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Toxic Killers Beware

tennmio
tennmio Member Posts: 354
in General Discussions
I just ran into some toxic killers lately on ps4.
They behave like a farming killer till they gain ppls trust and then kill everyone.

Aside from that it's a game and all I think this is a real problem. It's so disgusting and low. Words don't really describe what I think about ppl that are doing this...

Did others ran into these "ppl" as well?
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  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Mister_xD said:
    you still farmed a ton of BP, didnt you?
    so why are you mad? instead of winning with 17k in a normal round, you lost with 17k+ in a fake-farm round...
    its all about the points, bro.

    You're assuming they got 17k though, some let you do 1 gen or so then just mow everyone down with a an insta down.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    @powerbats said:

    @Mister_xD said:
    you still farmed a ton of BP, didnt you?
    so why are you mad? instead of winning with 17k in a normal round, you lost with 17k+ in a fake-farm round...
    its all about the points, bro.

    You're assuming they got 17k though, some let you do 1 gen or so then just mow everyone down with a an insta down.

    honestly, thats not what i understand under "farming"... usually the killer will farm his BP, until he's full and then kill the survivors, so the survivors made a ton of pooints during that too.

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Mister_xD said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Mister_xD said:
    you still farmed a ton of BP, didnt you?
    so why are you mad? instead of winning with 17k in a normal round, you lost with 17k+ in a fake-farm round...
    its all about the points, bro.

    You're assuming they got 17k though, some let you do 1 gen or so then just mow everyone down with a an insta down.

    honestly, thats not what i understand under "farming"... usually the killer will farm his BP, until he's full and then kill the survivors, so the survivors made a ton of pooints during that too.

    It really depends, when the killers lets everyone farm to pretty much max i'll let them sac me by standing under a hook and or crouching under it.

    While there's a few others I know by name and playstyle that will pretend to let you farm then massacre you all and then say ez etc post game.

    Then killers wonder why survivors are toxic to them or that they don't like to take chances on farming. It's all because some jerkwad wants to act all cool like it took skill to troll people.

    The same as they act like it takes skill to repeatedly smack a survivor or last survivor on hook. ut then when they go up against good players it's a whole different ball game.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    @powerbats said:

    @Mister_xD said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Mister_xD said:
    you still farmed a ton of BP, didnt you?
    so why are you mad? instead of winning with 17k in a normal round, you lost with 17k+ in a fake-farm round...
    its all about the points, bro.

    You're assuming they got 17k though, some let you do 1 gen or so then just mow everyone down with a an insta down.

    honestly, thats not what i understand under "farming"... usually the killer will farm his BP, until he's full and then kill the survivors, so the survivors made a ton of pooints during that too.

    It really depends, when the killers lets everyone farm to pretty much max i'll let them sac me by standing under a hook and or crouching under it.

    While there's a few others I know by name and playstyle that will pretend to let you farm then massacre you all and then say ez etc post game.

    Then killers wonder why survivors are toxic to them or that they don't like to take chances on farming. It's all because some jerkwad wants to act all cool like it took skill to troll people.

    The same as they act like it takes skill to repeatedly smack a survivor or last survivor on hook. ut then when they go up against good players it's a whole different ball game.

    okay, i do understand that.
    but dont forget, that the killer lost a lot of possible BP too, so... he got a little punishment? maybe?

  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Mister_xD said:

    okay, i do understand that.
    but dont forget, that the killer lost a lot of possible BP too, so... he got a little punishment? maybe?

    That's true to an extent but if they get a fast match and then reque and do it again they more than make up for it.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    @powerbats said:

    @Mister_xD said:

    okay, i do understand that.
    but dont forget, that the killer lost a lot of possible BP too, so... he got a little punishment? maybe?

    That's true to an extent but if they get a fast match and then reque and do it again they more than make up for it.

    probaply...

  • Dabrownman1812
    Dabrownman1812 Member Posts: 1,857
    Never farm with a killer unless you know them. Never trust strangers, they are just after free pips. Should be common sense.
  • TheLegendDyl4n1
    TheLegendDyl4n1 Member Posts: 1,493

    @tennmio said:
    I just ran into some toxic killers lately on ps4.

    They behave like a farming killer till they gain ppls trust and then kill everyone.

    Aside from that it's a game and all I think this is a real problem. It's so disgusting and low. Words don't really describe what I think about ppl that are doing this...

    Did others ran into these "ppl" as well?

    i dont run into these people on xbox i sometimes "theoretically" if i kill all the survivors except for one and they arent toxic (teabag after stuns, flashlight clicking, anything to make me angry) i will let them finish the rest of the gens while periodically downing them and breaking the gen to get more BP until i get to full BP. and then i let them open both exit gates and then take them to the hatch. i will also go from pallet to pallet and show them totem spots. i will even let them live if i havent got my BBQ stack from them. i usually play killer around rank 15 so i get new survivors and pity them most of them arent toxic.

  • Mringasa
    Mringasa Member Posts: 980

    I always find it amusing when playing against people as Michael. I'll start Stalking them, they begin to run away and then turn back because I'm not chasing. Then they teabag a time or two and hop back on a generator. So amusing to suddenly pop T2 or T3 and then grab them off it. Not every Killer who is standing there watching you is a friend!

