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Color blind options would be an advantage.
But its TOTALLY not an advantage when PS4, Xbox, and switch players are forced to play PC Huntresses and Nurses if they want to play with each other. What an absolute JOKE. Is this really what you guys had in mind when you did crossplay? To completely ruin the experience of someone just playing solo survivor?
BHVR isn't serious about crossplay. Its just a boon to their PC players at the expense of everybody else.
Oh and someone will surely be like u cAn tUrn It oFf. No you can't. Not without losing the ability to play with another consoles playerbase and a portion of my own consoles playerbase I previously had access to. SO thanks for that BHVR.
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Has BHVR actually stated they will not be implementing colorblind options because it would be an advantage?
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it is an advantage to those people who arent colour blind, not that itd matter alot as most PC players add filters/low setting anyway to make things brighter and easier to see. dont like crossplay? turn it off, its what i do when playing killer because i like my frames lol
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No, I think I will complain about it instead as anyone logical would. Waits where already long before. So I get to turn it off and have even LESS players than before crossplay started? No I think I will bug BHVR until they adopt a sane crossplay function that doesn't just turn the game into a playground for PC players.
I bought this game for console with ZERO intent to compete with PC players. Why am I now FORCED to do so without enduring even worse matchmaking times?. Who in the world would ever want to do that? Wanna? Go ahead, a sane crossplay filtering option would fix ALL POSSIBLE ISSUES and everyone could do what they want to do.
Except that almost nobody would opt to play with PC. Therefore proving BHVR actually WANTS consoles to play at a disadvantage if they ever change this. It is the sole reason this wouldn't already function this way. Oh you PC guys are more prone to complain about balance? Well STFU here u go some people on 25 frames and a controller for to easily beat SHADADUP.
Really?
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well i turn it off for killer because frames are trash, my wait times are no different. cross play was made for PC as they had less players, console has plenty of people with the settings turned off. and if a pc huntress, nurse etc. bugs you then youre probably use to easy games, just adapt? the biggest issue is the visual advantages like i mentioned not the mouse and keyboard.
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That is completely not true. Your wait times will absolutely be changed as the playerbase is now smaller if you turn it off.
The PC playerbase is the single LARGEST player base playing. They screwed everyone over in favor of them. Oh and of course the console players who DO have crossplay turned off are infinitely more likely to be the sweaty tryhard types who aren't used to losing. So we cant wait longer and player the best console players there is....or play PC players. HORRIBLE SYSTEM in place currently.
You can't adapt when you're using different equiptment and entirely different setup. Its like having an 8 year old play against 12 year olds in sports. The 12 years olds will always be better no matter WHAT.
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Color blind mode should be in the game yesterday. People who want to get an advantage will find a way somehow, just look at the strecthed screen settings some players do.
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god damn i hope youre a PS4 player, id hate to have you representing xbox. its the smallest of advantage to have a mouse... you dont even understand half of it, or even know the facts. more people play on console, and there are plenty of people off the crossplay and its not all tryhards and alot of people are like you. if you cant handle the challenge turn it off and accept it, you keep going on about advantage but you dont even list the main advantages PC gets. the frames are and issue but thats on the devs
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Yeah we need you to represent Xbox. When you don't even understand what you're talking about at all.
Oh my god you just said a mouse is a small advantage? How are there people like this?
The difference is one person is using their ENTIRE HAND to manipulate an object meanwhile the person on the console is using their thumb,
hmmmmm. I wonder how many tasks the average human could outperform another human in while using only their thumb while the other person is free to use their entire hand. SPOILER ALERT. None.
"the frames are and issue but thats on the devs" I tried to decipher what that means even though my native language is English. I think I got it. Hmmm its almost like this post IS criticizing the devs. Yeaahhh?
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People should not have to beg for accessibility options.
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If you are playing solo on console just disable crossplay 4head, if you are playing in swf cross console then accept the fact that you can go against competent players from pc, if you can't accept that harsh reality that you are only good against other console players then disable crossplay and only play with friends on the same console
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also lmao just use cronusmax plus for keyboard and mouse on console or stop complaining
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We shouldn't, but when these devs have not added any kind of meaningful settings for 4 years, still have FOV tied to a perk and 25% of a killer's loadout, and Wraith can still be lightburned, there comes a point where we desperately need them to get this game up-to-date.
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When you come into a thread expecting it to actually be about accessibility for color blind people but it's just someone ranting about how they don't like crossplay.........
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I agree with you 100%.
