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Why are killers allowed to do this? (Please Watch)
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It’s the way you’re expressing your opinion that is off putting to some. You’re putting people down unnecessarily.
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This. So much this.
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And this brings me back around to what I posted above. Although I've been an author for close to 30 years, I also spent 14 years in the gaming industry in game design. I completely understand why some people at the forums question if the people designing things for this game actually play, never mind understand, the game.
Even if all of the issues with PH's design weren't noticed on paper, there is no excuse for it being missed during the various testing phases. It's obvious how his powers can be used for camping. And to be honest, in particular situations the killer would be stupid to not use the kit for that.
Yet, they missed it. How? I've no clue. But they missed it to the point that they had to make changes after it went live because players camped with it precisely as anyone on the team in that department with an understanding of DbD and the players should have seen long before retail release.
I don't know if it's a lack of understanding of the game, or that corners are being cut in the testing and design phases, but something isn't working as it should be.
(I have the same issue with Overwatch and how some hero designs, such as original Brigette or original Sigma, made it into live.)
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It wasn't scummy so much as petty. I'm not gonna lie, if I were that PH, I'd probably have found that situation funny enough to dance to.
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I understand your frustrations but you let me bleed out as killer you cant really be big mad.
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Bleeding out is not as bad as that though. I’m not mad. My friend dc’d it’s a scummy tactic as PYRAMID HEAD I played oni against you and your team was just going for flashlight saves
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I wouldnt say so. The difference is he had to camp the game wasnt over and he had nothing better to do. Blame the devs for the poor design. You on the other hand let me bleed out over something as trivial as "cockyness." You cant be mad. You also cant be mad as you have done scummy tactics yourself. No one wants to be on the floor and do nothing.
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I dont see that at all from the killer, he was just securing a kill, and you're complaining because he didnt let you walk out. What youre asking for is the definition of entitled.
Be glad I wasn't in that match, you'd be on here, whining about how overpowered pyramid head is, rather than whining because all 4 didnt escape. Because if you cant dodge his m2 in open space, you wouldnt have lasted 5 minutes against a killer like me.
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You’re team was unhooking in front of my face and going for flashlight saves. So if I down someone that I just unhooked I’m not going to get DS’d so I’m going to slug. If your teammates are surrounding 1 body and I have infectious I’m going to bait your teammates and look at what happened they were stupid enough to surround you and they all got slugged not just you (: don’t come on these forums and try to make me look bad when you know how to hit me up on Xbox (;
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Why did you avoid the perk question? Is your whole SWF just running small PP build then complaining your gen rush ended in one of your SWF having to DC?
It's literally not impressive when a team escapes based off of immunity and 4 man communication. As I see it, you and your SWF had everything in this game, you have no room to complain.
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Sounds like a killer that is smart,never be a hero is my #1 rule,i do break it but i understand imma die because heroes die.its your fault not escaping..ive killed countless wannabe heroes with basement trapper i cant count
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Yeah but they were not all slugged I think like 2 of us were and you watched us bleed out. I wasnt even sweating that game. I was trying to complete my challenge.
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The only entitlement here is that of the survivor. So many ways to still save the person: flashlights, hook blocking, sabo, for the people, and more im missing i would bet.
Instead of swarming the cage and expecting the killer to just let you save the person, leave the game. You aren't entitled to be saved, the killer isn't entitled to the kill. It comes down to who has the better play, its pvp. Deal with it.
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Figuring out the killers motives are kinda important
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Its not because gen are done and the gate are open that you have won the game. Survivor need to stop thinking because gen are done the game is over and they have won.
The killer was trying to get a kill it does not matter how he do it specially at this point in the game survivor need to stop thinking killer need to play a certain way for the game to be fun.
Your friend was in the wrong for dcing and at this point the killer know he wont catch any of you so he dance on the dc body because its the only thing that left to do just like the majority of the survivor t bag at the exit gate or on the hatch.
That was the best strat that killer could use to get a kill at this time in the game if your friend had dead hard he could have escape easy
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As a killer,if i get 1 sacrifice or kill,im good.they gotta escape not me lol
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Sorry if this has been said but I'm not reading all 10,000 replies to this topic. I just wanted to add that this is a prime example of people circumventing a mechanism and problem that the developers sought to remedy. That's a problem in general with the game, everyone looks for a way to bypass or circumvent to accomplish their goals. Imo the game should recognize that the person was being camped and teleport him.
I do agree that no one is entitled to escape or get a kill, that's yet another problem with the community. People think because the exit gates are opened that you're entitled to escape likewise other people think that because they downed you during the collapse that they're entitled to kill you. Or because they killed the other three people, the fourth should be a guarantee basically.
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Basement trapper for sure,especially with that trap that downs you if you untrap yourself
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What some survivors don't get is that survivors escape when they cross the exit line and their status changes into "Escaped", but not a moment before. All time before that they are very much killable, even if there is an opened gate 10 meters next to you.
Also what would you do as a killer in that situation? Just allow everyone to escape when you still can secure a kill?
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I've yoinked them away from gate with deathslinger, talk about a salt mine.
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This is a really bad argument because the cages were made in response to hook perks.
Yes, there is counter play. Deny the cage by avoiding the trails.
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There are situations like this where you can’t really do anything, like a camping Leatherface. You should have just accepted your friend’s death and teabagged at the exit gates.
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No it wouldn’t, he has to be right against it for 5 seconds for it to move.
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You're taking advantage by playing in comm's with 3 other players, even tho the game is made around solos. And apparently you all had meta perks. The PH was right, and your buddy rage DC, so the dance over the corpse was well deserved
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So you are playing in SWF, with DCing members and because the killer camped in the ENDGAME he is toxic and entitlted?