    Anyone who pretends to farm, then just kills everyone is pretty trashy. I don't know how difficult it is to play Killer on the ps4, but that's about scraping the bottom of the barrel. But really, you can't trust any Killer. Just like Survivors, they're out to do their "job" and get some phat BP as well. You have to expect anything from them, just like Survivors will do whatever they can for an advantage. It's the way the game is played. It might be toxic and low, but if it's in the game there is nothing you can really do about it. Looked at from the Killer's angle, it's a pretty damn good strategy.

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    Why did you trust the guy who's trying to kill you?

  • Oblitiry
    Oblitiry Member Posts: 487
    edited September 2018
    http://allaboutfrogs.org/stories/scorpion.html

    Read it, learn from it, move on.
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @Orion said:
    Why did you trust the guy who's trying to kill you?

    The Entity said he had free stuff, he didn't mention it involved being sacrificed on an uncleaned hook.

  • Mister_Holdout
    Mister_Holdout Member Posts: 3,144

    Ha Ha Ha That's funny.

  • DemonDaddy
    DemonDaddy Member Posts: 4,167
    Don't get upset because the killer holding a murder weapon says "lets be friends" then kills you anyway. You wouldn't trust Charles Manson with a butcher knife would you? But it's alright he looked at you with his cold unfeeling eyes and said you're my best friend.

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600
    edited September 2018

    You got played and your mad you fell for it.....

    And this makes the killer toxic how exactly?

    I think the guy is brilliant myself.

    BTW, I generally don't trust farming killers. I usually just open the gates and get out. I prefer facing the ruthless types that force me to play my best. In fact, I used to report the farmers regularly as there was a button for it.

  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    edited September 2018
    Mister_xD said:

    you still farmed a ton of BP, didnt you?
    so why are you mad? instead of winning with 17k in a normal round, you lost with 17k+ in a fake-farm round...
    its all about the points, bro.

    Nah it wasn't farming. I said that already.
    Farming is when everyone gets about the most possible points.
    As you seem not to know, unhooking survivors and surviving is what gives survivors most points.

    That one was standing next to the 3 others healing each other,  hit each once and let them heal. That was going on for a bit. Then (like by accident) the one being healed got hit and went to death status. Killer went further away and the dead one got healed back to hurt status. Killer came back and gave each survivor 1 hit went off a bit (2 healing one and 1 doing selfcare).
    Killer downed the one doing selfcare went off a little came back again and downed the 3 ppl. And then tunneled me hooked me. And hooked all the others. All gens except 1 were done. I didn't sense the killer the whole round, nobody got chased or hurt the whole game. I started wondering that's when I got to the spot with the killer standing next to the 3 of them seemingly farming. Before I saw them I thought the killer was one of the poor ones gotten stuck somewhere on the map not being able to move.

    What happened was that there was nobody left to get anyone down cause that one started with getting me hooked and then going for the three on the ground. So everyone died on the hook with points about 3000 to 5000.
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  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    Mister_xD said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Mister_xD said:
    you still farmed a ton of BP, didnt you?
    so why are you mad? instead of winning with 17k in a normal round, you lost with 17k+ in a fake-farm round...
    its all about the points, bro.

    You're assuming they got 17k though, some let you do 1 gen or so then just mow everyone down with a an insta down.

    honestly, thats not what i understand under "farming"... usually the killer will farm his BP, until he's full and then kill the survivors, so the survivors made a ton of pooints during that too.

    Nah farming is an nice equal play. Where everyone gets the most points possible. Usually the Killer wants to get a trophy like far kills with the huntress or s.th like that.
    And as far as I experienced it till now lately it does not include killing the survivor. I means getting every survivor on the hook twice but then they can go.
    As survivors get most points for unhooking and surviving it would be stupid to go for whatever it's called what you described.
  • serabeth90
    serabeth90 Member Posts: 100

    Farming is against the rules and (as far as I know) a bannable offense. If the killer allegedly pretends like you guys are farming and you choose to participate, it's your own fault if you get killed instead.

  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    FrenziedRoach said:

    You got played and your mad you fell for it.....

    And this makes the killer toxic how exactly?

    I think the guy is brilliant myself.

    BTW, I generally don't trust farming killers. I usually just open the gates and get out. I prefer facing the ruthless types that force me to play my best. In fact, I used to report the farmers regularly as there was a button for it.

    What you say is quite a thing... so now it's the fault of the ppl trusting others if they get hurt not the ones doing it?
    Hmmm. Hope you don't really think it's the fault of the victim for real. That's an awful way of thinking in general.
    And if you think that, please keep away from ppl and don't tell them your opinion, like just never...
  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    Mister_xD said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Mister_xD said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Mister_xD said:
    you still farmed a ton of BP, didnt you?
    so why are you mad? instead of winning with 17k in a normal round, you lost with 17k+ in a fake-farm round...
    its all about the points, bro.

    You're assuming they got 17k though, some let you do 1 gen or so then just mow everyone down with a an insta down.

    honestly, thats not what i understand under "farming"... usually the killer will farm his BP, until he's full and then kill the survivors, so the survivors made a ton of pooints during that too.

    It really depends, when the killers lets everyone farm to pretty much max i'll let them sac me by standing under a hook and or crouching under it.

    While there's a few others I know by name and playstyle that will pretend to let you farm then massacre you all and then say ez etc post game.

    Then killers wonder why survivors are toxic to them or that they don't like to take chances on farming. It's all because some jerkwad wants to act all cool like it took skill to troll people.

