Killers: Time to be Honest

II never camp during my matches, I just don't feel it's needed. If I'm going to lose, then I'll accept it. The only time I did was when a Nea t-bagged EVERY pallet she dropped against me as GF, so I facecamp T-Bagged her for the remainder of her life. Looking back, it was pretty low of me to do and I do regret doing it, but it was kind of a heat of the moment thing.

Only during endgame collapse! Endgame collapse is The Purge no rules! Reason being is because endgame is when survivors truly try to help each other, and I'm trying to drain the clock and waste their time

Wow......that's only happened to you once!?

Also you're in a really good mindset, remember killers are here for our entertainment. Idc how many times i t bag and point and send you toxic messages after the game telling you you suck, if you camp (or hit me any sooner than 3 minutes after i've been unhooked) you are effecting MY enjoyment and are the scum of the earth, its too far! I will STILL send you toxic messages AND report you!!!!1!!!1!!

On topic no one "camps" camping is when baby wraiths stand in front of you first hook. Unless everyone just decides to not do gens and stare at you hoping he'll leave at least 4 gens will pop by the time you die. In the EGC or when a SWF group is standing around waiting for the killer to chase one person isn't camping its guarding because as long as the SWF is standing there waving and pointing they're not doing gens and the killer is making the best move possible

There's only two scenarios when I camp (I am rank 3 atm, I main spirit and meme buba/myers)

1) It's a confirmed toxic SWF and I manage to get one in the basement. It's sadistic joy watching a SWF move heaven and earth trying to save their friend in the basement. It almost becomes an entirely different game. This is rare and happens less than 10% of my games.

2) I have zero kills and the gates are powered: If I down one, obviously I am going to camp. At that point it's the most logical thing to do. If you don't, what are you going to do? Take a coin toss and hope you run into someone else or go to the right gate? I don't ever use NOED btw

That doesn't mean I can't patrol hooks but I won't just randomly face camp. That's how you lose the game.

Two Scenarios really wjhere I will camp (I ram rank 3 on both roles)

1) In the basement and its a toxic SWF. It's funny watching them move heaven and earth trying to save their friend. Sometimes the SWF's greatest strength is their weakness. They won't let someone go

2) I have zero kills and the gates are powered. It's the logical thing to do. The survivors have every option to just leave and give me one kill and take their win. 90% of the time they won't and will try to save someone. I've turned this into a 4K once. I got flamed but again, you can take your 3Survivor Win or try. If you fail, it's really not my fault....

I hate camping as a survivor, so I don't do it as a killer. Only exception is the gates are powered and/or open, and I've just hooked someone (especially if it's near an open exit gate). At that point, I really don't have any place else better to be, especially if it's a coordinated group I'm facing. I will at least stay in the general area on occasion when that happens -- facecamping, though, I won't do.

Example as why NOT to camp during EGC? I played a game last night as Wraith against a 4-man SWF. Had one dead, downed someone just as the last generator popped. Hooked that survivor halfway between the two exit gates (it was on Haddonfield). Instead of camping, I patrolled the wall between the two gates and found one of the remaining two survivors partly opening a gate. Chased, downed, and hooked them as the fourth survivor was making the rescue. Caught the other two healing at the other exit gate (which they had 99'ed -- or close to it, but not opened). Downed the unhooked person, and nailed the last survivor just before they could get the gate open, securing a 4K. I would have likely walked out with a 2K instead if I had camped that hook when the gates were powered.

Example as why TO camp during EGC? Played a frustrating match on one of the corn/farm maps as The Shape. Couldn't level up for the longest, chased an Ace who teabagged and pointed it seemed at every pallet he dropped, watched generators popping, Finally stopped chasing and stood at an exit gate near the killer shack with 2 gens left and pretty much gave up. The Ace kept teabagging and dancing around in front of me. I kept leveling up until I was close to Tier 3. Last gen popped, I opened the gates myself and kept standing still. The Ace came right up to me, teabagging, etc. I hit it, he still didn't leave, so I hit him again and downed him. Carried him as far into the corn near the Pig Tree as I could and hooked him, then just stood there. One Claudette tried to make a save, I popped Tier 3, then downed her. Left her slugged and waited by the Ace on the hook. Another Claudette tried to sneak up, I chased her quickly and downed her. Saw the last survivor (a David) approaching, chased him, and downed him. Game went from me inviting the survivors to just leave to a 4K because the Ace wanted to teabag and be toxic. Might be the most satisfying end to a match I've ever had, lol.

No. It's boring, I'd rather run off and kick people off gens.

In that instance it's not camping if they don't let you leave.

I don't camp as a rule. My feeling is we're all here to play the game, and if I stay at s hook and camp it, essentially nobody is outside the over-alruistic hook-farmer going for the risky unhook. In that scenario I'm staying by the hook, as is the survivor I've caught and, if the rest are smart, they're focusing on gens to punish the camping.

