Can we get a small hint about next rework?
Please tell me it's going to be a pig/legion.
One word would be enough, just say "yes", thanks
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Pretty sure they aimed about Pig or Clown addons.
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These killers and Clown don't need "just" an addon pass. They need a full rework.
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Pig, Clown or Legion are on my list.
Trapper and Wraith need a lot more addon strength put into their base kits. They are way too addon reliant just to be only alright even then. Even with their best addons it still only gets them to like B tier which is not a spot that's considered good.
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Pig does NOT need a full rework!
She needs half her add-ons changed and that it is. I can count about 10 useful add-ons, with half of them being in families.
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OMG, Pig needs a rework ASAP. Some add ons are just basically useless. But I love playing her.
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I don’t remember where I read it but I thought Huntress was next for an addon rework ?
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Clown is fine. He just needs some minor tweaks, and for players to learn how to use him properly.
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I’d prefer for them to focus on add ons for a killer, rather than a full on rework, and for them to focus more on a MASSIVE pass on perks that desperately need updating, buffing, or reworked entirely.
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Pig needs a decent buff. Nothing crazy, but maybe make her dash attack last a little longer?
Add-on Wise:
-Make Box Skillchecks affected by perks like Lullaby. This fixes a lot of the 'skill check' add ons (of which there are many)
-Replace Utility Blades with an add-on that makes her dash attack longer (Utility blades encourage tunneling)
-Face Mask is fine IMO
-Replace Slow-release toxin with an add-on that makes her dash attack even longer
-Replace Rusty Attachments with an add-on that increases her speed while crouched.
-Make Tampered Timer an Ultra Rare Add-on, and make it reduce the number of available RBT's by 2. Alternately, could make the 4th Box ALWAYS the one with the key, but increase the timer by 30 or 60 seconds. (Whatever felt is needed).
-Change Amanda's Secret to either make her dash attack last even longer, or make her crouched speed faster.
-Change Rule Set 2 to where the survivor can only see the aura of Jigsaw boxes from... a certain distance. Maybe 20 or 32 Meters. This would have a similar affect, but wouldn't push them to do gens instead of getting traps off their head.
-Make Amanda's Letter an Ultra-Rare. Maybe remove the penalties. It's similar to Wraith's Ultra-Rare, though Pig can attack while crouched so she's got that on him. But I'm not sure it really needs a penalty.
Just my opinion, obviously.
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I have the feeling that is going to be ghostface
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Huntress is the next rework. Then probably The Shape.
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Hopefully they are graphically updating The Game, Haddonfield, Ormond or Autohaven anytime soon.😔
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So you are saying that the killer whose power is:
- the most inconsistent in game
- not even doing what it is supposed to do well
- is under full survivors' control
- enabling possibility for the scummiest strategies in game (yeah, RBT tunneling, no counterplay apart from lucky hatch which is least likely to happen than non-toxic rank 1 blendette)
- the worst stealth ability in game, which hinders you more than helps
- barely helping in chase and requires a lot of practice to get any profit
does not need a rework? You sure?
She desperately needs a rework, especially after a few patches that butchered her
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Yes. That is exactly what I am saying.
Pig's current kit is now one of the most important in the game, because it helps deal with so many issues in the game. Her add-ons are also a major issue for her, and she's just a few number tweaks away from being one of the strongest killers in the game.
So, ask me again, as a PIG MAIN, does she need a full rework? No.
You cannot play her like every other killer, she has a more unique playstyle than "Find survivor, chase survivor" like most of the killers, she is the type of killer that you have to plan ahead for and focus way more in GENERATORS than hooks.
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Same with Pig. You just can't play these killers like Billy, Nurse or Spirit.
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Somehow "unique" gameplay didn't stop BHVR and majority of people agreeing that "unique" gameplay of freddy needs a rework.
Pig is boring. There is nothing (at least for me) that is even remotely fun which happens on regular basis while playing Pig. You find a survivor, you put a hat, survivor removes a hat and you either say a curse word if he removes it instantly or say nothing if he wastes 2+ minutes on that.
And when facing Pig you are having regular frustration that you aren't going to be able to search a specific box because killer is patrolling that area or irritation when you've just removed a hat and get a new one.
Also, can you tell me where her gameplay is so specific and unique, that you can't call it "playing like any other killer"? Or are you implying that the killers like Nurse is less unique than Pig, which is not correct.
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Definitely Huntress is next. Doubt they'll change her power much as it's already balanced but her add-ons are getting work.
Then Pig's add-ons. Seen devs awhile back state miss piggy was gettin a look at. Base Pig is fine. They've already done all the tweaks they were going to do.
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Can't agree.
His kit is working well - Portals provide one of best map traversing abilities and Shred is very solid in chases.
