Rant. After playing F13 and DBD back to back, in one sitting, F13 is much more fun.
How is that? In F13, counselors can vault but Jason cannot, counselors have DS whenever they want with a pocket knife, they move much faster than you, they can knock the crap out of you, and even kill you. And it's a million times more fun to be Jason than killer in dbd. How is that even possible? I love dbd, but sometimes it's just not fun.
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I think it's just the fact of more interaction. You can talk, roleplay, etc with both sides in F13. Dbd doesn't allow that privilege unless you are in a custom game.
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Yeah, I've had the opposite with F13 because once Jason finds you, you're dead. The objective is also nowhere near as interesting as the generators and almost at the point of being absurd. Most of the time it boils down to "survive as long as possible" and that is not fun to me.
Never had the chance to be Jason though.
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I downloaded it a while ago bc I was bored of dbd. Died pretty early, the others called the cops, and while spectating one of them was dancing and teabagging just before the exit zone for a few minutes until Jason grabbed him, then he stabbed him with a penknife and actually left.
And then I thought oh sh*t this is just dbd as well. Everything is dbd, there really is no escape.
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I was all ready to chastise you until I realized that you wrote F13 and not FF13.
I kid.
Carry on. 😆
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It's a little harder as counselor but it needs to be like that because there is no role queue. It's a reward to play as jason.
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Trust me, you didn't miss much honestly. Most times when I played F13 the councilers would just hide the entire match under beds or tents, etc. Literally never leaving them, or leaving them to reset the AFK aura for the entire duration of the match. DbD has it's share of stealthers but at least you could actually find them eventually
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It's not at all true that you're dead if Jason finds you. You can fight back and run him ragged if you are good enough at it.
You get those mismatches in F13 where the Jason is a newbie and gets wrecked. Then you get the really good Jason that utterly destroys the lobby.
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Jason always knows where people are with his sense ability. Just pop that and go looking.
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Its probably because F13 isn't trying to be a competitive game like DBD is. I played KYF with my friends the other day (Most of them were new) I had the most fun checking to see if they got in lockers or if I could actually pull off my hit. I stopped caring if a gen got done too fast or if I thought Freddys glove shouldn't have hit me. I wish F13 didn't get dealt such a bad hand, it could have been the best asymmetrical multiplayer game yet.
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Sense doesn't detect counselors in hiding places until rage.
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I think if they are in a building it will tell you regardless. I might be wrong tho
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I like the playing dbd non competitively I like it when people are not sweaty as hell those are fun matches.
I'm talking when both side are not that great not also not bad either no one trying hard.
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I personally prefer DBD overall to F13 due to its arcadey nature. F13 absolutely has better atmosphere by far, but I find the speed and gameplay pattern of DBD more enjoyable.
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The counselors personalities also brang a bit of identity to the game, unlike the appreciated but uninspiring Steve moans.
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I'm not a competitive player, yet I still prefer the more competitively focused side of DbD. Wish that my friends who suggested DbD to me would come and do some more customs.
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Nope. If they are hiding under a bed or in a cabinet you won't see them until rage mode.
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To each they're own I suppose lol. I love playing DBD casually. I would probably play F13 more if it still got content.
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The lawsuit is over so we should get some soon.
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Gun media already said that there will be no new content.
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I hope, I haven't heard anything about it though. So it seems unlikely.
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Agreed
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I'm sorry but doing gens is far less interesting to me. Sitting in one spot for 80 seconds versus searching around and scavenging, although sometimes fruitlessly, feels far more interactive than the occasional skillcheck.
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Survivor is way better in f13 cuz it's not gen simulator, haven't gotten to try killer yet but my friends seem to enjoy it.
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Yeah they kind of gave up fixing things after awhile because of the lawsuit. That lawsuit is the only reason dbd won that race. If gunmedia had kept going it would be miles ahead. The only thing better in dbd is more killers and the perk system is better. Everything else foundationally speaking is better in f13
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The objectives are nowhere near as interesting and almost absurd?? Was that a jk?
So having 3 different methods of escape (+waiting out the match) is more boring than running from gen to gen, and escaping via a car or the police is absurd compared to 5 generators magically allowing an escape... Solid logic.
You sir, are special.
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For me it was always stumble across the item randomly, take about 10 steps outside and get done in by Jason teleporting next to me.
Fun.
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i have to agree, counselors can die incredibly easily but can also bring you hell if theyre good enough (until the rage bs) and jason feels super powerful for the most part.
i think what i like the most about it (aside of somehow faster queue times before crossplay got to dbd) is that theres a lot of ways you can go about playing both roles ,hell once stalk is activated you can just play a stealth game against a counselor and wait outside a window or door to surprise grab them or trying to survive the full round as counselor
the mic,even tho i dont have one, is also a treat sometimes, i once found a group of 3-4 people that were so nice to play with, honestly
my only problem for it is the lack of new content because of the stupid lawsuit and the devs refusing to add it after its done, i hope the community can convince them once its done. also i hate the way they buffed rage but its fine, i can work around it
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i think the chances of finding them while hiding is just lowered (by a lot) , i believe increasing the fear of survivors makes it easier to spot, i reccomend hitting all the power generators if you can find anyone
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Even high fear won't spot them before rage if they are in hiding.
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When you die, don't leave, as you have a chance to come back as Tommy Jarvis. He is super powerful, has max stats, and a shotgun+pocket knife.
