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apparently face camping is now bannable

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Griefing is a reportable offense

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  • Masochistic_Killer
    Masochistic_Killer Member Posts: 413

    Name one.

    It's not in WoW

    It's not in Eve

    It's not in Tera

    It's not in BDO

    It's not in LOTRO (Entmoors)

    It's not in Rift

    It's not in Smite

    It's not in WoWS

    It's not in WoT

    This is just off the top of my head. I'm sure there are many MANY more. If you're playing a PvP game, PvP Is part of the game. Shocking, I know.

  • Buttercake
    Buttercake Member Posts: 1,652

    But if someone's playstyle is to camp and tunnel. Eventually they are gonna have a same player again. It doesn't mean They are targeting you as a human being.

    They would literally have to camp and tunnel the 1 person the whole game and then not do anything else to other survivors for several games, to even consider they are griefings player.

    How often has anyone seen someone facecamp\tunnel the one player and cease to do anything else after they have died? I've only seen it twice.

  • SoylentPixie
    SoylentPixie Member Posts: 1,192
    edited August 2020

    But that's the point, it is rare because we aren't talking about someone who's play style is camping and tunneling. The 'griefing' model of this strategy is someone who goes out of their way game after game to ignore all other players in order to find, tunnel and camp the person to death. Nobody is saying everyone who camps and tunnels should be banned for griefing.

    The few players who may have earned this ban are the kind who will refresh lobbies till they are in the one containing the player they have a beef with, will throw their games (because face camping one victim at the expense of all the others isn't profitable) and do it over and over again. That is what people mean by griefing. Not camping and tunneling itself. I've seen it done by a streamer I won't mention.

    Now i will say, chances are, that the person who made the inquiry may have just had the bad luck of bumping into the same killer with a camping / tunneling strategy, and that's for the devs to decide. Since someone actually being banned for camping and tunneling would be raged about on the forums, I'd say its pretty rare the devs agree with most complaints. Certainly not without proof of actual griefing.

  • th3
    th3 Member Posts: 1,885

    Pretty good b8

  • IIITweedleIII
    IIITweedleIII Member Posts: 1,018

    That's more like a Personal Griefer Harassment situation.

    Read op title and was excited. Color me disappointed now. 😐

  • SocialDistomancy
    SocialDistomancy Member Posts: 1,319
    edited August 2020

    that's old news, same with tunneling in multiple games. so say you ran into the same guy ten different matches, and you camped or tunneled him in 4 or 5 if not more of those games especially multiple times you met him in a row. That would be considered targeted harassement/griefing and could get you intot rouble. Unfortunately, even if it's simply done because they are the easiest to catch in many matches and you remember that fact when you see them in lobby (especially if they roll with a twf) or if they are often the only survivor you can even find (especially if they roll with a twf) since they only see the raw data and have no understanding of the context of the match.

    So this could actually be abused by twf were it not for the fact they don't know who the killer player is in the lobby nor until the match is over with, the only saving grace from this being abused to force killers to have to tunnel out objectas an example or else stand ina c orner all game every time they would have been able tor ecognize a killer player they didn't like or just decided to troll. This is one example why survivor lobbies should never be allowed to see the killer's name/profile, at the least, even if they ever let them see the killer type again. when the game came out, I remember they used to be able to find the killer's profile through recently played and decide to dodge or troll them... thank god they can't do that any more

  • johnmwarner
    johnmwarner Member Posts: 3,793

    No, griefing is bannable, get it?

    This pretty clearly states it has to be over multiple games, most likely involving some sort of outside program to locate the same person over and over again and then target them game after game. It's like if you played an MMO and body camped or graveyard camped someone for hours.

  • SnakeSound222
    SnakeSound222 Member Posts: 4,467

    75% chance this is bait.

    25% chance you didn’t read the entire thing.

  • NekoGamerX
    NekoGamerX Member Posts: 5,459

    if the face camper targeting the same person in multiple games and it may have to be a alot to get someone banned.

  • TransverseCaster
    TransverseCaster Member Posts: 554

    I get ban threats in just under half my games, probably about a third. I'm bringing grief apparently but I rarely mean to.

  • hillbillyclaudmain69
    hillbillyclaudmain69 Member Posts: 1,528

    No. Repeatedly finding and braiding a single person is bannable. You might want to...you know...read the post before commenting?

  • Toybasher
    Toybasher Member Posts: 979

    "What are you in for? I murdered 6 people with a toothpick because they made fun of my hair."


    "Insidious Facecamping level 20's with Leatherface in Dead By Daylight."


    "*Scoots away*"


    Anyways the rule mentioned was for if you target a specific player repeatedly to ruin their gameplay experience. I'm not trying to rules-lawyer but I am curious exactly what the definition of that is.


    If I run into "John Doe" and he and his SWF acted as toxic as possible (All quick-switching from Default Dwights and Jakes to P3 Legacy with flashlights and keys, map offerings, teabagging after pallet stuns, using that annoying flashlight macro which hurts my ears, etc. waiting at the exit gates just to teabag me, bullying the ######### out of me in post-game chat) and I was annoyed enough I actually remembered their usernames when they ended up in my lobby a month later, am I in the wrong for throwing on an Ebony Mori, Franklin's, NOED, Blood Warden, etc. because I remembered how insufferable that previous match was?


    I get it that if I'm doing stuff like dodging lobbies repeatedly trying to get into their lobby, or facecamping John Doe and letting the other 3 go free, etc. that's definitely targeted griefing, but what about if they just wound up in my lobby like a few weeks later and I decide to throw on an OP/annoying build like Iri Huntress or Impossible Skillcheck Doctor? Can it even be proven I threw on that build solely because I wanted to "punish" the toxic player, or was my plan all along to bring the build and the toxic player was just in the wrong place at the wrong time?

  • ill_Boston_lli
    ill_Boston_lli Member Posts: 899

    you can tell "strategic" camping from grief camping its very discernable.