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Quick Poll for Killer Mains

Peasant
Peasant Member Posts: 4,104

https://www.strawpoll.me/16530925
Feel free to leave your reasoning for your choice below!

Comments

  • xxaggieboyxx
    xxaggieboyxx Member Posts: 498

    @Orion said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    self care, people dont realize it but its more crutch then decisive strike

    If I may disagree, Self Care is only a symptom of the issue, which is that hits don't matter in the long term when you can heal an unlimited number of times without any consequence.

    how is this disagreeing? if anything you are only proving my point even further. its crutch to a point people dont care at all when they get hit. your point isnt invalid. self care only makes it worse(getting hit and not caring)

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    edited September 2018

    @xxaggieboyxx said:

    @Orion said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    self care, people dont realize it but its more crutch then decisive strike

    If I may disagree, Self Care is only a symptom of the issue, which is that hits don't matter in the long term when you can heal an unlimited number of times without any consequence.

    how is this disagreeing? if anything you are only proving my point even further. its crutch to a point people dont care at all when they get hit. your point isnt invalid. self care only makes it worse(getting hit and not caring)

    Orion was simply stating that Self-Healing isn't as big of a problem as endless healing is. Let's a face it, if a Dwight goes AFK the killer can beat him up, then drop him 4 times and beat him again endlessly with Dwight suffering no consequences as long as he isn't killed too quickly after. You can heal machete wounds endlessly, implying that the damage wasn't that bad to begin with.

  • xxaggieboyxx
    xxaggieboyxx Member Posts: 498

    @Peasant said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:

    @Orion said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    self care, people dont realize it but its more crutch then decisive strike

    If I may disagree, Self Care is only a symptom of the issue, which is that hits don't matter in the long term when you can heal an unlimited number of times without any consequence.

    how is this disagreeing? if anything you are only proving my point even further. its crutch to a point people dont care at all when they get hit. your point isnt invalid. self care only makes it worse(getting hit and not caring)

    Orion was simply stating that Self-Healing isn't as big of a problem as endless healing is. Let's a face it, if a Dwight goes AFK the killer can beat him up, then drop him 4 times and beat him again endlessly with Dwight suffering no consequences as long as he isn't killed too quickly after. You can heal machete wounds endlessly, implying that the damage wasn't that bad to begin with.

    why does dwight always have to be the one that gets beat up?? :angry:

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    @xxaggieboyxx said:

    @Orion said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    self care, people dont realize it but its more crutch then decisive strike

    If I may disagree, Self Care is only a symptom of the issue, which is that hits don't matter in the long term when you can heal an unlimited number of times without any consequence.

    how is this disagreeing? if anything you are only proving my point even further. its crutch to a point people dont care at all when they get hit. your point isnt invalid. self care only makes it worse(getting hit and not caring)

    Because you're putting all the blame on Self Care when in fact, the problem is the whole healing mechanic.

  • xxaggieboyxx
    xxaggieboyxx Member Posts: 498

    @Orion said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:

    @Orion said:

    @xxaggieboyxx said:
    self care, people dont realize it but its more crutch then decisive strike

    If I may disagree, Self Care is only a symptom of the issue, which is that hits don't matter in the long term when you can heal an unlimited number of times without any consequence.

    how is this disagreeing? if anything you are only proving my point even further. its crutch to a point people dont care at all when they get hit. your point isnt invalid. self care only makes it worse(getting hit and not caring)

    Because you're putting all the blame on Self Care when in fact, the problem is the whole healing mechanic.

    you must really like to argue huh? i said and i quote "self care only makes it worse" meaning i am in fact not "putting all the blame on self care" i even agreed with you about said. so i dont see the problem here??

  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919
    In the long run Self Care can be annoying especially since everybody runs it...but I’d say Borrowed Time is pretty annoying when you HAVE to camp the last survivor who is right next to an exit gate and Claudette comes in for the Borrowed Time recuse. 

    Decisive only because an issue in SWF group with a four man DS team that are bodyblocking and they all have flashlights. If only that one Laurie has DS then it isn’t that big of a deal. 
  • thekiller490490
    thekiller490490 Member Posts: 1,164
    Adrenaline. It's crippling to get a hit or down only for it to be negated and btw they are a mile always as well.
  • madeashesjam
    madeashesjam Member Posts: 8
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  • Mr_Myers
    Mr_Myers Member Posts: 422

    Decisive strike, rutch that can't be avoided. I dont mind self care at all since it helps Nurse's caling out.