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As someone with deuteranopia, I utterly loath swamp maps.
Survivors take 2 steps into the mist and it's like they just beamed onboard the Enterprise.
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So relearn the entire game with new controls? All the while still having inferior visuals?
We need as many posts as possible in topics like this.
People really need to quit responding when the haven't even read the topics. "jUst dIsaBle". Already outlined why thats not a good alternative at all.
A crossplay filter option is the ONLY good alternative.
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Yes, some months ago.
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They could do something like that, but honestly playing against PC Huntresses and Nurses on console won't be that bad once you get used to it (Well, Huntresses anyway). I used to play survivor with a controller a lot and I don't notice a difference in my survivability, that's not a word but roll with it. KB+M survivors don't get much of an advantage against controller survivors so I'm guessing the biggest issue console survivors have is the horrific optimization? I could definitely see that being a valid complaint, but optimisation aside, once you go against more PC Huntress and Nurse players you'll eventually get the hang of it. Even the best Huntress mains have their own setplay they like to fall into, theirs is just more unpredictable than the standard players'.
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Another person whinging about crossplay. Awesome
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DId I buy a PC game?
Coward because I want a level playing field? Jesus Christ the intelligence on full display in this thread.
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Yeah its almost like its completely unfair at its core or something. Really weird that people would complain about it.
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Dude seriously, just get better at colors m8.
On topic: Playing nurse, huntress, deathalinger and so on gets more difficult on console. The counterplay is the same. So essentially console survivors have to learn how to play against good skillshot killers or am i wrong?
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So yet again. Out do a hand with a thumb? Wish us luck with that.
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coward because you are too scared to go against better players and improve, you are the kind of person who gets a bronze rank in a competitive game and complains when they cant stomp every match because if they do they will face competent players
If you can't accept the fact that people are better than you then disable your crossplay like the coward you are
If you can accept the fact that you have room for improvement then leave crossplay on
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I see that you're really slow on this one. Do me a favor and list how many things do you think you could beat me at using your thumb while I use my hand.
Catch? Think you can throw further and catch more? How about we fight? You can swing your thumb at me while I use my fist. Then after that we can play ping pong. You can somehow hold it with your thumb while I use my hand. I have this weird feeling there is nothing you can beat me at while using just your thumb.
The funniest part is I bet it STILL hasn't dawned on you how goofy you seem. Doubling down on the coward stuff...LOLOL.
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Survivor, the thing you are saying you play, is similar if not exactly the same on controller, the only precise thing a survivor might do is aim a flashlight
However you in your cowardice refuse to go against better players because in comparison of killer on keyboard and killer on controller most killers full potentials cant be realized on controller
Just because killers can reach their full potential doesn't mean they are at an unfair advantage that meant that the killers on controllers were at an unfair disadvantage
Now that the playing field is level and killers that couldn't reach their full potential on controller like nurse, huntress, oni, billy, deathslinger can you are too scared and complain that you have to go against them
What you are arguing for is for every killer you go against to have an unfair disadvantage every game so you can feel better at the game, got news for you on that front, you are scared of players being better than you are.
Take your poorly made comparison and flip it around thats console survivor vs console killer, console survivor plays the same as pc survivor but now that you have to face killers that can reach their full potential you whine and cry.
The sad part about this is you think that youre the good player in all of this while you complain that people can be good with something
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######### are y ou talking about reach their full potential? Are you trying to be satirical right now? You just DEFINED unfair. Just because they reach the full potential it doesn't mean its unfair. IT ABSOLUTELY DOES are you kidding me? Nurse is one of the least played console killers and with 90% likelyhood be terrible at playing Nurse when on console.
Now that the playing field is level. Again ######### are you talking about? So the 25 frames per second console suddenly had the 135 PC can have and the precision controls? What are you on right now?
How in the world is it UNFAIR for me to have a controller and play against a killer with a controller too? Are you okay?
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Okay you're actually clueless. I am just going to laugh at your posts from now on out. You provide so much stupidity its hilarious.
Only in your world can something somehow be "virtually identical" yet also be "better players" at the same time.
Keep posting though its hilarious reading you make objectively incorrect statements all while contradicting yourself at the same time. Simpleton? AHAHAHAH points for irony there.
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Crossplay makes more money than putting colorblind options. I'm beginning to wonder if the devs are just not caring about disability options because they won't make as much money, meaning that we'll get all of the big things like crossplay, next-gen support, cross-progression, VR/AR support, etc before disability options. We might even get the fabled console optimization before something to help with disabilities.
