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So, I notice that Killers seem very Add-On dependent for powers. Though I want to main Killer, it seems to me from the little I have experimented, that it might be better for me to focus on a Survivor, first. Get them to Level 15 for the four perk slots, then use my Bloodpoints to get my Killers leveled up. Once I get the Killers that I want to a decent level and have the Perk slots and some add-ons available, then focus on what I want to do with playing them.
Does this sound decent, or am I doing something wrong going that route?
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No, what you are doing is fine. I am currently leveling up my survivors to get all of their Teachable perks, starting with Dwight. Once I get Dwight to Level 41, I will keep playing him until I have used up as many offerings and add-ons as possible (bleed him dry), and use the blood points to level up Meg, and so on. I want to get all of the Teachable perks before I continue leveling up my planned 2 mains: David K and Kate. I'm also going to try to get all of my survivors to Level 10 so I can get their Adept achievements, and go from there.
I am going to do a similar thing for the killers, as I only have Adept Trapper at the moment. Keep playing Trapper until I get his Teachable perks, hopefully get his secondary achievement, then move on to Wraith. I don't know who I want to main as Killer, so I'm not going to bleed the killers dry when I play them.
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What Zombie said is tremendously helpful. Playing both sides will help you learn things you would never learn by playing just one. Also can’t stress this enough but listen to everything. Just because you don’t see a survivor, doesn’t mean they’re not hiding right behind you. One survivor breath or footstep could save you a ton of time. I’d say level up killers for specific perks you want, kind of like how everyone levels up Claudette first. Then fully focus on who you want to main. Also try each killer out to see what fits your play style, because most of them play differently.1
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@ZombieGenesis and @Exyes Oh, I've been playing both so far. Eventually, I'll be a Killer main, but thus far I have been learning both sides of the game. So, no worries there. It's just that after playing Killer, I see how add-on dependent they are. For example, Nurse for the Blink buffs, Trapper to be able to carry more than one trap, et cetera.
I think before I focus on maining a Killer, I'm going to pump them with bloodpoints first.
@CoolAKn Thanks. I don't know about bleeding my guys as I go, but I think that before I "main Killer" down the line, I'm going to feed them BP and levels first. Not having all the Perk slots and some add-ons really sucks.
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Playing as killer you learn a lot about being a better survivor. Also, you need to learn the perks and addons of every killers so you wont be clueless survivor.
What you are doing is fine. I'm currently focusing on survivors meanwhile I try to use all the addons I have of Mikey before getting his prestige I.
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@chococri said:
Playing as killer you learn a lot about being a better survivor. Also, you need to learn the perks and addons of every killers so you wont be clueless survivor.What you are doing is fine. I'm currently focusing on survivors meanwhile I try to use all the addons I have of Mikey before getting his prestige I.
Yeah, I'm, not looking for BP-dump level my Killers to 50 or anything. But I figure around level 20, that way I have the four Perk slots open and some add-ons. Playing them post at least level 15 is rough.
Now, Killers that I just don't care for the playstyle for, such as Hag and Nurse, I'll BP-dump to get the teachables. But that's because I have zero interest in playing them anymore after testing them out. Just not my playstyle. I've never cared much for blinking or teleporting. It's why Tracer sat and rotted in Overwatch.
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To be honest, once you're doing okay as Killer, you'll generate enough BP every match to buy enough Add-ons to always have something.
Though i also never like the idea of "needing Add-ons".2 -
Thanks for all the feedback so far, everyone.
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You will have a lot of fun when you level up Michael at 50. Those addons are interesting and the variety of different builds is a blast. Same for the rest of the killer.
Soon you will have the urge to level all of them in order to get better perks. Right now my favorite survivor is Nea because I have the build I want at the moment.1 -
I'd play killers a good bit to grasp their style on a personal level, and season it with perks, and addons to compliment that style.
It would suck to get loaded down with a lot of addons you don't really want to use while you turned down addons that you wished you hadn't.
Maybe as a hag you want to focus on trap duration and teleport range instead of trap radius, and ended up webbing for trap radius because it sounded good at the time.
Or maybe you wanted NOED ranks but ranked up Ruin instead.
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@Kilmeran said:
So, I notice that Killers seem very Add-On dependent for powers. Though I want to main Killer, it seems to me from the little I have experimented, that it might be better for me to focus on a Survivor, first. Get them to Level 15 for the four perk slots, then use my Bloodpoints to get my Killers leveled up. Once I get the Killers that I want to a decent level and have the Perk slots and some add-ons available, then focus on what I want to do with playing them.Does this sound decent, or am I doing something wrong going that route?
If you are needing to grind, Leatherface offers BBQ and Chili to get points quicker. Myers is a fun play, Billy and Nurse have to skill set to compete on a consistent basis.
