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The blight needs the oni flick and anyone comparing him to nurse is just being ridiculous

The nurse avoids every defense the survivors have the blight doesn’t..it’s stupid that survivors can get outplayed but avoid his attack just because they turn right I don’t care what you say he needs a flick

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  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Yeah... No. If he had that, he really would be stronger than Nurse. Break the pallet and hit them without even the defence of holding W? Hit them before they eve drop the pallet? Zero counterplay?

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814
    edited September 2020

    Oni doesn't have his power all the time. Blight does. That's why you cannot just throw on a flick - the instadown isn't why Oni is so strong. If he had his power constantly, he would be stronger than Nurse.

    And the OP wanted to say that Blight and Nurse have no comparison - Nurse gets wrecked by holding W. That is her default counterplay. She can blink through everything, but if you just hold W it takes her ages to catch you. Blight is the opposite: he has to break pallets and vault windows, but then he's on you immediately. If you don't have debris to hide behind, you're getting hit. And you want him to have literally zero counterplay? To take away any chance of dodging his power? Yeah, that's actually stronger than Nurse.

  • GHOSTfaceP3
    GHOSTfaceP3 Member Posts: 1,364

    I just disagree with you someone made a good point oni has a good flick and he’s a insta down killer whys he not better the the nurse? Or spirit? Or the others above him blight needs a flick end of story

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Because Oni doesn't have his power all the time. Blight does.

  • 28_stabs
    28_stabs Member Posts: 1,470

    No, he doesnt need to be a god.

  • GHOSTfaceP3
    GHOSTfaceP3 Member Posts: 1,364

    that’s why he dosnt have a insta down lol and his turning is like Billy’s and not legions a flick wouldn’t instantly make him nurse tier Because he still can’t ignore pallets and window like she can

  • Nameless
    Nameless Member Posts: 869

    Holding W is good against any killer that isn't Blight... A good Nurse still won't care though because they're confident in their ability to down you in a matter of seconds. That's the essence of the problem with Nurse: a good Nurse doesn't care what you do.

    If you're not outpositioning yourself and not just mindlessly holding W, the killer has plenty of counterplay, especially when the steering is left untouched as it should.

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    I'm confused. What are you trying to say? What are you attempting to argue? You literally just contradicted yourself in the same sentence.

  • Nameless
    Nameless Member Posts: 869

    I'm saying your comparison doesn't hold. I do realize what I said is quite confusing so allow me to elaborate.

    Generally speaking holding W is a good strategy against any killer that isn't Blight. You will also waste sometime against a good Nurse before she catches up. The difference between any other killer and a Nurse is that when they catch up, the chase begins which again wastes quite some time. However this is something the Nurse isn't affected by as a good Nurse will make the chase non existent.

    This is as you said yourself the opposite of the Blight where the first part is pretty non existent but the chase, the looping isn't his strong part as the steering of his power doesn't allow him to use it at loops, unlike Oni. Having a better flick won't change this either.

    Sure there's tiles on some maps that are further away from each other so this is a time the Blight could use his power. A survivor keeping his eye on the Blight and adjusting his movement to what they're doing as well as using debris etc is one of his counters and would still be a counter if his flick were to change. Meanwhile, again the Nurse doesn't care what you do.

    So no you can't compare a killer that ignores every input from a survivor in a chase with a killer that depends on said input.

  • konchok
    konchok Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 1,719

    It's so odd in the forums. Like I expect to see people asking for Blight to be nerfed, but it's not happening. He's so strong already, honestly the fact that he doesn't have a flick like Oni is the only thing preventing him from being entirely oppressive. I think that he's very strong. He's at the top of A tier, the only killers that feel stronger than him in my opinion are Nurse, Spirit, and Hag.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 16,343

    Not many players are against strong Killers from what I have seen. The argument "But they want to loop them for 30 minutes" is flawed and made up.

    The problem with other Killers is the lack of reasonable Counterplay. But Blight does not feel oppressive in a chase. He is fun to go against and while he certainly is a challenge to go against, it does not feel unfair at any point.

  • GHOSTfaceP3
    GHOSTfaceP3 Member Posts: 1,364

    Unless you miss your rush attack because they moved to far right

  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    I will literally get everyone at every loop if you give me an Oni flick on Blight. Plague Bile alone makes every loop playable, instead of just maze tiles and buildings. But a flick, coupled with his speed, will make him even stronger than Nurse. Look at it another way: I've lost 4 games so far. And by "lost," I mean 2k'd, because I haven't had more than 2 survivors escape even with a key, a map, and 2 BNP's. Blight is strong. You are basically asking for a killer with a slightly worse chase than Nurse (only in the sense that it would take slightly longer, but still less that 20 seconds from full health), but much, much better mobility that takes away even holding W, a valid strat against Nurse. That would be OP AF. I don't understand how anyone could think that would be okay.

  • GHOSTfaceP3
    GHOSTfaceP3 Member Posts: 1,364

    Your not listing to yourself are you? Even after the nurse nerf she’s the strongest killer and will keep on .. the blight isn’t top 5 even if he had a flick he’d still be loopqble

  • supersonic853
    supersonic853 Member Posts: 5,547

    The only thing i might think is making the lethal rush a basic attack since it acts pretty much like a normal smack and you already get hit with a stun for hitting it. That or unlock the fricken lunge.