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As a red rank PC killer that uses an xbox controller instead of M+KB a lot of this thread is hilarious to me.
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Yeah I bet those sound options, massive frame rate advantage, better overall visuals, plus the fact you've always been playing against PC players is just downright hilarious.
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Yeah, it really is "a thumb for the same action is weaker than a full hand" really made my day lol
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As a colorblind player who's been advocating for colorblind options since 2017, please leave us out of your vitriol. Just hurts the argument that it's something we should have when the "whataboutism" peons ignore for the hundred and first time that I said I'm ok with not being able to see blood that there's also anger threads connecting colorblindness to something else, regardless of the legitimacy of that other thing.
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All this thread has stated is you hate Cross-Play, you hate PC killers and you think they have advantages over console players. You mention color-blind, what? Once or twice? Solution: Either get used to Cross-Play or turn it off. Don't want to turn it off because you get less players? That's your issue. Don't like PC having an advantage? Then perhaps you need to move on from the game. All you've done this entire thread is insult people who reply and ######### about PC players.
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I guess you find the truth hilarious?
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Yeah I get it. You're a color blind person on PC who still wants easy mode when it said and done. Otherwise you would have no issue with this reference because its a blatant example of a hypocritical practice. People who make video games don't know that having 5-6 times better framerate and controls are an advantage? WHAT?
This is the thing thats funny to me. Absolutely no one on PC who is reasonable would oppose giving platforms the option of filtering out who they don't want to play with. Ask yourself why would anybody on PC NOT want to give the consoles the option to play among themselves? Yeah EXACTLY.
I haven't watched a SINGLE streamer play DBD and not talk about console players as if there not second class citizens. Always knocking the skill level. Not a SINGLE person on PC thinks console players are on their level and instinctively they know exactly why that is. Oh but try to make the argument that they should be able to play without PC....same people clowning console players...wait thats illegal.
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Yeah, pad that post count bud. You read almost none of the thread if you think I insulted anybody. This "person" stumbling over himself trying to debate this topic insulted me first and I returned the tone.
Its actually not my problem. I have nothing to do with it other than being an unsatisfied costumer. So what should I do? Shutup? You buy some food and turns out its rotten. Do you just shutup about it or ask the seller to make it right? I mean this isn't exactly a complex issue here.
Console players want the option to play with eachother without PC. Let us have it. No reasonable person opposes this.
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Yeah totally padding my post count and not just having an opinion. And you have the choice to play with console only. Turn it off. Solution found. Not sure what more you'd like here.
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They are better players because they have better opponents to get better against genius
They improved vs the better players, saying you don't want to improve against the better players and instead just face the killers limited by controls is like being a 5th grader in the 1st grade sandbox and complaining that your parents want you to leave the elementary school and go to middle school or instead just pick on people your own size
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Could I have possible made that more clear?
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So PC players are better players who don't have an advantage over console who are better players because they beat better players and became better players. Keep going this is funny. This has got to be satire. Acknowledging they're better in nearly every post while at the same time saying there is no advantage. LOL
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I agree that it is an advantage to non colorblind people, I remember using colorblind options for pubg, it really helped a lot and made my life easier.
BUT it's not fair that real colorblind people have to suffer because people would abuse that.
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I think that BHVR should implement Color Blind options and balance the game around it if necessary. Color Blind options doesn't mean the game will become more visible than usual for people who can see the full spectrum. It could be created different pallets of collors made for people who can't see part of the spectrum. Many PC players including myself use NVIDIA Freestyle to cover that game deficiency, and it's very unfair for people who are playing console because they aren't able to do something about that. That said, please don't try bait discussions using color blind people as a shield. If you want to say console players facing top tier PC players is unfair, everyone knows about that. But don't try bait discussions using something that you don't have knowledge about it. It's very offensive.
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yea to me too I play this game on PS4 and steam and I steam I use xbox one controller do fine.
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I think people who are colorblind just want to be able to see things. You are comparing disability accessibility options to the choice of platform that one plays the game on. Isn't that a bit disingenuous?
Time for point number two about frame rates. DBD is locked at a max frame rate of 60fps unless you go and do some shady things to some game file. (I don't know the details exactly) I venture to say most pc players probably haven't messed with their game files. As far as I know only streamers do it for a better viewing experience for the viewers. On top of that, the devs have said they're looking into the poor frame rates on console
As for console players, from my observations, they are accustomed to different strategies to evade the killer than pc players. PC players tend to try to loop killers, while the console survivors either try to hide from a killer or try to spin when the killer swings. Most of the console killers I've faced have been fine, and I can't tell a difference between them and a PC killer, with the exception of killer choice.