    I'm run Rancor now for a reason. I laughed my ass off when a Tbagging Claudette rn towards a pallet, droppd in on me. Spirit's Fury procced and I second I go to hit her the last gen gets popped. Que sweet sweet victory Soongebob

  • SteveyHooves
    SteveyHooves Member Posts: 246
    DS all the way on are chasing Laurie then boom dropped because I knew she was DS me. Self care I like because I find survivors healing with it. 
  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    DS.
    It's just not fun in any way.
    I don't feel like i'm having fun using it, since Survivor is going up against odds, which DS just nullifies.
    I DEFINITELY don't feel like i'm having fun facing it, since...obvious reasons. (I'd REALLY like to not have Enduring be standard in my builds, devs. You got rid of Brutal Strength being standard, now Enduring please.)

  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    Boss said:

    DS.
    It's just not fun in any way.
    I don't feel like i'm having fun using it, since Survivor is going up against odds, which DS just nullifies.
    I DEFINITELY don't feel like i'm having fun facing it, since...obvious reasons. (I'd REALLY like to not have Enduring be standard in my builds, devs. You got rid of Brutal Strength being standard, now Enduring please.)

    Currently there's a pallet bug that causes pallets to just push you, no stun.
  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    @Peasant said:
    Boss said:

    DS.

    It's just not fun in any way.

    I don't feel like i'm having fun using it, since Survivor is going up against odds, which DS just nullifies.

    I DEFINITELY don't feel like i'm having fun facing it, since...obvious reasons. (I'd REALLY like to not have Enduring be standard in my builds, devs. You got rid of Brutal Strength being standard, now Enduring please.)

    Currently there's a pallet bug that causes pallets to just push you, no stun.

    I know.

  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    DS without a doubt. An extra chase is far more detrimental than anything. Sloppy Butcher is now standard on all my Killers. Take a hit and self care, go ahead, see how long that stalls your ass out doing nothing. 
  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    SELF CARE all the way. Because it is a force multiplier to the rest.
    SB and DS would be way less annoying if they couldn't get healed so easy.

  • Eveline
    Eveline Member Posts: 2,340
    To me NOED and similar perks or add-ons that allow the killer to one hit you are the same as SC. 
  • ClogWench
    ClogWench Member Posts: 2,582
    Devisive Strike boils my blood cause it feels very unfair and has a direct, immediate impact on the killer, but Self Care is definitely more crutch, enough so that it's just basic assumption that everyone I'm facing runs it.
  • SteveyHooves
    SteveyHooves Member Posts: 246
    Eveline said:
    To me NOED and similar perks or add-ons that allow the killer to one hit you are the same as SC. 
    NOED there are other perks as well. MYC, Hex Haunted grounds, rancor... think there's more.
  • TheHourMan
    TheHourMan Member Posts: 1,052

    DS. None of them really upset me per se, but if any of them get me irritated in a match, it's that one.

  • TheLegendDyl4n1
    TheLegendDyl4n1 Member Posts: 1,493

    @Peasant said:
    https://www.strawpoll.me/16530925
    Feel free to leave your reasoning for your choice below!

    i hate the adrenaline when playing killer

  • Croquedead
    Croquedead Member Posts: 91

    Decisive. Kinda obvious.

  • iceman2kx
    iceman2kx Member Posts: 462

    DS:

    I don't mind the perk itself rather the impact it has on the game. I don't mind it so much if one person in the trial runs it, but when 2,3 or 4 people are running it, it becomes a little ridiculous. The trial already is completed fast enough and DS makes a hook take even longer which is devastating for a killer.

    I think a fair change to it is it can only be used after you've been hooked once or twice. The killer likely will know you have it, he can camp you if he chooses and there's effectively a yin and yang to this ability. Right now it's out of control.

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600

    Decisive Strike comes first in my mind. Frankly, it's only powerful because loops are powerful. If looping wasn't so damn easy to do, DS wouldn't even be an issue But that's the game we have.....

    Basically, it multiplies the chase time which is already too long.

    Self Care would be top of DS didn't exist. Many weaker killers would actually become viable if SC had limitations. Good luck finding said limitations that wouldn't cause a riot though.....