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And this is why you use ds as a anti tunnel.
And not as a weapon.(4:16)All it does is make the killer chase you and kill you out of spite. (Also doing it to high mobility killers like blight is a dumb move anyway. Like ohtofus a amazing killer but you can tell its one of his petpeeves by the way he talks.
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Its a good backup, but from what I saw it seems to me that ace was playing like almost any other ordinary toxic or ds abusing player. He could have gotten out and do objectives, but instead let's jump in the locker to grab the killers attention. While it did work, I don't see the worth out of him getting that stun other than points. I don't really watch OhTofu (no offense I don't watch people play dbd too often), but the way he talks does seem to be more of a bad habit rather than an intentional "oh nice dead hard LUL". I get what you mean tho, decisive has its uses (although I don't use it myself).
I take it back, he did say nice dead hard in that way, although if I had to be honest I say it myself whenever I see them do it.
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If someone d-strikes me when I didn't even tunnel, I will literally throw the game to kill them. Especially if they're so smug, that they are repairing a gen in my face, oh you're getting camped buddy boy.
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Yeah I see survivors do this and I hate it. 1 gen done and they use their DS offensively. Well now the killer is gonna be annoyed and knows you dont have DS so congrats you’re gonna be tunneled out and considering how slow gens are in solo survivor you just threw the game for us since you’ll be tunneled out pretty damn fast. Morons.
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Yeah I generally don't really care if I get hit by DS if I'm picking up someone who just barely got off the hook -- that's what the perk is best for. But when you use it to dick around and play like an ass, well, hope you're a real good looper because you're about to learn what actual tunneling looks like.
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Yeah, not all survivors do this.
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This is why unless the killer is actually tunnelling you, then getting in a locker and shoving it in their face is a dick move.
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It's a bit unfair to blame that on survivors. Blame that gem on BHVR.
It's silly to expect people not to use their kit the most optimal way possible. It's like people who whine about Freddy with Pop. Pop seems like it was made for Freddy sometimes. So why should killers intentionally gimp themselves by not using it? Ya know?
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True, but I still dislike that playstyle, just like how people dislike camping and tunneling. If the survivors like using DS that way, power to them, I just dislike it.
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The best part is that when I do that, they accuse me of tunneling them!
Like, come on. I'm taking the punishment for tunneling, I'm going to get the reward: Your body getting sucked up to the sky by creepy spider legs while I kebab your still-hooked hitbox. If you didn't want that, maybe you shouldn't have jumped in a locker just because I happened to be in the area.
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I thought it was very ironic Ohtufu is complaining about a perk while getting a 4K so effortlessly.
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And not all killers tunnel, but you wouldn't know it from these forums where people talk like the only people playing on the killer side are facecamping Bubbas. Plenty of survivors absolutely do this, though. They think if they stun the killer it's a win or something, when in reality they're kind of throwing the game to annoy the killer, depending on the team of course. If the whole team's doing it then it becomes a real headache, although thankfully more than one person doing it is mercifully rare.
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It certainly works on me.
I'm usually really amicable as a killer and I'll almost always let the last survivor escape.
However, torchspam, teabag or use DS offensively against me (especially if you then teabag or spam me) and I'll not only camp you to death, but I'll do my best to wipe the rest of your team out.
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I know my reaction has been the same as Tofu's plenty of times. Someone forces a DS and later on im just like "I bet you wish you still had that DS right about now".
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Ok I had time to watch the video and it's not what I was expecting.
It's not what I could class as an offensive use of DS. This is more, using it carelessly.
Here's what I consider offensive I'll use 2 examples I've seen...
1) Survivor gets unhooked and runs to a nearby gen. The killer takes a swing, survivor dead hards, pops the gen, killer hits them, picks them up and DS. Or maybe they popped the gen during the DS stun. Can't remember the specifics, it was a hell of a play but also not neccesary.
2) Survivor gets unhooked with BT, runs to take a hit for a survivor being carried to the hook (pointless since killer was too close to hook), killer hooks that survivor turns around and knocks this clown down, picks them up and DS. I think they were trying to waste the killers time but with only 1 gen done so far it was a bad play.
My stance as a killer on the locker play is this...
If I see a survivor who has only just recently been unhooked all I'm looking for is a quick slug if I can get it. If there are 2 survivors and I don't think I can slug the guy in under 10-15 seconds I break chase because whats the point when I might not get a hook for it? however some survivors just straight to the locker even if you're not looking at them. Well you just took the chase right out of it and made it easy, and a lot of survivors are bluffing and don't even have DS so you just handed me a 50/50 shot of either a free hook or taking away your DS. Had you kept running I would have ignored you. If I'm not feeling pressured for time then yeah I'll pull them out.
That's me though. There are some players that are determined to tunnel no matter what DS or no DS. Locker makes no difference to these guys because they're gonna pick you up and eat the DS anyway, might as well just run and waste as much time as possible.
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Lol zero skills
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It's so funny how people are being so smug about DS and get mad about what killers do in reaction to being DS when the killer didn't tunnel.
Just because he won doesn't mean DS being used that way isn't bs, just like if noed didn't kill anyone one game doesn't mean it's fine.
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Personally i understand forcing it if ya have to on deathhook since your gonna die but it was kinda careless and smug to use it like the guy did.
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"(Also doing it to high mobility killers like blight is a dumb move anyway)"
I love this part "doin it vs high moblity killers is dumb .. so doing it vs weaker killers is smart?
And you guys wonder why only few killers are played in reds...
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Kinda yeah its bs to do it to low killers like michael since itd take so long to catch back up and youd lose so much momentum in the trial when getting hit by it.
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I'm sorry to say but...DS isn't really anti-tunnel, it's a whole minute of immunity for nothing, if it was really anti-tunnel, DS would deactivate by either
-Getting healed
-doing a gen
-Cleansing a totem
That would be a proper anti-tunneling perk, not immunity
Edit: this is also why I love Pyramid Head's cages, you cannot use DS and can't be toxic with it, we needed a killer like him tbh!
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