The console hate. My question to the pc players.

Yeah, console has always been more deliberate because we can't just flick a mouse everywhere. Amount of control is debatable because PC can in essence be limited to 8 cardinal directions, where as a joystick has full omni-directional control. Console killers can also still moonwalk, but again flicking a mouse for aim.

Frames can be easy enough to deal with, and they have honestly never been that much of a game-changer for me except for atrocious lag spikes that can be attributed more to the Australian NBN than a console limitation.

If you practice a bit more with a controller, the gap in skill from learning the new control scheme should lessen at worst or disappear outright. My only singular complaint with using a controller is that on Xbox there are so many actions that are mapped to the right bumper, or RB, and it's really annoying when I want to heal someone under a pallet and accidentally throw it down because I was still moving for half a second.

Most of it I've seen is just banter, it's just people looking for an excuse to meme on something. But hey, I'm a PC player, so there's probably more to it and I just haven't experienced it. And anyone who genuinely thinks that all console players are bad is a certified smooth brain

Honestly, I believe the people generalizing that console = bad are just a vocal minority.

I personally love cross play! It has done wonders for long queues in my experience. Also, the mindset that console players are inherently bad is just wrong. There are good and not-so-good players on both PC and console. I've always been on PC and, with crossplay, have run into players on console that are insanely good - way better than I am. I've also run into some players on console that don't play well at all. It's pretty much the same as it was before crossplay on PC in my personal experience.

It just seems to be a mixed bag that I think is more of an issue with matchmaking than what platform someone is playing on, but that's a completely different issue.

HEY!

I also can say that I don't see that much of a difference. Got the game for XBOX, SWITCH LITE, and PC and playing every day on those platforms. 

The FPS on switch is acceptable for its hardware. It's good enough to play killer, I main killers like doc, spirit, and oni on the switch. No problem at all, for me, winning almost any games and that doesn't changed since crossplay. Getting more and more globes behind names than normal switch players. 

On Xbox (need to mention its the fat bulk og model) also almost no problems, the only thing that got in my way is the hill glitch.. but fps is "stable". Got a built-in counter in my monitor (not Hz, fps) the framerate jumps from mid-40s to high 50s and sometimes stable 60s. Maining killers like DOC, Leatherface, Myers, and Billy BongBong on Xbox. No problem at all and also nothing changed since crossplay. (One of the reasons I mention the fps on Xbox is the fact, that I read several posts here that say "console" is only 30fps-ish.. Got a ONE X 2yrs ago, it died 2 months ago, but the fps there was like 55+ all the time.. maybe other factors apply but that's my experience..)

On the pc side.. normally the framerate on pc is locked at 60 fps. Only when you mess with the game setting files it can get higher than that. Maybe BEHAVIOUR should do something about it and I understand why people unlock the framerate.. it feels much smoother with a high refresh rate screen. But in my experience, it doesn't make you better with it.

Controller players can be godly also can M&K players be like that. Training and experience with both input devices can achieve really good results. The thing to understand is, that no one should give up when you got fun experiences with a game. Stay focused, learn to play better, get used to the controls, to the input devices, and at the end its only a thing of training and trial & error. It's only my opinion. To mention one more thing, my 18-year-old mentally handicapped sister (with 85%) got used to controller controls in DBD .. and it's a blast to watch her play, and that she has fun with the game at all and since crossplay I'm able to play with her, my mom (ps4) and my Girl (XBX). Crossplay is a good thing. My queue times are better too, living in Germany, before cross-play I need to wait like 10-15 Minutes and maybe much longer as a killer to find a lobby, now with crossplay, it's almost instant every day.

To the macro thing.. yes it's an advantage. I don't use it, because of that.

Again. It's only my own opinion. Experiences can differ from person to person. But i have more fun since cross-play.

Have a nice day folks, see you in the fog :)

For my first several dozen matches of survivor I played exclusively with gamepad on PC. I just didn't take the game very seriously and it seemed to work well enough. Then I started watching some streams/Youtube videos and there was a lot of advanced movement that I just didn't feel like I'd be getting out of a gamepad, so I switched over, although I've always played killer with KBM. I still occasionally play survivor with gamepad if I want some really chill games.

PC players use controllers all the time and yes they are completely different skill sets if you want the most out of DBD you should use a mouse and keyboard you'll make less mistakes. Frames are game changing and from what i hear console are getting 30-60 frames and sometimes lower than 30 where as PC players can get 80-120 possibly more. I don't think console players are all turds who don't know how to play the game but when matched against PC players they are at a disadvantage.

I don't think most of us hates you but to be honest ''the console'' community at least on these forum seem pretty much against us from the get go with these '' So much hacker on PC'' and ''Everyone is running DbD in stretched resolution at 200 FPS'' and ''Please let's split the cross play community by allowing console with console only''.

So i'm throwing the question back at you why do you guys don't want to play with us that much? I love playing with my console friends in SoT and even more in CoD : Modern warfare where i'm against like 90% console play and they still kick my ass, cross-play is awesome and is the future of gaming tbh having one huge player base is so much fun.

Also my buddy on PC use a controller so guys quit tripping over KB/M.

Can you give an example of of what your referring to? Would you mind linking a thread or something. Most of the threads i've seen have been anti-pc with people asking for crossplay to be turned off for PC for 50 different reasons. I've heard people say they want to play with other consoles...but not PC players.

The reasons for this include but not limited to...

1.keyboard and mouse support

2.better FPS

3.supposed hackers (this was common BEFORE crossplay was introduced in that people would assume hackers were way more common than they actually were.)

4.PTB on PC allows people to get good at new content so they can dominate players on consoles when it hits live. Apparently playing a character for a week makes you an expert to the point that you can dominate players with just a handful of perks.

Anytime PC players try to empathize with console problems...well thats being an elitist. If you give any mention that maybe having better control of your character and a higher framerate DOES give you an advantage...then your just bragging about your setup you PC elitist. If you DONT do this however and just want to play with your friends on other platforms...thats just as bad because your not being empathetic to other people up there on your PC master race throne. Seriously...theres no winning.

Its gotten to the point where everything that happens in matches is because of PC players. Survivors you faced were playing well? It MUST have been a PC player. That globe means they were playing on one of 3 possible platforms but YOU know which one it was. Their username had dashes and hyphens in it, which is CLEARLY a sign of a PC (even though many console names have these very things).

Where have people said they hate console players? I've never seen any of this.

Just curious, how do you know which platform theyre playing on?

That just means theyre playing on a platform different from yours, but doesnt tell you which of the other 3 platforms theyre on.

I'm pretty sure the PC players who hate console players don't represent the majority of PC player opinion on crossplay. I think it's a very healthy and inclusive for the game to bring its community even more together like this.

True, but if you're a console player and somebody with a crossplay icon says you're good for a console player, you can make a pretty safe bet that they're a PC player.

It’s obvious it’s a PC player if they have a space between two words. Consoles don’t let you do that, at least not PS4 from what I know.

Thats my point. Because the platform YOUR on doesnt allow certain things in usernames... you assume NO console does and therefore...must be PC. Xbox allows spaces.

Edit- currently playing warframe on switch and seeing plenty of names with things like hyphens, underscores and periods too

Not assuming, actually allowing for someone to give me insight. As I said “at least on PS4 from what I know of” was me being unsure, not assuming.

Thanks for the clarity.

From lots of PC streamers I've watched (not all, but most) whenever a killer doesn't do great their first assumption is it's a console killer, even though sometimes it's actually a PC killer once they check the endgame leaderboards. I guess lots of PC players assume you can't be a great killer using a controller? I dunno.