    The same as they act like it takes skill to repeatedly smack a survivor or last survivor on hook. ut then when they go up against good players it's a whole different ball game.

    okay, i do understand that.
    but dont forget, that the killer lost a lot of possible BP too, so... he got a little punishment? maybe?


    Mister_xD said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Mister_xD said:

    @powerbats said:

    @Mister_xD said:
    you still farmed a ton of BP, didnt you?
    so why are you mad? instead of winning with 17k in a normal round, you lost with 17k+ in a fake-farm round...
    its all about the points, bro.

    You're assuming they got 17k though, some let you do 1 gen or so then just mow everyone down with a an insta down.

    honestly, thats not what i understand under "farming"... usually the killer will farm his BP, until he's full and then kill the survivors, so the survivors made a ton of pooints during that too.

    It really depends, when the killers lets everyone farm to pretty much max i'll let them sac me by standing under a hook and or crouching under it.

    While there's a few others I know by name and playstyle that will pretend to let you farm then massacre you all and then say ez etc post game.

    Then killers wonder why survivors are toxic to them or that they don't like to take chances on farming. It's all because some jerkwad wants to act all cool like it took skill to troll people.

    The same as they act like it takes skill to repeatedly smack a survivor or last survivor on hook. ut then when they go up against good players it's a whole different ball game.

    okay, i do understand that.
    but dont forget, that the killer lost a lot of possible BP too, so... he got a little punishment? maybe?

    It's not only about the bloodpoints... . At least not for me. It's about being like that to other ppl, even if it's only unknown individuals in an online game.
    I don't like the idea of ppl behaving like that because
    -they like it to piss others off?
    -they like to crash ppls trust in others?
    -they never feel power in the real world and try to feel it online thru manipulating?
    Most of this is the kind of behavior psychologists call psychopathy/sociopathy.

    That is creepy at least.
  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    Dabrownman1812 said:
    Never farm with a killer unless you know them. Never trust strangers, they are just after free pips. Should be common sense.
    What a dark bad world you're drawing.
    What a pity...
    But I met a lot of Killers that are quite normal ppl. You know with feelings, honor, empathy, trust and everything else that makes us human ;)
    There are many
  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    Mringasa said:

    I always find it amusing when playing against people as Michael. I'll start Stalking them, they begin to run away and then turn back because I'm not chasing. Then they teabag a time or two and hop back on a generator. So amusing to suddenly pop T2 or T3 and then grab them off it. Not every Killer who is standing there watching you is a friend!

    Anyone who pretends to farm, then just kills everyone is pretty trashy. I don't know how difficult it is to play Killer on the ps4, but that's about scraping the bottom of the barrel. But really, you can't trust any Killer. Just like Survivors, they're out to do their "job" and get some phat BP as well. You have to expect anything from them, just like Survivors will do whatever they can for an advantage. It's the way the game is played. It might be toxic and low, but if it's in the game there is nothing you can really do about it. Looked at from the Killer's angle, it's a pretty damn good strategy.

    "Strategy"? OMG...
    I can't see how it's a "strategy" in any way. To gain the trust of s.o. just to finish them off after being satisfied. That's not only toxic behavior, that is what you find in the mind of psychopaths/sociopaths.
    I think that is sick...
  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    Orion said:

    Why did you trust the guy who's trying to kill you?

    Why would a normal healthy person try to gain s.o. trust to kill them easily?

    I'm playing Killer as well. I'd never do that. It's just so sick and disgusting to me. Why would anyone do it? Like what the heck would they think about their own behavior?
    Healthy ppl could never be happy or proud "winning" like that.
    You not only throw away your integrity, pride and selfworth, but also your humanity.

    And that for a game? For some bloodpoints in a game?
    Why would one do that? That's far from being worth that.

  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    DemonDaddy said:
    Don't get upset because the killer holding a murder weapon says "lets be friends" then kills you anyway. You wouldn't trust Charles Manson with a butcher knife would you? But it's alright he looked at you with his cold unfeeling eyes and said you're my best friend.

    I'm playing as Killer as well and lots of my friends do, too.
    It's not like we're nice killers. I usually hook all 4 survivors. But I'd never let them think I'm their friend if my intention is to hook them.
    Well as you see there are real and normal ppl behind the screen. 
    It's not like those killers are usually imprisoned psychopathic murderers XD.
  • MegMain98
    MegMain98 Member Posts: 2,919

    If I wind up farming BP I’ll hook every survivor twice and just let them all escape unless somebody is crouching near the hook and pointing to it telling me to kill them. Some survivors will do that if they are feeling nice.

    However I have only farmed BP like three times. It either has to be a double BP event or I ask the survivors because I’m going for a trophy.

  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    I was writing in the survivors section cause I wanted to share what I learned and wanted to warn others and maybe getting a good explanation.
    I'd be happy if the main Killer / only Killer and those making fun of it (you guys feel low selfworth, learn s.th to be proud of it instead of trying to drag others down to where you are.. not working anyway ;)) just stayed out if they got nothing useful/normal to say.

    Where is the need in telling me (or anyone else for that matter) something harsh, rude, insulting etc. if my post made clear that I am somehow surprised, shocked and obviously not ok with what happened there.

