Increase time alotted for Rift Completion

I have done all the challenges in 1, 2, and 3. I'm tier 52. You need to get roughly 18 tiers each tome level in order to stay on track. I've back of the napkin calculated that by doing all the challenges you get roughly 10ish tiers. You have to grind the other 80 shares or roughly 1 shard every two games so 160 games.

If you fail to get all challenges done you have to grind more. I would estimate it takes about 150-250 hours to reach tier 70. That's about 3 to 4 hours per day, everyday, in order to reach it.

TLDR: BHVR is saying without saying it, buy tiers or be prepared to play DbD a lot each rift.

Welcome to battle passes.

In reality though, of all the games i play DBD has the fairest battle pass i have ever seen. You have 70 days to complete it, it has 70 levels. That is 1 level per day. If you ignore challenges completely, it is going to take ~11-12 games to get a level. But challenges from the rift typically give you 3-5 shards. So, if you did 1 challenge a day, and played 5 games, you are probably going to get to level 70 before the end. Games typically last, 10 minutes tops so you are looking at around an hour a day of playtime.

On top of that, the rift costs $10 to buy the premium version. But here is the best part, if you get your rift to level 70 before it ends, they give you back that $10 so you can buy the next one.

Now take a look at other games with a battle pass.

DotA battle pass has an infinite amount of levels (although rewards repeat/stop at around 2k), and you can only get to about 150 before you run out of challenges and MUST spend money in order to level it up. I don't mean like, you CAN spend money to get faster, i mean it literally becomes impossible to level up for free without spending money. Now look at all the best rewards, they often show up in the 200-250 range with some more premium rewards being at 500+.

What about Valorant? Looks pretty fair for the most part, but its a bit sneaky. Each level takes a little bit longer to level up. Which means that you actually need to play more than it looks like. Until suddenly you are at the end of the battle pass and still have 20 levels to go but wonder why.

What about CoD? Generally suffers from the same thing that Valorant does. Every level takes more XP, so it is deceptive how long it actually takes to level it up. On top of that the challenges generally don't reward enough and you require more playtime to level them up.

Also, all 3 of those games don't reward you with the currency you used to buy the battlepass. So you can't effectively get your money back for playing well.

DBD is the ONLY battle pass i have ever seen that is balanced in such a way that i have the ability to finish it without paying money. On top of all of that, i only ever bought the 1st rift. The rest of them i have gotten for "free" from the cells i got from each previous battle pass.

I have a full time job where i have to work from home. I also have a young child who is going to school from home. Between all of that i work, i take care of my kid and spend time with my family, have time after my kid goes to bed to watch netflix or play a game or something with my wife and i still have a couple of hours every night. On top of that, i play other games as well, generally i dedicate an hour or so on average a night playing DBD.

If you can't find 7 hours a week to play, the battle pass is not made for you. Or, you can buy levels to keep up. That is your choice to make. The point i am making is that 7 hours a week is pretty fair, especially when you compare it to other games that expect you to play their game as a full time job in order to finish a battlepass.

You know you can take a break between the release of 3 and the release of 4 and still easily come to 70?

No i didn't. You want more time. It's fair for me to bring in my own experiences because you did the exact same thing in your post. You brought up:

• "Current issues" (whatever that means)
• Crossplay
• Matchmaking Queues

Those are all based on your own experiences and not "anyone elses" either. Because i sure as hell havn't had any problems with "Current issues", crossplay, or matchmaking. In fact, matchmaking has been pretty solid since crossplay, so i dunno man.

You also brought up this:

So i was pointing out the actual math which shows that, you need to complete 1 level per day. Based on how many shards you get from challenges and playing games, that means you are probably going to have to play about an hour a day. If you can't handle that, then don't buy the battle pass. Or, if you want the content, buy some extra levels.

Also way to completely ignore more other evidence i provided about how other games do it. Can you name even a single game that has a battle pass more fair than DBD? Go ahead, i'll wait.

No, it's not just you. They nerfed the progress with the challenges from last rift to this rift for like 6 complete rift tiers.

For me this is the last rift i'm EVER going to try to complete. I will complete this one because I got really far because of the Skilled Huntress trophy grind.

Honestly the way i see it, is that if you put enough time (4 hrs a day on average, though technically less considering daily xp bonus for both sides and archives allieviating this) you can get the entire rift pass again

If you don't the more progress you do, gives you a cheaper rift pass next time (from like 15$ nzd to 5$ nzd)

Theres also free tiers avalible to everyone. No progress is locked behind pay walls (unless you consider challenges with perks or killers, but at the same time, perks are avalible in shrine, and charecters come for the most part in copies of the game for switch/console, and pc players likely have them after the game being out for 4 years so like idk i don't see that as too to big an issue)

I've purchased every rift pass with the previous rifts earnings, because i play a decent amount, weekly, however for people who don't i can understand it being a bit more of an issue. the reason i don't like battlepasses collectively is because it forces you to stress over multiple games, and gives you fomo if you can't say play 4 games at once. but for people who love the game, 4 hrs a day, to maybe 20hrs a week isin't to hard an ask. expecially when there getting free content, free story, free pass if they complete it, and free etc etc.

I'd prefer it being easier to earn rift shards via more challenges though. Ie the rift isin't so much "easier" as theres tougher challenges in it that give more points, like say a "level 4-5" style challenge or two, in the first level of the archives, that is uber hard to complete, but gives ease for the down time between levels, and gives like 100,000 bp and a whole rift tier.

It's intentional. The rift repays you the 1000 auric cells if you complete it, so the only way bhvr makes money is if you fail to complete the rift and need to pay to get a new pass.

They could easily extend the duration of the rift until when the next rift starts.

My advice is, just don't think or worry about the rift and just play normally. Maybe play a bit more every now and then if you get the chance. Focus on having fun and don't worry about the cosmetics.

Actually it makes perfect sense if you understand the basic meaning of the term. The expiration date is already set, changing it sets a precedent. That precedent is basically that the amount of time can be extended after it's already been established. Imo that would be a bad precedent. Extending the next Tome is totally fine but changing it in the middle of the current Tome sets a precedent that I don't think is a good thing. You can disagree that the precedent wouldn't be a bad thing but you can't disagree with the fact that it does set a precedent.

I mean, i typically play an hour or 2 a night, sometimes 3 on the weekends. Sometimes i go stretches of a week without playing at all and i have yet to not get level 70 on a rift without spending money (other than "buying" the premium track)

Apex, fall guys, and rocket league say am I a joke to you?!