to the escape phase, and where did I say I know more than everyone else? You assume the worst in my intentions. There’s a lot of crying on the forums about camping and all I’m trying to do is show that there are ways to combat it but it all comes down to wit. 


    I dont know how this survivor empowerment started, I don’t understand the logic of it. I just want people to actually try new things before crying on here. 

    If killers get as much as one more nerf, it’s going to be really bad for the entire community. 

    I get that you have your reasons for disagreeing, but a lot of people flat out give up because a killer is close to the hook, and it’s like if you’re not even going to try anything then why come to the forums and declare it an issue? 

    Its happening too too often for it to be ignored. A good majority of the community truly believes that there isn’t a way around it. Playing survivor is a gamble on living, not a guarantee. 
    Only noobs cry about camping on here along with the same bunch that cry about looping survivors, the game is balanced for the most part but people just don’t want to admit it or change their play style at all they think they should be able to do what they want and still always win. I’m gonna laugh my ass off when the new game modes getting released turn out to be bot survivors and killers for all the cry babies
  • douggie123
    douggie123 Member Posts: 1,316
    I camp occasionally and still get a 4k.
  • qpwoeiruty
    qpwoeiruty Member Posts: 98

    OP is obviously playing at high ranks. If i'm playing killer and camping some idiot survivor, I am getting AT LEAST that kill. If they swarm the hook and fake unhook and stuff, i just pull them off and drop them. Its a mindgame that only works when you play someone who sucks.

  • rlevet
    rlevet Member Posts: 20

    @Global said:
    there is nothing wrong with camping if anything it helps survivors more than the killer

    XDDDDDDDDD
    Camping is toxic and not fair play

  • SanKa_Games
    SanKa_Games Member Posts: 201

    STBFL laughs at you right now.

  • iceman2kx
    iceman2kx Member Posts: 462

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    Tunneling doesn’t exist.

    Yea tunneling certainly does exist. It's a legit tactic survivor strongly dislike though. Sometimes survivor's teammate force a killer to tunnel by unhooking their teammates when the killer is near. Sometimes killer's are forced to tunnel because generators are being completed too quick. Sometimes killers tunnel just because they like to tunnel. The bottom line is 3 survivors is much easier to deal with than 4.

    If survivor's don't like it, well, sorry about your bad luck I don't like you doing generators so I guess we are even. Your teammates should unhook you when I'm not even 20 meters away. Lol, what do you want me to do, purposely skip the injured guy to avoid being called names and potentially lose?

  • ShrimpTwiggs
    ShrimpTwiggs Member Posts: 1,181

    @rlevet said:

    @Global said:
    there is nothing wrong with camping if anything it helps survivors more than the killer

    XDDDDDDDDD
    Camping is toxic and not fair play

    No it isn't. If the killer camps, the survivors can punish it by repairing gens. If the survivors rush in anyway, then it's their fault if they get rolled.

  • Global
    Global Member Posts: 770

    @rlevet said:

    @Global said:
    there is nothing wrong with camping if anything it helps survivors more than the killer

    XDDDDDDDDD
    Camping is toxic and not fair play

    looping, decisive, sprint burst, adrenaline, hatch? alright.

  • MegaWaffle
    MegaWaffle Member Posts: 4,172

    @DarkWo1f997 said:
    Since none of you understand what I mean, I’m putting it in here that this is a reference to the escape phase. The solution to campers while OBJ is active is to just go nuts with gens. I’m sorry that I wasn’t clear on that.  

    Camping is very easy to counter. You deal with it the exact same way as a hatch standoff. 

    Everyone just swarms the hook, and cancel unhook attempts until the killer strikes someone, that guy bolts and while the killer is on cooldown someone else unhooks and absolutely everyone gets away. 

    Ive had the game just shy of a month and I already figured this out people. Stop crying and use your brain. Killers don’t need another nerf of any kind whatsoever.  

    Now serving "Camping" post number #1467.

  • rlevet
    rlevet Member Posts: 20
    edited September 2018

    @Global said:

    @rlevet said:

    @Global said:
    there is nothing wrong with camping if anything it helps survivors more than the killer

    XDDDDDDDDD
    Camping is toxic and not fair play

    looping, decisive, sprint burst, adrenaline, hatch? alright.

    Just play good killers as Nurse or Billy and you will not have these problems.
    There is no counter for camping and tunneling a survivor. It's not fun for the survivor and everyone to camp, so yeah, camping is a big problem. Looping is also a big problem, but not as big as camping.
    Also, when the killer says "GG" and he only camped during the game, it's a little funny.. :)
    EDIT: When I say camp it's obvious camp and face camp.

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786

    Inb4 Save The Best For Last make you deeply regret your decisions.

  • Raccoon
    Raccoon Member Posts: 7,741
    If you can't have fun without an imaginary ruleset, the uninstall option is always there.
  • @DarkWo1f997 said:
    Since none of you understand what I mean, I’m putting it in here that this is a reference to the escape phase. The solution to campers while OBJ is active is to just go nuts with gens. I’m sorry that I wasn’t clear on that.  

    Camping is very easy to counter. You deal with it the exact same way as a hatch standoff. 

    Everyone just swarms the hook, and cancel unhook attempts until the killer strikes someone, that guy bolts and while the killer is on cooldown someone else unhooks and absolutely everyone gets away. 

    Ive had the game just shy of a month and I already figured this out people. Stop crying and use your brain. Killers don’t need another nerf of any kind whatsoever.  

    In the end, the only people who are able to coordinate it like that are SWF lobbies and nobody likes those, because they can't behave themselves most of the time and tbag when they think they accomplished something

  • Justicar
    Justicar Member Posts: 319

    There is no need for a "Counter to Camping" because Camping Is Not a Problem. The devs have said as much, on multiple occassions. As multiple people have already said in this thread, the way to counter camping is doing gens. If more people would simply do this instead of throwing themselves at the hook for those tasty altruism points, you'd see far less camping.