    Ppl that lack the ability to say s.th. that isn't hostile or destructive should rather stay quiet.
  • DeadByFlashlight
    DeadByFlashlight Member Posts: 1,642
    edited September 2018

    @tennmio said:
    I just ran into some toxic killers lately on ps4.

    They behave like a farming killer till they gain ppls trust and then kill everyone.

    Aside from that it's a game and all I think this is a real problem. It's so disgusting and low. Words don't really describe what I think about ppl that are doing this...

    Did others ran into these "ppl" as well?

    Oh gosh, the killer actually killed you?

    Damn, we need to perma bann this guy, do you have his PSN ID?

  • FrenziedRoach
    FrenziedRoach Member Posts: 2,600

    @tennmio said:
    FrenziedRoach said:

    You got played and your mad you fell for it.....

    And this makes the killer toxic how exactly?

    I think the guy is brilliant myself.

    BTW, I generally don't trust farming killers. I usually just open the gates and get out. I prefer facing the ruthless types that force me to play my best. In fact, I used to report the farmers regularly as there was a button for it.

    What you say is quite a thing... so now it's the fault of the ppl trusting others if they get hurt not the ones doing it?

    Hmmm. Hope you don't really think it's the fault of the victim for real. That's an awful way of thinking in general.

    And if you think that, please keep away from ppl and don't tell them your opinion, like just never...

    If you think for a moment I blame a victim of a real crime, you are sorely mistaken. Unlike you, I can separate reality from a video game. If you are unable to separate the rules of society vs the rules of a video game - please uninstall and never play video games until you get your head on straight.

    It goes against the spirit of the game to farm with the killer - but it's well within the spirit of the game to mind game and trick the survivors. You got played and that killer was brilliant for playing to your trust. Deal with it!

  • serabeth90
    serabeth90 Member Posts: 100

    @tennmio said:
    FrenziedRoach said:

    You got played and your mad you fell for it.....

    And this makes the killer toxic how exactly?

    I think the guy is brilliant myself.

    BTW, I generally don't trust farming killers. I usually just open the gates and get out. I prefer facing the ruthless types that force me to play my best. In fact, I used to report the farmers regularly as there was a button for it.

    What you say is quite a thing... so now it's the fault of the ppl trusting others if they get hurt not the ones doing it?

    Hmmm. Hope you don't really think it's the fault of the victim for real. That's an awful way of thinking in general.

    And if you think that, please keep away from ppl and don't tell them your opinion, like just never...

    Okay, now you're either trolling or have some serious emotional disturbance where you can't separate a game from reality. If anything, it's sick for anyone to compare a violent, gory game like DBD to real life.

  • SteveyHooves
    SteveyHooves Member Posts: 246
    You know killers need points and you can max put all your points just by using the killer the killer can't. Be a bro and let him kill you while farming. So he can get those sacrifice points. Just a tip for survivors. Killers don't kill survivors without there say so. Then you're just an #########. 
  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    serabeth90 said:

    @tennmio said:
    FrenziedRoach said:

    You got played and your mad you fell for it.....

    And this makes the killer toxic how exactly?

    I think the guy is brilliant myself.

    BTW, I generally don't trust farming killers. I usually just open the gates and get out. I prefer facing the ruthless types that force me to play my best. In fact, I used to report the farmers regularly as there was a button for it.

    What you say is quite a thing... so now it's the fault of the ppl trusting others if they get hurt not the ones doing it?

    Hmmm. Hope you don't really think it's the fault of the victim for real. That's an awful way of thinking in general.

    And if you think that, please keep away from ppl and don't tell them your opinion, like just never...

    Okay, now you're either trolling or have some serious emotional disturbance where you can't separate a game from reality. If anything, it's sick for anyone to compare a violent, gory game like DBD to real life.



    How someone behaves is part of their character, it is a fragment of themselves. Ppl decide how to act based on a lot of things like experience and moral etc. While *playing* a Killer on a game you are still yourself (with the morality and concious you got) your not becoming the Killer. Ergo however you decide to play, this is based on yourself as a person. You are the one deciding on how to play. Fair or not that depends on what kind of person you are.

    This means if you decide to trick ppl (even on a game) you as a person must be ok with forcing mind games on other (unknown) ppl for your own purpose.
    To be ok with this behavior implies that this person eighter thinks there is nothing wrong with it,  they don't mind it or -worst case- they do it because it satisfies them. Gaining unknown ppls trust (yes behind that survivor-characters there are real ppl moving them... therefore you are obviously doing these sick "mind games" with the real ppl behind the screen)  with the intention of abusing it, in order to achieve a self set goal, isn't turning into a decent behavior only because it's online/a game.

    Your behavior and decisions are based on your personality and reciprocally form your personality.
    Your decicions stay real. What is 'ok' for you as a person is real. The game doesn't change who you are. Playing a Killer doesn't change your personality or what you believe is right, decent and fair.
    You can't blame the game for
    -your own behavior in it
    -the way you as a person decide to play
    -for the way how you treat unknown ppl online

    The game doesn't change a thing you are stil responsible for everything your decions and acts. Nothing changes that.
    What's the right thing to do  in the real world isn't different from the right thing in a game.
    There is no difference.
    Same goes for decicions and behavior.
    What is "wrong" and "not ok" in the real world is just as "wrong" and "not ok" in a game.


  • PhantomMask20763
    PhantomMask20763 Member Posts: 5,176

    Killers beware.... you're in for a scare!!!

