Scott brings up a fair point.

Yeah, if they don't fix this or turn it off soon they will lose a lot of new players. That is also the reason I will not be playing that much for now, I am constantly getting matched with new players. I seriously had like only 1 match so far where all players were actually experienced.

he says obvious things if devs dont understand this without tips from scottjund then we are having a problem

Even when I tried the MMR system before giving up, in large part due to also managing to get the Error 111 after a few matches, my queue times had not changed in the slightest. Killer queue was still a lobby simulator.

If that is the case. Is the system better or worse now? Because the forum is flooded with MMR complaints. Only positive is that MM has been a lot faster for me.

Sure it needs time to settle for everyone but if the system allows for rank 1s to play vs rank 20s then its broken.

I didn't see high ranks vs low ranks, on either side, as much before.

It hasn’t even been a full week since it was implemented. Myself, I wont judge it to harshly until a few weeks to a month in.

And then, if it doesn’t meet expectations, I’ll give some constructive feedback if I don’t see it already posted and wait for their tweaks to go into affect.

PRETTY GOOD JOB SO FAR!

The story repeats... Over and over again... They always manage to mess up more than previously and at that point that's actually quite hard to do,,, Well done BHVR!

LOL the guy above.

Not even a full week into it and they already are working to address it. That is a very fast response in my opinion.

I'm ######### dying lmfao

Hey remember literally last week when the pitchfork mob couldn't see their auras?

I swear 90% of us just go have a snack when the game goes weird.

My experience is limited, but for what it's worth, the new system is worse. I hadn't played long before MMR, but as a survivor (felt better for trying to learn the basics) I'd sometimes get matched with either groups of survivors way more experienced than me and/or killers who were. Still, that felt like the exception and not the norm.

With MMR, it leaned heavier, as a survivor, to either lvl 1 killers or lvl 20 killers with very little in between. Since I was halfway through my first tome, I decided to switch to killer to finish out the other pieces.

All I can say is WOW - every game I played as a lvl 20 killer, completely new to killer and a player with less than 50 hours in the game, every single match was at least 3 red ranks and a purple (sometimes green). I had one match with 3 lvl 1 survivors. There's not even anything to 'learn' from matches that extreme.

They happen too fast to develop much in the way of map familiarity.

"Chases" are almost non existent because of the lack of perks to compete with the survivor perks and still learning how to utilize a killer's power.

There's no chance to learn to 'apply map pressure' beyond the very basics.

Getting even a single hook felt like a victory, but a sad one.

I'm sure the experience was just as bad for the people who had to play against me and I thank the ones who were cool about it in the after game chat.

But the tl;dr here is that if 'new' killers are expected to slog through 10+ games *with each killer* to even begin to start getting matches that come close to their skill level, it's really going to turn off new killers. Their powers work fairly differently from what I can tell and it's going to take some experimentation for most people to find what suits them. But they can't even tell what suits them in matches like that.

I can only imagine what it's like for the vets to have to deal with it.

I mean they need factor in rank. rank 20 is not the same as rank 1 and properly measure skill.

Stop.

When you read the posts with the ranking system it was clear that almost everyone was asking for a new MM system

And they did just that, they Tryed to figure something out for a unique game design in term of MM.

I just think they didnt gave it enough time to collect datas

I couldn't see this working. I've been playing this game for over a year and am only devotion level 1, and I can tell you I'm not a "beginner" at this game whatsoever. You'd run into the same problem, possibly even worse than using rank was because it takes forever to level up devotion if you don't play this game for hours on end daily. That and at least rank took *some* skill to earn. Someone who is a complete potato at this game who just enjoys playing it alot would end up in "expert" matchmaking just from playing a lot yet not ever performing well in a match.

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so play killers you were either afraid or turned off of touching before for easy matches, thanks Opie

Scott made videos prior to the MMR implementation - when it was just being discussed.

Problem is if Scott can see the issues beforehand why can't the devs. No thought seems to have been given about protecting the ranks 20s from rank 1s. Split killer MMR without a higher base rating is silly - switch killer and a rank 1 can play rank 20s.

Do you follow stock analysts at all? Half of them say the stock market is going to lose points, they other half say it will gain points. The side that was correct always says "see, I told you this would happen". Then all of the people that follow them say "see, he told you this would happen". Funny though, I rarely see them step up and say they were wrong when they were.

A large part of the community was asking for a change. Just because one content creator (or a few if you want to tell me there were others) say they don't think a proposed solution will work, doesn't mean they shouldn't push out new systems. As a business, you cannot afford to never change. You also can't wait until each change you want to implement is perfect, because it never will be. But you should expect that whatever system they put in has continuous improvement. In not even one week of the MMR system going live, it seems based on what I have seen from a couple moderator posts, that they are already working to improve the system. One week. That is an extremely fast response to a new change.

Mmr has a place..its just having a few unintended effects..its still I'm its infancy

Again, I'm not quite sure the point of this post.