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You're perfectly fine with what you're doing right now. It's always good to learn both sides and once you get the perks you want on the characters you want to play then you're all good to go. Just have fun with leveling up and experimenting with different builds1
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Same, I'm not interested in Nurse or The Hag neither but that's what I said of Genji and after a year I mained him pretty well. He gave me Master ha. Never knew I would main a character I wasn't interested at all. Anyway I need to throw some BP in the hag just for Hex Ruin tbh.1
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@PhantomMask20763 said:
You're perfectly fine with what you're doing right now. It's always good to learn both sides and once you get the perks you want on the characters you want to play then you're all good to go. Just have fun with leveling up and experimenting with different buildsYeah. See, the problem that I have is that on PC, the Rank 20 Killer Lobbies absolutely suck. Including wait time and match time, I get about two matches an hour, three if lucky. Have a poor match learning a Killer, and the BP reward is low. But I'm stuck in the match until all four escape or die.
Rank 20 Survivor pops a lot faster. Have a bad match and you're out, on to the next one. And with the faster Lobby pops, it's just a net of more BP per hour of play. Which is always a consideration in a game with a grind.
So, while Killers get more per match, due to the Rank 20 Lobby times versus Survivor, the net BP on Survivor is just better per hour. Obviously, that should change once at Rank 15 and above. But wanting to at least unlock the four Perk slots on my favorite Killers, it's just faster to play Survivor and spend the points on the Killers. Then when I can play them and lobby-time grind the pips, at least I'm not taking forever just to unlock the slots. Especially when I'm already regularly facing Survivors with all four slots open, and I'm only running one or two Perks on the Killer side.
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I would play both sides along side each other. Knowing how one side works will help you know how to play against them. As for which side to pump more bloodpoints into, killers lose their add-ons regardless of if they win or lose, so you might want to stock up a bit more on them. And the Nurse is actually the least dependent on add-ons of all killers alongside the Hillbilly. The killers that rely on add-ons the most would be Trapper, Freddy, and the Spirit. When it comes to bloodpoints in general, killers usually get more per match so if you're looking for BPs, I would play more killer.
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@Kilmeran said:
So, I notice that Killers seem very Add-On dependent for powers. Though I want to main Killer, it seems to me from the little I have experimented, that it might be better for me to focus on a Survivor, first. Get them to Level 15 for the four perk slots, then use my Bloodpoints to get my Killers leveled up. Once I get the Killers that I want to a decent level and have the Perk slots and some add-ons available, then focus on what I want to do with playing them.Does this sound decent, or am I doing something wrong going that route?
It's a good idea, but I would also recommend playing the killers without add-ons and perks in the low ranks so you get the feels on how to predict and mind game survivors. So they make mistakes at certain windows or pallets. So play both sides to figure that out and save BP for killers.
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I played survivors to 15 and stayed on them until i could get the adept achieve from each.
Then i played them all with what was left of addons and whatever perks to 20.
Then i picked a killer and tried each one out a couple times, no points yet.
Bbq and chili felt like, and really did become super good on everyone, so my points went to him first to unlock it.
I played each killer to 40 after that, most liked to least liked. Then same with survivors.
Now im prestiging my nurse which starts everything over again but still lots of fun.
Dont be afraid to use whatever or trying something different. Im using every addon and offering i got on everyone and pumping nurse my favorite.2 -
@Kilmeran said:
So, I notice that Killers seem very Add-On dependent for powers. Though I want to main Killer, it seems to me from the little I have experimented, that it might be better for me to focus on a Survivor, first. Get them to Level 15 for the four perk slots, then use my Bloodpoints to get my Killers leveled up. Once I get the Killers that I want to a decent level and have the Perk slots and some add-ons available, then focus on what I want to do with playing them.Does this sound decent, or am I doing something wrong going that route?
If you want to level up anything you play killer over survivor, there's a fair amount more bloodpoints you can earn on average using a killer instead of survivor.
All the killers are viable without add-ons tbh, they just help you along the way.
Some people will disagree, depends on what you define 'viable' to be.
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There are some killers that are not addon dependant. Hillbilly and Nurse for example. That´s also the reason why they are top tier.
If you want to lvl up a survivor fast, do it with David King. His teachable "We´re gonna life forever" is great at generating points. Since it doubles the points gained through the match. If you want the killer version, you would have to buy Leatherface for his BBQ&Chili.Also, try to kill as slow as possible. Since that generates the most points as killer. While being altruistic gives the fastest points as survivor. Just don´t unhook in front of the killer, unless you have Borrowed Time (Bill teachable).
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@Tsulan said:
Just don´t unhook in front of the killer, unless you have Borrowed Time (Bill teachable).
Yeah, I wish all new players knew that. Played Survivor last night. Every time I got hooked, no matter the match, here comes a moron to unhook me with the Killer mere meters away.
Pissed me off, each time.
Fortunately,. I'd watched videos and streams for a while before buying the game, so I knew all that. This is one of the few games I really looked into beforehand.
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@Kilmeran said:
@Tsulan said:
Just don´t unhook in front of the killer, unless you have Borrowed Time (Bill teachable).