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270
    FrenziedRoach said:

    You got played and your mad you fell for it.....

    And this makes the killer toxic how exactly?

    I think the guy is brilliant myself.

    BTW, I generally don't trust farming killers. I usually just open the gates and get out. I prefer facing the ruthless types that force me to play my best. In fact, I used to report the farmers regularly as there was a button for it.

    I agree, it's a valid move. Happened to me too, I fell for it and got hooked promptly. Had a good laugh after game.
  • Peasant
    Peasant Member Posts: 4,104
    edited October 2018
    tennmio said:
    Mringasa said:

    I always find it amusing when playing against people as Michael. I'll start Stalking them, they begin to run away and then turn back because I'm not chasing. Then they teabag a time or two and hop back on a generator. So amusing to suddenly pop T2 or T3 and then grab them off it. Not every Killer who is standing there watching you is a friend!

    Anyone who pretends to farm, then just kills everyone is pretty trashy. I don't know how difficult it is to play Killer on the ps4, but that's about scraping the bottom of the barrel. But really, you can't trust any Killer. Just like Survivors, they're out to do their "job" and get some phat BP as well. You have to expect anything from them, just like Survivors will do whatever they can for an advantage. It's the way the game is played. It might be toxic and low, but if it's in the game there is nothing you can really do about it. Looked at from the Killer's angle, it's a pretty damn good strategy.

    "Strategy"? OMG...
    I can't see how it's a "strategy" in any way. To gain the trust of s.o. just to finish them off after being satisfied. That's not only toxic behavior, that is what you find in the mind of psychopaths/sociopaths.
    I think that is sick...
    They are playing as the killer. Please enlighten me on how a psychotic killer isn't sick.

    After all, the Clown for example, sounds sick in more ways than one.
  • Zanfer
    Zanfer Member Posts: 647

    why would you ever trust the killer 4head

  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    George_Soros said:
    FrenziedRoach said:

    You got played and your mad you fell for it.....

    And this makes the killer toxic how exactly?

    I think the guy is brilliant myself.

    BTW, I generally don't trust farming killers. I usually just open the gates and get out. I prefer facing the ruthless types that force me to play my best. In fact, I used to report the farmers regularly as there was a button for it.

    I agree, it's a valid move. Happened to me too, I fell for it and got hooked promptly. Had a good laugh after game.
    How could he "mind game you" and hook you promptly? That doesn't sound like what I encountered.

  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    edited October 2018
    Peasant said:
    tennmio said:
    Mringasa said:

    I always find it amusing when playing against people as Michael. I'll start Stalking them, they begin to run away and then turn back because I'm not chasing. Then they teabag a time or two and hop back on a generator. So amusing to suddenly pop T2 or T3 and then grab them off it. Not every Killer who is standing there watching you is a friend!

    Anyone who pretends to farm, then just kills everyone is pretty trashy. I don't know how difficult it is to play Killer on the ps4, but that's about scraping the bottom of the barrel. But really, you can't trust any Killer. Just like Survivors, they're out to do their "job" and get some phat BP as well. You have to expect anything from them, just like Survivors will do whatever they can for an advantage. It's the way the game is played. It might be toxic and low, but if it's in the game there is nothing you can really do about it. Looked at from the Killer's angle, it's a pretty damn good strategy.

    "Strategy"? OMG...
    I can't see how it's a "strategy" in any way. To gain the trust of s.o. just to finish them off after being satisfied. That's not only toxic behavior, that is what you find in the mind of psychopaths/sociopaths.
    I think that is sick...
    They are playing as the killer. Please enlighten me on how a psychotic killer isn't sick.

    After all, the Clown for example, sounds sick in more ways than one.
    As I said I'm playing Killer, too. But I wouldn't trick the survivors into thinking I was up to farm with them when I wasn't. I've not once farmed with survivors but if I did I wouldn't use it to get them all killed. That is just so sick.
    Why would I even want to do that?
    Not for Bloodpoints obviously cause I get much more hunting the survivors down one by one.

    So what would be my reason tricking them into thinking I was a farming killer when my real intention was to down them all 'at once' and hook them?
    Someone able to explain that?

    I just can't think of any reason to do this at all. Unless it's because the person doing it, is enjoying it because of a mental illness.
  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    edited October 2018
    Peasant said:
    tennmio said:
    Mringasa said:

    I always find it amusing when playing against people as Michael. I'll start Stalking them, they begin to run away and then turn back because I'm not chasing. Then they teabag a time or two and hop back on a generator. So amusing to suddenly pop T2 or T3 and then grab them off it. Not every Killer who is standing there watching you is a friend!

    Anyone who pretends to farm, then just kills everyone is pretty trashy. I don't know how difficult it is to play Killer on the ps4, but that's about scraping the bottom of the barrel. But really, you can't trust any Killer. Just like Survivors, they're out to do their "job" and get some phat BP as well. You have to expect anything from them, just like Survivors will do whatever they can for an advantage. It's the way the game is played. It might be toxic and low, but if it's in the game there is nothing you can really do about it. Looked at from the Killer's angle, it's a pretty damn good strategy.

    "Strategy"? OMG...
    I can't see how it's a "strategy" in any way. To gain the trust of s.o. just to finish them off after being satisfied. That's not only toxic behavior, that is what you find in the mind of psychopaths/sociopaths.
    I think that is sick...
    They are playing as the killer. Please enlighten me on how a psychotic killer isn't sick.

