New players should absolutely NOT be matched with Vets. New player base will be kill..

Yeah, I don't get their mentality. Why would I play a game that isn't fun? The whole point of playing a video game is to have fun, even if that fun takes the form of PvP and beating enemies in a match.

But watch videos if the game isn't fun? If I wanted to watch videos, I wouldn't have launched DbD to play it in the first place. I would be watching videos. Play KYF? Okay, sure. Oh, but anyone I've ever had try the game walked away from it and said: Hell no.

Know why I've played Overwatch for the four years and three months since its launch day? Because it is fun. Same with almost 15 years of WoW. Or all the repeat play throughs of Borderlands 2.

It makes no sense to me to say: Well, this game isn't fun. Let me fire it up and watch some videos while it's going. I don't know about other gamers, but if a game isn't fun, it's collecting dust, likely getting uninstalled, and I'm going to go play a game that is fun and spend my money on that game studio. 🤷‍♂️

Who's 'they' anyway? Last I checked if I wasn't having fun in a game I just stopped playing it. If you're in 20-30 matches against pros and you're getting your face put into the dirt by Zeus carrying an Ancient tier perk. Odds are that you're probably just going to stop playing because you're learning nothing.

I shouldn't have to watch a video to learn the game at a decent pace, I should just be able to play the game like it was before this terrible patch.

They're just lucky I played for more than 2 hours before this patch came out so i can't refund it into the abyss.

I mean yeah, that's literally what I said to you with my earlier reply.

Voicing my frustration with a game I paid for that was good right before an update that made it worse is pretty valid, and I think many new players would have the same experience.

I learned from YouTube videos. They can do the same. That's how many learn the tiles.

Fair enough. Thank you for being civil. Once everyone's MMR settles, new players won't even see a skilled player for months. Got to give it time. I learned from YouTube videos on how to loop and play killer. After awhile, I adopted my own play style. YouTube tutorials like PainReliever are your best friend. He's good with looping videos and tile management for killers.

Edit: I said Painkiller xD wrong name

They also have a tutorial. If you don't understand the game after and refuse to watch a video then I'm not sure what you want? Get face camped by a new killer until you get to a better killer that just destroys you? Tutorials are there to help. They teach you the basics but online tutorials teach you advanced ways to play.

Not what I meant by the basics, you're talking about 3rd party youtube videos that teach you meta tactics that the game would otherwise not teach you.

Players should be matched up with players that match their level, they failed at that, but if they're not going to forcibly make an effort to correct it, but instead force that on the player, then they have failed.

I don't see how that's a complicated assessment.

Generally speaking when making a game, when you want to attract players you don't make it harder on them to adjust to the game, you make it relatively easier.

In no way am I saying that players should be hand held till eternity. But you're making it seem as though putting a novice against a heavy weight champion is going to yield positive results.

In actuality, all it does is create frustration.

You mention youtube video guides, but how many NEW players since the update are checking them out and not just checking out of the game because it's not fun?

I love it how the devs say the rank does not matter, but it's always the rank 12-20 players who prove themselves beginners in the game comapred to their friends in the team who may be closer to rank 1 and perform well in that match.

I have been paired against beginne survivors for the most part for all the time since the new Matchmaking took place and as a killer, I have been able to end matches every single time before they even began. It's absolutely boring and I feel disgusted. I am not even using any dirty tricks or playing tryhard, it's just that these players are not skilled enough to go against me, simple.

I used to get great matches against rank 1-5 players who understood the game before the new matchmaking took place, but now it's to a point where I no longer find joy playing a killer.

That's much ado about nothing, the whole point of a video game is to have fun. If you're not then it simply stops, people like me are not going to stick around for the long run because it's not worth it, and a major waste of the money I initially paid for.

So basically I have to wait Weeks to a month before I can actually play the game I paid for, in it's intended state, and that doesn't sound like a rip off to you? Especially when it was in my own opinion, 'fine' before the update?

It literally put my opinion from Good to bad in less than a week over a singular update.