Just standing around doing nothing by a hook midgame is bad strategy. If the survivors aren't coming to you then you need to go to them to keep up the pressure and keep scoring points and getting hits and downs. If you camp and nobody comes to you then you will lose the game with one kill and the lowest score assuming the other survivors worked on gens and opened the doors.

Now once the doors are open, if you've got someone on a hook then there's not much else for you to do strategically other than try to make sure they don't rescue the hooked victim. If they successfully rescue them then the rescued survivor can score 5000 points and the person who did the rescue gets 1000 points while you maybe trade points with a different survivor in a chase. So if you're playing for scores and kills then guarding a hooked victim once the doors are open is usually the best play. (If the doors aren't open then you may be better off trying to cut the survivors off from opening them, or at the very least you can score 500 points for opening a 99% door yourself which starts the end game collapse and denies the survivors a 1500 point bonus for opening the door themselves.)

I'll camp the general hook area during EGC, especially if it's been a rough match and I don't have any kills. Also, one time I face-camped a Jake who trolled me all game, just to make sure he died. Everyone else escaped through the exit ten feet away, and it was worth it.

I generally don't like to camp. If I got someone on a hook, I'm going to turn around and look for other people and try to push pressure on them.

But there are times where I have. For instance when I'm playing against SWFs and they are constantly coming to unhook in seconds. It tells me I don't need to go elsewhere, they are coming to me to save their friend. So I stay in the general area but I won't stand in front of the person who was hooked. I try to intercept the people coming to save them.

Face camping I only do if people have clearly gone out of their way to annoy me. Drop a pallet on me, then blind me multiple times in a row, the run circles around me as I'm carrying someone. Hell there's been times I couldn't move cause they all just body blocked non stop with instant heals. That's when annoyance turns into okay, I can be a dick right back.

Rarely, but what do you consider camping, because most survivors that I play against tend to not know that a survivor is forcing me to camp because they are right there looping or coming for the unhook instantly when I haven't even left the area.

its already too easy for killers. When there is a problem with them camping that is how you know it’s true. Don’t even have to try and they still get ez kills.

I camp when it's advantageous to me, like if I know the Survivors are there, I have multiple Survivors hooked close to each other, or if my hook is in the middle of my 3 gen. I'll also camp after the gates are powered because there's nothing else to do at that point. The gates open too fast and can't be regressed. It's quite funny when you get salt messages from entitled Survivors that expect me to follow the rulebook. I'm not leaving this hook when you keep swarming it while injured. I'm not giving you any extra chances to win lol. You guys are making mistakes and it's your fault.

I won't just stand there in front the Survivor, that's boring. I'll be moving around the hook and checking any possible hiding spots nearby.

No, i don't usually camp; it's a bad and boring strategy for both sides and I'd rather go back to putting pressure on the gens. There are a few exceptions.

1 If survivors insist on hanging around near the hook, or following me to the hook, I'll stay there too. Give me time to move out of the area and you get a safe unhook.

2 If the survivor has been particularly toxic to me or the other survivors, they get camped. Had this in one match where 2 survivors were doing everything they could to prevent me from patrolling gens or chasing anyone else; repeating clicking flashlights, blocking me/hooks, running round and round me. Basically they were everywhere I was - turned out to be high rank players against a low rank killer. I did manage to down the worst one and closed camped. Her partner in crime tried for a save and got a whollop (wasn't as good as the first troublemaker). Once the first died, the second soon followed and the last two 3 gen'd themselves. After about 30 minutes of them hiding for ages after I woul break their gens, I managed to catch one and took her to a gen, hit it and left the area. They got the message and finished off the gens so we could all leave the match.

3 If it's end game and I catch you, I might camp - for example, had a match the other day where the survivors could have left but decided to stay around and teabag me in the entrance. When I advanced, intending to chase them out (I'd already opened the door), one decided to run around me, despite being injured. Could have left, got flattened and hooked. There was only one survivor left and she ran off after I hit her when she went for the save - she left her team mate to die.

4 If I know I have an ultra-altruistic team who plan to hook dive or come en-mass without coordinating themselves, I will camp/roxy the area - come on guys, don't make it so easy for killers, or they'll take advantage of the situation. Wait out of sight for the killer to leave, or coordinate for someone to keep the killer busy. Rushing in gets you downed.

@iTsJustTooEasy Op asking Killer players when they camp, not asking Survivor main

Op: camp in endgame is necessary

other times is when I have something to do, I hook them and just go afk. I also see it as a challenge if others dare to unhook.

depends how badly im losing like if i cant hear the sound of my first hook over the exit gate sirens ill do it just to see how good they are at something other that triple stunning or staying hidden