    After all, the Clown for example, sounds sick in more ways than one.
    I never said that a psychotic Killer wasn't sick.
    I'm playing as a Killer, too and many others I know but for Bloodpoints. It's much easier and faster to get them as a Killer.
    Playing a Killer on dbd is not necessarily sick.

    But I understand that point with the Clown.
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  • Mringasa
    Mringasa Member Posts: 980

    @tennmio said:
    Peasant said:


    tennmio said:


    Mringasa said:

    I always find it amusing when playing against people as Michael. I'll start Stalking them, they begin to run away and then turn back because I'm not chasing. Then they teabag a time or two and hop back on a generator. So amusing to suddenly pop T2 or T3 and then grab them off it. Not every Killer who is standing there watching you is a friend!

    Anyone who pretends to farm, then just kills everyone is pretty trashy. I don't know how difficult it is to play Killer on the ps4, but that's about scraping the bottom of the barrel. But really, you can't trust any Killer. Just like Survivors, they're out to do their "job" and get some phat BP as well. You have to expect anything from them, just like Survivors will do whatever they can for an advantage. It's the way the game is played. It might be toxic and low, but if it's in the game there is nothing you can really do about it. Looked at from the Killer's angle, it's a pretty damn good strategy.

    "Strategy"? OMG...

    I can't see how it's a "strategy" in any way. To gain the trust of s.o. just to finish them off after being satisfied. That's not only toxic behavior, that is what you find in the mind of psychopaths/sociopaths.

    I think that is sick...

    They are playing as the killer. Please enlighten me on how a psychotic killer isn't sick.

    After all, the Clown for example, sounds sick in more ways than one.

    I never said that a psychotic Killer wasn't sick.

    I'm playing as a Killer, too and many others I know but for Bloodpoints. It's much easier and faster to get them as a Killer.

    Playing a Killer on dbd is not necessarily sick.

    But I understand that point with the Clown.

    You have to admit though it is a good strategy. Twisted, warped, and inherently ######### up, but a good strategy. Most Survivors love those relaxed games where a Killer isn't trying for a 4k. The ones where you get great BP, but the push to compete isn't that great. To take that and turn it around on the Survivors and get a 4k out of it... toxic AF, pretty damn nasty, but a really good strategy.

    Definitely not something I would do personally, as I don't even bother to camp, tunnel, or whatever buzzword is the feelsbadman thing of the month, but I can chuckle and say "Yeah, that worked out nicely didn't it?" to a slick bit of planned nastiness from another person.

  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    edited October 2018
    Zanfer said:

    why would you ever trust the killer 4head

    It's not a real Killer.
    Just s.o. who plays a character in a game.
    I thought it was a normal person playing an online game to have fun like all the rest of us.

    Why should I assume that a stranger, with the same intention (having fun in a game), is okay with tricking others through sick mind games?

    That's not really what I usually expect from ppl. I do know a few of them are playing unfair (tunneling and camping).
    But sick mind games are really on a different page.

    This kind of behavior isn't even in the repertoire of a normal person. Ppl right in their mind would never even think of doing s.th like that. It just wouldn't cross their minds let alone following that idea.

    At least that goes for the majority of the ppl I know.

    But it seems, by what some of you guys are writing, that you are living far away. Somewhere where there is no common sense, moral, dignity, honor, trust, empathy, healthy minds and/or other human things that I am used to.

    Well at least I should call myself happy being far far away from the ppl with the twisted ideas of what is ok.

    Sry your environment is ok with that so you had to adjust.
  • SoylentPixie
    SoylentPixie Member Posts: 1,192

    psychopaths/sociopaths..really?

    I like to keep it civil most of the time, but this is honestly ridiculous. I've heard of making mountains out of mole hills before but this is right up there with mount Everest.

    This is a game, you got fooled in a GAME, and this has led you to describe a whole bunch of people who don't agree with your assessment as immoral, lacking dignity, trust, empathy and healthy minds.......who on earth do you think you are to decide such based on very limited information?

    Your fixation on this event is unhealthy, and your knee jerk reaction to brand this person as sick?...well i hate to say it but its a little creepy.

    Ok maybe it was a crappy thing to do, tbh i don't really identify because on the rare occasions a killer wants to farm, i'll go stand under a hook at the end and let them get their hook points. However you cannot make some pseudo psychological assessment based on an action in a video game, not one that is reliable, same as you can't make assumptions about a group of people who disagree with you based on a forum post.

    I have no issues with you getting P.O'd at a killer for doing this, each to their own reactions, but your snap judgements are out of line and are based on minuscule evidence.

    People don't lack the capacity to be decent just because they don't agree with you.

  • Wolf74
    Wolf74 Member Posts: 2,959

    @tennmio said:
    I just ran into some toxic killers lately on ps4.

    They behave like a farming killer till they gain ppls trust and then kill everyone.

    Aside from that it's a game and all I think this is a real problem. It's so disgusting and low. Words don't really describe what I think about ppl that are doing this...

    Did others ran into these "ppl" as well?

    Working with the killer aka "farming" is a reportable offense to begin with, so you better don't complain that you got cheated while you cheated.

  • George_Soros
    George_Soros Member Posts: 2,270

    @tennmio said:
    George_Soros said:


    FrenziedRoach said:

    You got played and your mad you fell for it.....