Yeah, I wish all new players knew that. Played Survivor last night. Every time I got hooked, no matter the match, here comes a moron to unhook me with the Killer mere meters away.
Pissed me off, each time.
Fortunately,. I'd watched videos and streams for a while before buying the game, so I knew all that. This is one of the few games I really looked into beforehand.
This game has a steep learning curve, but it´s worth it. I played over 1000 hours. There is no other game that hooked me like this one.
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@Tsulan Yeah, it really does have a steep learning curve. Outside of 20 years playing MMOs and games like the Diablo series, I did Overwatch from launch until a couple weeks ago. Couldn't do it anymore for a variety of reasons, and came to DBD to relax, have fun, and play some of my favorite Killers that I grew-up on (I'm 45-years-old). Moving from a game like Overwatch, where I knew each kit, who they work with, who counters them, all the map routes, et cetera to DBD is like night and day. I almost gave up yesterday after getting absolutely stomped one DBD trial after another.
Then realized two things. First, it has a learning curve and I need to learn the hide-and-seek and mindgames play style. This isn't like Overwatch, Paladins, or Heroes of the Storm. Two, I'm falling back into the whole "competitive" mindset that Overwatch caused me to have, that I came to hate about myself and why I finally left the game. I need to remember that I came here to simply have fun like I used to do in video games before Overwatch. I need to just relax.
All that said, DBD is rapidly becoming a favorite of mine. I've always loved horror. I grew-up on it. I write it for a living. This game is everything that's up my alley. I just need to purge the "competitive" mindset virus that Overwatch put into my mental programming.
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@Kilmeran said:
So, I notice that Killers seem very Add-On dependent for powers. Though I want to main Killer, it seems to me from the little I have experimented, that it might be better for me to focus on a Survivor, first. Get them to Level 15 for the four perk slots, then use my Bloodpoints to get my Killers leveled up. Once I get the Killers that I want to a decent level and have the Perk slots and some add-ons available, then focus on what I want to do with playing them.Does this sound decent, or am I doing something wrong going that route?
YOu will need a lot more BP to get the proper perks for your killers, but on low ranks ( I assume you are low rank) perks dont matter that much.
If you really want to play killer, do it.
One advice though, try to get the perk BBQ and chilli as fast as possible, it really helps with the grind
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@DeadByFlashlight said: YOu will need a lot more BP to get the proper perks for your killers, but on low ranks ( I assume you are low rank) perks dont matter that much.
If you really want to play killer, do it.
One advice though, try to get the perk BBQ and chilli as fast as possible, it really helps with the grind
Having grown up on the original Texas Chainsaw, Halloween, and Nightmare films, Leatherface is one of the Killers I came to play.
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Get BBQ n chili first it will speed up your grinding so much. It doubles whatever your score was, as long as u at least hook everyone once.
I would choose one survivor and stick with them till you get their teachable. I would suggest claudette for self care or David king for were gonna live forever and dead hard is a great perk if used correctly1 -
@F5arTheB5ard said:
Get BBQ n chili first it will speed up your grinding so much. It doubles whatever your score was, as long as u at least hook everyone once.I would choose one survivor and stick with them till you get their teachable. I would suggest claudette for self care or David king for were gonna live forever and dead hard is a great perk if used correctly
Yeah, I at first started Dwight, but switched to Claudette for SC.
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@Kilmeran said:
@Tsulan said:
Just don´t unhook in front of the killer, unless you have Borrowed Time (Bill teachable).
Yeah, I wish all new players knew that. Played Survivor last night. Every time I got hooked, no matter the match, here comes a moron to unhook me with the Killer mere meters away.
Pissed me off, each time.
Fortunately,. I'd watched videos and streams for a while before buying the game, so I knew all that. This is one of the few games I really looked into beforehand.
Same here I was on my way to summer camp (f13) and this fog moved in and I ended up at another campfire (watching hybridpanda). I got the game a couple weeks before curtain call was released on the ps4. Still learning and upping my skill till this day. Go for the perks you want the most. I tried to do it on both sides but ended up investing my points in to survivors some killers. I have just about all the survivors done thanks to the couple blood hunts & the BBQ event. Killers I'm still working on, so far all I have is trapper & hillbilly.
But yeah practice makes perfect
And just have fun out there in the fog1 -
I started out playing alot of killer trying to get all the teachable unlocked, but when I started playing more survivor I noticed that it improved my killer play, I like the balance between the two in a play session, usually start out playing killer then finish off with survivor1
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@Scgamecock86 said:
I started out playing alot of killer trying to get all the teachable unlocked, but when I started playing more survivor I noticed that it improved my killer play, I like the balance between the two in a play session, usually start out playing killer then finish off with survivorI notice there seems to be a slight delay or lag from when I press the spacebar to when the Skill Check actually stops. It's very weird. Do you notice anything like that as Survivor?
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Killers get bp easier. Bbq should be the one of first teachable perks you get if you want to level them up efficiently. But you won' get better unless you play from survivors perspective as well, start with Claudette.
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