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I remember. But I also suck at the game.
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That's fair enough, but if you suck at DBD you'll probably have something similar happen.
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My biggest problem with F13 is that it's unbalanced as heck.
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Jason's stun immunity in Rage mode is a bit whack.
The ease with which Jason can be killed by a good and coordinated team is a bit whack.
The fact that counselor stats aren't balanced even slightly (10 Strength is not as beneficial as 10 Stamina; 10 Composure isn't as good as 10 Speed; 2 Repair is potentially superior to 4 and 5 Repair; etc.) is whack
And the fact that acquiring perks is basically done through a slot machine is crazy whack.
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Aside from all that, it's a fun game that also manages to be more atmospheric and engaging than DBD (at least IMO).
I really hate that all the pop-up asymmetric horror games try to copy DBD, when they should copy F13. A F13 with competent devs and consistent updates would be the thing to give DBD some actual competition.
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I think it's because when you play as Jason you actually feel powerful. If you grab a survivor and they don't have a pocketknife they're finished. No second chances (except as tommy). The variety of kills also helps break up the monotony from a killer side and the multiple ways of escape breaks it up on the survivor side. It would have been a superior game in better hands and the lawsuit stuff.
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Gave f13 an honest try. Deleted. Tried again a few months later. Deleted.
Why you ask? Simple, 30 minutes to find a match. Janky controls and animations. Jason’s getting clos—ohhh I’m murdered. Game over. 30 more minutes....
I’m sure it’s fun after a while, but I couldn’t get enough game time to even get basic strategies down. Dbd’s always been there for me though. By the time lobby waits got bad, I was well seasoned which made the wait more worth it. This is better now with crossplay! Ps4 btw.
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I played F13 and had a root canal back to back. I understand.
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Ah F13 good memories.. Bullying Jason’s ass was so much fun.
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Even then, still better than get hitting it with 3 DS strikes in a row in the endgame. Still better than getting hit with NOED and Mori as a solo survivor. Still better FPS on console by a long shot. Better atmosphere. Character personality is better. Need I go on?
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F13 is fun but.... its not fun to be found by jason, he will instakill you, escaping is absurd, and once you die, you are forced to watch the rest play... and its so gross to die first cause jason randomly teleported in front of you in the first game minute.
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I've only ever watched F13 gameplay, but I always like its mechanic of being able to actually beat up the killer. That's something I wish DBD had - actual defense mechanics. Not just running in circles.
Like, I want to be able to hit the tunneling LF with a baseball bat.
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Me neither.
Getting t bagged at, body blocked by half my size survivor, spun by a survivor with inhuman movement is wayy more edgy.
Gotcha
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this is comparing apples to oranges i like dbd but this game cant compete against f13, they should've been eternally grateful to victor miller because that man saved this game
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Like, why can't I just shove the dude out of the way?
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that's just noob problems. It's quite easy to escape in F13. I'm also literally laughing that you think generators are somehow more compelling Nathan a variety of interesting, multi-faceted objectives and escape methods.
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again, sounds like you just need to get better.
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Gun Media already said there would never again be new content. Outside of the bug patches every six months or so that Black Tower does for them, the main programmers, Illfonic, long since moved on when the game was halted and did Predator: Hunting Grounds. They also stated that the license ends in a couple of years and that is that. I think they said 2023.
That said, I still play F13 on occasion. I hadn't played any asymmetrical game except a very odd match of DbD in about a year, but am probably going to reinstall F13 at some point in the near future. When I just want to slaughter stuff and not worry about PvP and its crap, I'll either fire-up F13 for bots mode, DbD Mobile for bots, or Borderlands 2.
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I guess you are interested in getting bullied by 4 survivors then. I dont understand why do i have a chainsaw in this game and survivors keep laughing at me. I quit playing billy, keep taking care of the people you have left, the casuals. Because veterans already left.
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I've been playing F13 since it first came out. Its a fun game, but there has been no new content in two years.
The worst aspect is its ridiculously easy to kill Jason. If you have a squad of veteran counselors intent on killing Jason, then Jason is dead. No two ways about it. Doesn't matter how experienced a Jason you are. Plus facing Jason is the same experience over and over. Some Jasons are stronger than others, but at the end of the day they all do the same thing. Whereas in Dbd, every killer is unique and you deal with each one's power very differently.
There is one thing F13 has over Dbd that I really like and that's how the counselors (survivors) are not just skins. Each character has their own strengths and weaknesses. Strength, stamina, repair skills, composure etc. They all have their own unique stats in each of those, and you can pick which ever character suits your play style.
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What I have seen in F13 lets plays, shows some interesting things, but for me it would getting old really fast because I knew there will never be another killer besides Jason.
As example: I am a hardcore Legion main. The majority of my playtime in dbd was done with the Legion, but still I have also play much as Trapper, Ghostface or Meyers and some other killers.
For me a game would getting boring really fast if I would be "forced" to take always the same character, because there is nothing else left.
Edit: And that is also the biggest problem of other games of this type of games compared to dbd - they have only 1 or a handful of killers. Not enough for a guy like me :).
Edit²: But the dbd team could really take an example on the end of a match in f13 imo. The moment when Jason walks back and his dead mother talks to him - that is really atmospheric. I wish that there would be something similar if you end a match in dbd as killer and not just "entity is XYZ".
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