Follow up thought, are all consoles really a level playing field with each other? Does a first gen xbox one have the same performance as the most recent gen of ps4? What about the switch? Then we can factor latency into the equation, the refresh speed of the TV being played on, and how you receive your sound. I propose that consoles aren't a level playing field among themselves.
I would download DBD onto my xbox to prove you wrong, but I don't think its worth the money to purchase DLCs again and to spend all the time unlocking perks and ranking up to prove a point to a stranger on the internet. The fact that there are still console players that have the crossplay enabled, means that they feel less inconvenienced by crossplay than they did before it was implemented.
Have you also considered the reason that some PC players want crossplay is the promise of faster matchmaking and the ability to play with friends that own consoles?
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NRS patched Injustice for their visually impaired players by adding sound cues at interactables... it's kinda messed up it's 2020 and basic accessibility is being denied to certain folk. I have a friend who is color blind and can't play killer in DBD (or Jason in Ft13th) because lazy or ableist developers just can't be bothered.
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How the F is it disingenuous when its a fact?
Shady things? Because we all know PC players don't have access to anything that could help them do that.
Looking into frame rate....K bud.
You can't tell a difference with the exception of killer choice. So which is it? You either can tell or you can't tell. On top of that you're outright lying if you say you can't tell a difference between a console or PC killer outside of you being rank 10-15 or something. PC killer movement is so much more smooth and vastly more efficient at maneuvering loops and mind gaming.
Yes the consoles are a level playing field with very slight performance improvement on the pro and X. Not enough to make any real impact to someone who is experienced on the lesser consoles. Switch shouldn't have to play with anyone they don't want. Obviously. If you were going to try and say they aren't on a level playing field you would only be further making my point for me. So its really fair that those even lesser consoles have to play PC if they want crossplay too?
What exactly are you going to prove wrong? You gonna win a match or two? Anybody following DBD is aware PC players are better. I honestly can't believe there are people who want to try and debate that. Yet besides that...whoa. You mean there are tons of casual players who might not care about crossplay or are playing with their friends on other consoles? That doesn't prove they feel less inconvenienced at all. You gonna tell me that if every console player was asked if they would prefer the option to filter out PC if they wanted to. That likely 75% or higher wouldn't want the option? They could STILL play with PC if they wanted to.
Well gee no I never considered PC players want faster matchmaking and play with friends. Good thing my suggestion wouldn't hurt either of those groups....
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They are better, BECAUSE THEY PLAYED VS THE HARDER THINGS, you now have the chance to PLAY VS THE HARDER THINGS, and IMPROVE AT THE GAME, they didn't get better because they had an advantage or disadvantage they got better because their OPPONENTS weren't at a disadvantage
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Its disingenuous when you compare an actual disability to just playing on a different system. One of those is a choice you made when you decided on how you want to game, one of those has an option that lets you disable it at the price of slower matchmaking. I'm not sure but I think colorblind people would prefer having a choice in the matter.
Console players don't play nurse or huntress very much, that's a pretty easy hint to pick up on.
"Shady things? Because we all know PC players don't have access to anything that could help them do that." The amount of effort to do that versus the actual benefit. Not like you can't find ways to edit files on a console.
You can find a Dev comment in the BHVR, can we acknowledge fps on console is awful post that is almost always on page one of the discussions.
You acknowledge yourself that the level playing field you want isn't truly level. Perhaps the major issue is frame rates which is a known issue that bhvr has to fix. Since the fps drop on console is related to a recent update, I would guess that they might have a patch to fix some of that by the next update rolls around. (which is probably a week or two out). So aside from the frame rate issues, your point is moot, because you very well could hook up a mouse and keyboard to your console, just as I can play with a controller.
If you think 75% or more of the console players want to change how crossplay works, I invite you to prove it. Create a poll in the polls thread, get people to vote then show that to the devs. I presented my limited anecdotal evidence, you just speculated based on your own opinions. My argument is based on the fact there is an opt out option, and that the majority of my players are crossplay to me on steam.
As for PC players being better than console players, my point was that I'm not sure that is inherently true versus being an isolated community that evolved strategies to play the game thrust into a community where the game play strategies differ than the strategies they practiced. I think the console players just need to adapt to a more effective strategy.
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