    And this makes the killer toxic how exactly?

    I think the guy is brilliant myself.

    BTW, I generally don't trust farming killers. I usually just open the gates and get out. I prefer facing the ruthless types that force me to play my best. In fact, I used to report the farmers regularly as there was a button for it.

    I agree, it's a valid move. Happened to me too, I fell for it and got hooked promptly. Had a good laugh after game.

    How could he "mind game you" and hook you promptly? That doesn't sound like what I encountered.

    Simple, made me believe he's up to some farming, so I gave up loopin' (that was when 3 others were dead already).
    Then I was chainsawed. Again, very funny. These are such precious moments of DBD: selling your teammate out when only two of you are left, hoping the killer will let you go, or as survivor, running to your last remaining teammate who is clearly hatchcamping, waiting for you to die, and creating some loud noise - "if I go down, you go down with me arsehole" :chuffed:
    I find these moments of desperation, treachery, stupidity and so on hilarious. DBD ain't CS:GO (meh) or Team Fortress, there's much more to it drama-wise. Just don't take it too seriously and learn to appreciate comedic moments, even if you end up getting the short end of the stick.

  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    edited October 2018

    SoylentPixie said:

    psychopaths/sociopaths..really?

    I like to keep it civil most of the time, but this is honestly ridiculous. I've heard of making mountains out of mole hills before but this is right up there with mount Everest.

    This is a game, you got fooled in a GAME, and this has led you to describe a whole bunch of people who don't agree with your assessment as immoral, lacking dignity, trust, empathy and healthy minds.......who on earth do you think you are to decide such based on very limited information?

    Your fixation on this event is unhealthy, and your knee jerk reaction to brand this person as sick?...well i hate to say it but its a little creepy.

    Ok maybe it was a crappy thing to do, tbh i don't really identify because on the rare occasions a killer wants to farm, i'll go stand under a hook at the end and let them get their hook points. However you cannot make some pseudo psychological assessment based on an action in a video game, not one that is reliable, same as you can't make assumptions about a group of people who disagree with you based on a forum post.

    I have no issues with you getting P.O'd at a killer for doing this, each to their own reactions, but your snap judgements are out of line and are based on minuscule evidence.

    People don't lack the capacity to be decent just because they don't agree with you.

    This "it's a game" again.
    As if every kind of action is ok if it done in a game cause you don't have ppl face to face.

    If s.o. is ok with tricking ppl face to face one wouldn't question that this is sick.
    I honestly don't get why everyone is going on about how it is ok to act like a complete ***** when it is in a game.
    It's not ok where I live and I'm happy about that.

    I know no one will ever be able to confirm my conclusion but that is (fortunate for us) cause the n would never be big enough to actually try to proof significance. Fortunate because there is only few ppl doing that.

    But this somehow (not valid or reliable I know) supports what I said about normal ppl not being ok with acting like that. As we can see it's only a few doing it.

    I sure can make any assumption I want- as anybody else can-. You did it to me too, so you should know.

    What is interesting that you (like others) aren't giving any valid explanation as to why anyone right in their mind would do that.
    I'd love to hear one. I'd take that into account and I might come to another conclusion afterwards.

    As you are so full of knowledge and proof to why my theory can't be right, this is probably an easy thing to do.

    So:
    Why would s.o. right in their mind and with moral/integrity trick another person to their advantage in that game?

    Why would s.o. right in their mind and with moral/integrity think that it's ok to trick s.o else in a game?

    I'd like to hear your Explanation for that behaviour / way of thinking.


  • tennmio
    tennmio Member Posts: 354
    SoylentPixie said:

    psychopaths/sociopaths..really?

    I like to keep it civil most of the time, but this is honestly ridiculous. I've heard of making mountains out of mole hills before but this is right up there with mount Everest.

    This is a game, you got fooled in a GAME, and this has led you to describe a whole bunch of people who don't agree with your assessment as immoral, lacking dignity, trust, empathy and healthy minds.......who on earth do you think you are to decide such based on very limited information?

    Your fixation on this event is unhealthy, and your knee jerk reaction to brand this person as sick?...well i hate to say it but its a little creepy.

    Ok maybe it was a crappy thing to do, tbh i don't really identify because on the rare occasions a killer wants to farm, i'll go stand under a hook at the end and let them get their hook points. However you cannot make some pseudo psychological assessment based on an action in a video game, not one that is reliable, same as you can't make assumptions about a group of people who disagree with you based on a forum post.

    I have no issues with you getting P.O'd at a killer for doing this, each to their own reactions, but your snap judgements are out of line and are based on minuscule evidence.

    People don't lack the capacity to be decent just because they don't agree with you.

    Nice psychological use of language ;)
    You're quite good at saying that I'm a disturbed person, without using the words.

    Resumed you said that my assumption are wrong and crazy.
    That's your opinion / conclusion and that's ok.
    You point out that I'm wrong  saying I lack evidence.

    I think I explained why I come to my assumptions and that I don't understand why s.o. would do that.
    As you are so absolutly sure that I am wrong and that ppl don't have to lack moral/integrity or some issues if they are ok with tricking others for their own advantage I assume you'll have no trouble explaining it to me.

    Why (a reason) would s.o. decent with moral / integrity and a healthy mind, trick other ppl to their advantage in a game?