He did nothing wrong. Why should he leave if the gates are powered and he knews you guys are around him?
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And the killers objective is to kill but you still complain when they try to secure their kill with camping. You are the joke here.
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He wasnt close enough for that to happen
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This is a pretty funny post, it almost feels like a troll attempt.
I mean, the video you show to make us empathize with you contains footage of successful counterplay done well. Not PH's fault you can't dodge his attack afterwards.
Every killer has a right to camp if they want to, especially when the entire rest of the team is right in front of him. What is he supposed to do? Walk away and give you a free escape?
You are the entitled survivor straw-man.
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This thread is more interesting than I expected 😄
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You have to be VERY close to the cage on order to have the cage move somewhat else this pyramid head knew that scenario, so he stays far away enough from the cage but close enough to have his attack reach (which he missed the first time and the person was saved during his cool down)
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When I play survivor I start searching a totem for some Boldness points and a chest because I usually play without items equiped at start and I also like to get chased by the killer. If you think you are good pressing M1 and Space "CuZ Is ThE OnLy ObJeTiVe" ok...
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Youre wrong. Your only one objective is to escape. Gens helps that. Totems helps that. You thought because gens are done you won. This is false. You only win when you escape.
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Also to the main thread there is nothing wrong with camping or tunnelling at endgame. Ragequitting at endgame is ridiculously childish and you shouldn't begrudge the killer and/or your teammates teabagging or whatever on your corpse, not like you can see it anyway. Also as @azame pointed out you don't mind letting slugs bleed out on purpose so it seems more like you only object to certain "nastier" tactics when they're on the opposing side to you, whichever that is at the time.
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I agree with this, the swf successfully baited the pH when going for the unhook and even managed to body block him so the killer can only aim from a distance.
Ph's attack can be reacted to especially from that distance. So that survivor should be more annoyed at themselves for not reacting and dodging the attack.
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Well, this is the life of a standart killer nowadays: camp/facecamp, tunnel and abuse game mechanics. Sadly, it's apretty rare sight to see a good sport killers now.
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A killer can still 4K when all the gens are completed. So they hadn’t lost anything. Until every survivor leaves through an exit gate or the hatch, it’s still anybody’s game to win.
The Pyramid Head did nothing wrong. The cry baby who’d rather DC and get zero BP than just take the L on the other hand...
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I don't see why you think this should've been a lost kill.
Or at least, the Killer seemed to not think it was lost.
As long as a Survivor is in the trial, they should have the ability to be injured and die.
And so the Killer here used the tools available to them and managed to still get a kill in at the end.
If you mean you disagree with this particular method being a thing, then idk what to say because it might be this way forever.
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If he didn't do that, you have all tea bagged him at the exit gate. If he hooked the survivor instead of caging him, you'd have body blocked him, causing him to drop the survivor and you'd have all tea bagged him at the exit gate.
Killers are there to kill, end of.
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I admittedly chuckled at this
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Exactly killer can't do that much anymore when gens are done?
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that guy was just determined to get his 1k i would just leave so that he still loses and cant snowball
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game like this happen to me I mean I got some hooks at the start and mid game but by egc they were all alive and kicking but right as the last gen popped I got someone on the hook they 99% the gate I camped like anyone would but I had noed and the totem was right behind the hooked survivor so they couldn't get it out but try to save him anyways.
long story short I traded hooks with everyone the hook I was using was next to the basement how it turn out I got 2k or 3k if DC counts as a kill but I slugged everyone but it was dead dawg saloon and I lost the 4th survivor who got hatch by crawling to it.
so just because the last gen done doesn't mean survivor won and the games over.
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There is so much wrong with this statement.
- If you camp, you are a scrub. Everyone knows that.
- If you get a DC, the survivor DC'd for a reason.
- Wowie so you're a toxic little guy ain't ya? How about you play normally and not like a toxic boi?
- You are in no position to say that he wasn't "in the match". You provided an in depth explanation of the circumstances, and attached a clip.
- Say sike right now
- Right back at ya bud
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Thats a classic Pyramid head gameplay. well say thanks to devs who implemented a full time tunneling killer.
Funny how people say "omg he dced so entitled" but killers also dc when they get gen rushed or anything happens what is not fun for them.
mindset of killer mains
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- SWF, with all the sweat perks
- one gets tunnelled (in endgame) as damage control
- this leads to one dcing and another coming to the forums to demand action be taken because only three of them escaped
- OP also lets players bleed out on the floor when playing killer as mentioned earlier in this thread but that's ok because he's the one doing it
So yes, some hints of entitlement detected
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Ok so you guys have a good game evade the killer and they camp the one kill they might get. No big deal its to be expected. You guys powered through gens its your objective, the killer secured one kill its their objective. You all wanted to escape together and didn't get to but that really doesn't matter. Everyone had a full game there should be nothing to complain about.
The behaviour of the killer was unnecessary and kind of obnoxious, but it can only upset you if you let it same as flash light clicking and butt dancing they really have no impact and shouldn't bother anyone.
Before people start throwing around the 'entitled' label, what I'm saying is anything goes until folks escape or are sacrificed. An EGC hook camp play is a good way to secure a single kill and sometimes just what is required after a good survivor snowball. Yes you played a better game and technically won but that doesn't mean you deserve to escape.
So after a full game where everyone got to play your friend got downed hooked, and downed and hooked again and basically tantrum DC'd because of it, right at the end of the game.
I don't see a killer vs survivor issue here I see a group of whiny bad sports who should just suck it up and play the game rather than throwing a tantrum about it, and that goes for both sides in this case.
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It's EGC and the dude has no other options but to camp to at least walk away with 1 Kill. What's the problem?
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they want to all escape together but in most games after bad one like this killer wont let that happen if he can get one on the hook.
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