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    Nurse is the best killer in the game assuming you can hit her blink attacks consistently. No killer is as good as Nurse because she simply ignores loops entirely. She’s like a Hag that can teleport and hit survivors without placing traps first.

    Blight is strong though, probably the fourth or fifth best killer I’m guessing. He doesn’t need a buff.

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    Well we’ll see. 🙂 So far all the major streamers seem to agree that he is strong though so I don’t think I’m out of line with that consensus.

  • GHOSTfaceP3
    GHOSTfaceP3 Member Posts: 1,364

    They say his gen pressure is strong and some aspects of his power are but They’ve also said his power needs a flick

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,561

    Personally I found Turning Add-ons help a lot with landing a Lethal Hit.

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    Scott Jund is literally talking about Blight being possibly a new main killer for him. Tru3talent has said Blight would definitely be in his top four killers of he did a tier list. OhTofu has said he’s been getting 4 kills nearly every game with Blight. I can’t remember any of them recently saying he needed a flick. (Back in PTB they all talked about needing him to be tweaked but that was more about his hit box.)

  • BaldursGate2
    BaldursGate2 Member Posts: 994

    He needs a flick for people that are less experienced (like me).

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    On a tangent I actually like to say Blight is kind of the opposite of Nurse in a sense. Nurse is awesome in chases and saves a ton of time in a chase by instantly teleporting and getting a hit. But outside a chase she moves 92% without blinking and when she does blink she has a cooldown period that makes it so that she basically can’t patrol the map much faster than walking speed depending on the map layout. (Teleporting between floors on indoor maps is the main exception.) So her map mobility is ok but her chases are excellent.

    Blight on the other hand has the best map mobility in the game. He can in a single use of his ability cross the entire map in about 11 seconds at Billy chainsaw speed but with the ability to do hairpin turns at walls. He can for instance Rush up a flight of stairs, hit the wall, turn 180 and Rush down the upper floor without stopping, something neither Billy nor Oni can pull off without halting their sprint and restarting it. But in a chase Blight is mostly a 115% footchase basic attack killer with a situational ability to get a Lethal Rush hit now and then if he can line it up well. He’s more like Demogorgon in a chase than nurse, except his ability is even harder to hit with then Demo’s Shred. So he loses a bit of time in a chase but his out-of-chase movement is so great that he’s always in a chase non-stop which more than makes up the difference.

    So to me Nurse is more like a sniper in a way. She slowly goes around looking for survivors or watching for their auras and when she spots one she lines up a teleport and zaps in for a hit. Blight just Rushes around the map non-stop the entire game getting in survivors faces constantly and harassing them into getting hit or dropping pallets over and over. They’re really very different playstyles.

  • Bravo0413
    Bravo0413 Member Posts: 3,647

    Think about what you're before making statements like that... here's a scenario..... a nurse gets a hit on Lampkin the survivor use the burst into a house now a strong nurse would have that survivor down in 2 blinks because "goes through walls" .... same scenario with blight, you waste a couple bounces at the door... and even then the travel speed alone is much less.. partly because blight would be unplayable at nurse speed.

  • TheVVitch
    TheVVitch Member Posts: 224

    His turn add-ons alleviate this issue.

    Being able to flick like oni on command would be OP imo. Blight already has his power available essentially whenever he wants.

  • TheEdMaverick
    TheEdMaverick Member Posts: 101

    The Blight does need a better flick, turning around is his counterplay? really? you can hide behind loops and he can't use his power and if he already reach you with his power hi has a long ass cooldown of 2.5 enough to get distance.


    People, Freddy can start a chance right of the back with his tp, Blight runs fast

    I believe Blight needs a little tweak to ignore dead degrees that right now everyone can do, also, dont forget you can try a zic zac move and it works too lol

  • GHOSTfaceP3
    GHOSTfaceP3 Member Posts: 1,364

    90 might be a bit high but if I outplay someone and rush towards them they shouldn’t be able to turn right and avoid me or a corner I just want a flick like oni something to avoid that problem

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    Nah. once you get a hang on him hes pretty strong. Giving him an easier to control lunge would make him OP imo. I would like a pov height raise tho.

  • DarKaron
    DarKaron Member Posts: 615

    You know, funny that you guys mention the flick...

    Blight ACTUALLY HAS a maneuver I've dubbed the "Point-Turn", where by flicking HARD in the direction you want to go, Blight can lunge, and immediately spin to around 90 degrees in the desired direction before swinging, and lunging, in that direction.

    It's basically a flick, but instead of like Oni where you flick and he turns fast to hit people, Blight's Point-Turn allows him to turn 90 degrees and lunge to hit people.

  • Primalux135
    Primalux135 Member Posts: 1,045

    Have no sense he doesnt have flick his power isnt isntadown nurse can turn around to hit and isnt isntadown either.Devs only release overnerfed killers and then dont buff em,

  • Devil_hit11
    Devil_hit11 Member Posts: 9,073
    edited September 2020

    definitely agree. I think he needs like 5-10 degree more. Blight has little incentive to use all 5 bounces in a chase because its too easy to hard-counter his power with sharp corners. That point-turn mechanic sounds like an exploit if it does exist and it sounds like something that might get patched out if it is a real thing.