    Why (a reason) would s.o. decent with moral / integrity and a healthy mind, be ok with s.o. tricking other ppl to their advantage in a game?

    I'd like to know you assumptions/ explanation to that.


  • SoylentPixie
    SoylentPixie Member Posts: 1,192

    @tennmio said:
    SoylentPixie said:

    psychopaths/sociopaths..really?

    I like to keep it civil most of the time, but this is honestly ridiculous. I've heard of making mountains out of mole hills before but this is right up there with mount Everest.

    This is a game, you got fooled in a GAME, and this has led you to describe a whole bunch of people who don't agree with your assessment as immoral, lacking dignity, trust, empathy and healthy minds.......who on earth do you think you are to decide such based on very limited information?

    Your fixation on this event is unhealthy, and your knee jerk reaction to brand this person as sick?...well i hate to say it but its a little creepy.

    Ok maybe it was a crappy thing to do, tbh i don't really identify because on the rare occasions a killer wants to farm, i'll go stand under a hook at the end and let them get their hook points. However you cannot make some pseudo psychological assessment based on an action in a video game, not one that is reliable, same as you can't make assumptions about a group of people who disagree with you based on a forum post.

    I have no issues with you getting P.O'd at a killer for doing this, each to their own reactions, but your snap judgements are out of line and are based on minuscule evidence.

    People don't lack the capacity to be decent just because they don't agree with you.

    Nice psychological use of language ;)

    You're quite good at saying that I'm a disturbed person, without using the words.

    I have no issue saying someone is disturbed if i think they are disturbed, but i don't know you well enough to know whether or not you are actually disturbed, and that is my point in a nutshell. I believe i stated that i personally found your assumptions ridiculous and your fixation on a simple act in a video game seemed (to me) a little creepy. I won't make an assumption that you are disturbed simply from a few posts, i don't know who you are in a day to day life, how you treat people or how you socially interact with strangers, and it would be ridiculous for me to try. If you inferred such an accusation from my post....well that's really your issue not mine.

    Resumed you said that my assumption are wrong and crazy.

    That's your opinion / conclusion and that's ok.

    You point out that I'm wrong  saying I lack evidence.

    I think I explained why I come to my assumptions and that I don't understand why s.o. would do that.

    As you are so absolutly sure that I am wrong and that ppl don't have to lack moral/integrity or some issues if they are ok with tricking others for their own advantage I assume you'll have no trouble explaining it to me.

    Sure. Part of the reason people like video games is that it allows them to do something they wouldn't normally do. It isn't really rocket science to be fair. I'm pretty sure half the players in GTA multiplayer wouldn't really hit a hooker with a baseball bat or blow up a police station. What compels us to do dumb things like that in a video game is an inner immaturity that we freely exercise in order to blow off steam. . It might be distasteful to some people much as your killer's 'trick' upon you, but it isn't enough of a personal reference to label them as mentally disturbed.

    Why (a reason) would s.o. decent with moral / integrity and a healthy mind, trick other ppl to their advantage

    in a game?

    Honest answer....they are likely bored with the game or so damn fed up with survivors trolling that they probably took it out on someone else. That doesn't make their little head games fair, but that's blowing off steam not a direct link to mental or moral interest. However i am secure enough in my own self to admit this is just a theory. And yet, once again, one chance meeting does not give you the correct amount of information to label someone as sick or lacking moral character.

    Why (a reason) would s.o. decent with moral / integrity and a healthy mind, be ok with s.o. tricking other ppl to their advantage in a game?

    I'd like to know you assumptions/ explanation to that.

    Unfortunately you are asking me the same question wearing a different hat and thus my explanation isn't going to change much. People are not readable in the time it takes for someone to finish a game in less than an hour, and you certainly cannot tell a persons personality by a simple post. You have an opinion on the subject, other people have theirs, and as i said before, not agreeing with you is not a benchmark for lack of character or mental stability. Essentially you are profiling someone based on very little evidence, and hey i am guilty of it too, by inferring that your straight up jump to psychopath/sociopath seemed a little creepy. I admit that in that instance i was actually wrong (yep I'm even secure enough to admit i'm wrong) since the better wording should have been 'A little overzealous about a video game mind play and somewhat too eager to plant labels on people. I'll openly admit, you annoyed the hell out of me for taking it upon yourself to label people you didn't know, people who only posted their opinions, as lacking moral character. And to be honest that has not changed.

    I believe I answered all your questions to the best of my abilities.

  • Malakir
    Malakir Member Posts: 799
    edited October 2018
    Hey buddy

  • friendlykillermain
    friendlykillermain Member Posts: 3,162

    @tennmio said:
    I just ran into some toxic killers lately on ps4.

    They behave like a farming killer till they gain ppls trust and then kill everyone.

    Aside from that it's a game and all I think this is a real problem. It's so disgusting and low. Words don't really describe what I think about ppl that are doing this...

    Did others ran into these "ppl" as well?

    oh my god i absolutely despise these people i am a friendly killer at least 3 times a day and not once do i get a kill unless i receive and explicit message telling me to hook them. people who lie to survivors like that are truly the worst of this community.

  • GodDamn_Angela
    GodDamn_Angela Member Posts: 2,213

    Wow.

    I'm speechless.

    This is the most extreme, and outlandish, views I've seen in a long time about people playing a game. OP, are you sure you are okay? I feel you may need some help understanding some things.