Which is exactly why this thread started was because you were basically shadowing your experience over mine even though you didn't experience 'this' as a new player.

What could you possibly know of this in this instance?

This game is far more developed than it was before, and all it took was a singular update.

I was face camped 9/10 matches when I first started DBD. Before looping was a thing and everyone threw pallets down and ran to the next one. I'm sorry that you have to play a few matches until you get a game near your skill level. As least after a few games, it'll start to even out. Better than how I learned initially. They didn't even have tutorials or a training mode. You got thrown in a match and tried to stay alive.

People won't leave that easily. If they do then it's on them. No one plays a game and wins every time. If so, it would get stale. I started with some of the worst ways to experience this game and after 4 years, I'm still here through all the ups and downs of this game. If you leave that quick then good luck on your future game endeavors. Not everyone quits because they begin a match and get stomped. Otherwise, no one would play COD or any other game that is pvp.

You know you can also create a new account then if you want to ruin games from noobs.

This wont happen with mmr because the game see that you are an experienced player.

So mmr fix the problem with smurfs

I've said my thoughts on the matter. Also, the amount of times people post how the game is gonna die every month from a new change over the past 2 years and the game seems to actually grow instead makes it really hard for me to be indifferent to these type of posts. We've all had different starts in DBD. There are multiple ways to learn and get better.

If you don't want or care then why reply to me? You are fixated on MMR to be removed. It doesn't matter if it gets tweaked to help, I'm sure the posts will continue for the next month before people stop caring and go back to yelling about tunneling, camping and DS. It's a discussion. I said why it doesn't hurt the game. You said why it does. That's it.

It won't change my perception since I've played for years and never went against "new" killers. I got face camped. I was never mad. Then looping was created on YouTube and I practiced after watching and got better. If the only thing that makes your gaming experience the very best is going against someone who swings at the air a lot, runs into a wall or just face camps you then yes. It'll be terrible for 2 weeks to a month.

Otherwise, not everyone thinks the same way about this game. We all have our own opinions on what causes what to occur. If you keep thinking new players will die one time and just quit, they can refund it.

Remember the streamers that use to make a living off of deranking and bullying new killers lol. They would have hated MMR lol.

Based on what? I'm literally in front of you as one of the many players already saying they're quitting, and a new one at that.

You're not a standard and neither am I.

No where did I imply or state that players should win games all the time, where is that argument coming from?

That argument has no place here. You're ignoring the underlying theme here.

People leave games they don't enjoy, that's not rocket science that's just objective truth in video games.

If you enjoy getting stomped for 30 to 40 games before you finally get into matches without winning even one or two because you are severely under equipped then props to you.

There are plenty of PVP games that and have lost many players. Heroes of the storm dota league of legends

I generally view that as just masochism.

Again you do you man but saying that no one's going to leave is ridiculous at this point when people already have.

My reasoning is, I started out being face camped every match with no way to be rescued. Just like new players are being crushed by Rank 1s right now. It's how I started my experience with DBD. If you don't understand that, I really don't know a better way to explain it.

Having sympathy for new players being killed quickly and having almost the same learning curve that I had starting DBD? It's the same. I never told killers stop doing what you do. I didn't demand the devs to change how the game was played because I couldn't get a match very quickly?

It's like you think new survivors are helpless children who have never ever played a game where they're facing a strong opponent and got beat? This game might not be for everyone. If you can't have fun losing here and there, don't play a game.

If I decided to play the new COD and got stomped by max prestigers every match, would I quit because they had better guns and attachments? No? That would be stupid? I play until I get better and unlock the same #########? Just like new survivors level up and unlock meta perks.

Its a game. You will get stomped at some point. Whether it be now or later, it'll happen. That's the beauty of a PVP game. It's not a predetermined ending. It can go both ways. If you are literally not having fun, don't play the game and refund it. Torturing yourself over a game is a bit overboard.

all of those "brown" ranked survivors had multiple advanced perks. they DCd because you brought the ebony mori... not because you were good.