Demo is an example of a killer who needs an addon pass - good power but ######### addons.
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I could tell after TWO GAMES as Old Freddy that he needed a rework because his power was counter-intuitive. It actively harmed him by existing. Similar story with Doctor and how his Static Field was only strong in the lower ranks. I also said playstyle, not gameplay. Different fundamentals and mindset to begin with, not just her power.
Pig is boring TO YOU. I personally love playing her, and I think that her toolbox kit is fantastic since you have options for how you will deal with survivors. Not just "do thing in chase" like most of the killers have. Also, don't SPAM the RBT's, save them so that at least one or at maximum two survivors have one on. Their purpose is to essentially eliminate a survivor from the pool of survivors working on generators. If you can't secure a down between hooking the trapped survivor and them getting the RBT off, then I'm sorry but that says more about your play as her than the quality of her kit.
If a Pig gives you a second RBT, then they must really like you or they're terrible as her. Patrolling a box should never be a priority, or even an idea, for a decent Pig. The only time I have ever done so was unconsciously as it was a part of a 3-gen, as in literally in the middle of all 3 generators.
And again, playstyle is different to gameplay in this aspect, or at least it is for me. Pig has more to her than the usual "Find survivor, chase survivor, down survivor, hook survivor, repeat" type of gameplay that most other killers have. Yes, they all accomplish it in different ways, but at the end of the trial, they are all chase-centric. Pig is a toolbox stealth killer based around map control and seeding chaos. You can't play Trapper like he's the Deathslinger, and you can't play Pig like the Nurse. Trapper, Hag, Legion, Doctor and Pig all break the traditional styles of killers and require a different approach. So, yes, Nurse is less unique than Pig because all she does differently is ignore terrain and all Blinking will ever be is another chase-centric power that occasionally doubles up for some mobility. Pig has OPTIONS with crouching, ambush, the RBT's for mindgames, map pressure, stealth for easy first hits and general game stall.
You cannot compare killers to each other on such a small level. Yes each killer is unique, but a chase killer is still a chase killer. Everyone also finds different killers enjoyable. I personally despise Hillbilly, Leatherface and Hag, but there are people who love playing as them but you don't see me asking for FULL REWORKS because I don't like to play as or against them.
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Its Myers or Pig. Both were mentioned on a list of killers who have had all had their reworks now. So one of those two is up next.
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As far as Legion goes, I'd be happy with a change that if I missed an attack that it doesn't completely deplete the special meter bar. I'm fine with the power canceling, but having to rebuild it from zero again is a bit much.
But I feel that if any killer needs a buff it would be Myers. Having to stand around and build up Evil Within just to be effective as a Killer is wasted time that could be used to hunt down survivors. At least make evil within tier 1 more of a threat than it is right now.
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I believe Myers and Huntress were mentioned to be getting looked at soon, so prepare for that.
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next is almost diffidently huntress, she's the last killer that does not meet addon standards
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???!!!
But GF is fine though, including his add ons.
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Nah, GF addons are ######### except CD addons and maybe ultra rare tape
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Personally I think they’re all useful.
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in very specific and on very rare occasions, so 99% of the time you take any addons apart from -CD/Tape/MAYBE mark duration you waste an addon because their value is noneexistant.
Detection range seem to be broken.
Killer instinct duration is a ######### joke, why would you need extra ticks of KI when even 1 is enough to spot survivor
Stalking while not leaning is a ######### joke, why would stalk while not leaning if you can lean
Crawling speed is a ######### joke, the only time these addons are useful is when you meme with them and PWYF
Camera is a budget BBQ/Infectious which isn't very valuable anyway, since you can't crawl on these survivors anyway
what else?
m o v e m e n t s p e e d w h i l e s t a l k i n g
GF needs an addon pass and chewed pen basekit (or plain -10 seconds reduction CD on his power)
revealing rebalance (in dreams, like your night shroud is a switchable mode (which takes like 2-3 seconds) and when survivor "reveals" you, he loses a 'mark' and becomes immune to being marked for like 20 seconds so you have to either crawl on them to land a hit or exit that mode if you don't want to lose mark)0 -
It's most likely going to be Huntress's add ons. She is the only killer remaining who doesn't have the standard set of add ons. I would be surprised if it is any killer other than her.
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yeah, it's probably huntress, though I don't really care, since she is the only killer I haven't even touched in 4 years (3 years since her release)
Even if she gets butchered bc "lOoK aT tHoSe hUnTrEsS mAiNs tHeY aRe oVeRpErFoRmInG aNd iRi hEaDs oP", I wouldn't care.
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Hopefully it's pig. Legion is perfectly fine and doesn't need a rework imo, especially compared to pig.
Trapper is a close second.
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I was desperately hoping Clown but judging by what they posted in the patch notes with the slowdown change its not the case. :(
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