Why *Shouldn't* Killers Camp, Tunnel, Mori, NOED etc. ?

To be honest, it's a fair point.

Lets make some rules for survivors too...

1. Gens cannot be completed within 60 seconds of each other

2. Each survivor must get in a chase at least once per game

3. You can't drop a pallet more than 3 times per chase

You break any of those rules and you are a toxic survivor.

Might give them a go myself tomorrow, see how the games play out. Not well, I assume 🤣

I don't like camping because if it's first hook and they just sit there then I lose all of my points. In the same way killers don't like being abused with those flashlight users (Not the ones who are respectful, the ones who ACTIVELY LOOK FOR YOU AND PALLET SLAM AND ALL THAT BS TO BLIND YOU LMAO) as well as the survivors that are running farming perks (which also ruin it for other survivors if they aren't careful), survivors don't like getting f'd over and having people play like a jerk. The point of the game is to win. There are ways of doing that-- with a good group of survivors, NOT toxic players in general) that will allow both sides to have a good time. Hook, slash, damage, whatever, but getting tunneled while 3 gens pop is not fun. I'm sorry that some of you have met bad people on both sides, but I like to come out of those matches knowing that I'm playing the game in a way that allows everyone to have a good time. So, on that note, good luck in future matches and do your best :)!!

Im hearing "THEY" from all of you, ######### people its "US" playing. (some of us play both sides and have fun doing both.) its not survivors fault that you prefer to be the aggressor, and its not Killers fault that survivors feel they have to gloat when they escape because you may not be the best player.. it is everyones fault for choosing up sides and feeling the "US" against "THEM" syndrome. Most of us play to have fun and earn some blood points. i haven't been playing this game for all that long, probably a total of 3 months and i'm not really great at it, but i was told #########, uninstall, you suckwithin the first few hours of playing the game. AND YOU WONDER WHY THIS COMMUNITY IS SO TOXIC?

try teaching people instead of belittling them because they haven't been playing for 4 years like you have. maybe a bit more understanding and a little less EGO, and the game might be fun for everyone.

my 2 cents. agree or don't.

"let the trolling begin"

Survivors are also expected to play/follow certain rules. You just listed them yourself.

Killers complain about them in these forums every single day.

Killers are self serving and want to inflict pain. If they sit in front of a hook watching someone hang all match, they’re denying themselves that pleasure to any real extent. Furthermore, if they only target the rescued survivor, then they’re limiting their spread of agony and terror. No killer wants to see 75% of their potential victims escape unscathed!

Moris are a sweet treat, but wasted if the survivor doesn’t get to develop a sense of true dread first. They should go through the agony of 2 hooks and at least 4 attacks first!

NOED is fine.

Everyone should just play as they want to play. I've played 10 survivor games today and have been tunneled 4x, face camped 2x and mori'd 4x although 2 of those 4 tunnel and mori overlap as I was tunneled off hook into a mori and you know what... I don't care.

I had fun, I ran around, I did some gens, I escaped a few times even after an attempted tunnel and if I got mori'd (even after 1 hook) I watched the animation because some of them a really sick, I love em. Then I queued again and still didn't care, thats the best part about this, its a game and it doesn't matter. I de-piped a couple of times, pipped up a couple of times, black pipped and am a level higher than I was when I started but again who cares.

I've played about 10 killer games one serious hook sabo grief squad that really powered through the gens but with it going south I switched to tunneling out one guy and camping the other in the egc for a very salty 2-2. My response gg wp. I got destroyed tonight for about 6 games and finished out with 3 great games on Hag Trapper and Doc, completeing a few rift challenges. People t-bagged, clickity clicked, pointed, post game chat abused me but again I don't care its a game. At least 6-8 people have keyed out an escape on me tonight and I don't care. I've also had some great post game chuckles with good people who can game like adults, people like that make the game better.

I also burned 4 moris, one useless netting me only one kill, (they were very good), one totally destroying everyone de-pips single hook mori run with legion for a daily, and the rest I played em if I felt like it. I'm one rank lower today than I was yesterday and I DON'T CARE.

Its a game its fun, we all need to stop the whining, the moaning, the no counter play, delete mori's/keys cry baby overeactions and just play the game.

Beacuse its meant to be fun, if its not why play?

(Numbers are estimates I really don't keep track of this #########, I have a real job to work at this is supposed to be just for fun).

I'm just going to echo the sentiment that Killers seem to be held to a different standard than Survivors. I get part of the reason why is because the killer is literally trying to end the match, and sometimes that means a survivor is out super fast. But what is the Killer supposed to do? Politely wait in a corner, facing a wall, while each Survivor gets their full three hooks? That's obviously an exaggeration, but it sometimes feels that way.

The main problem is that we seem to often forget that the Killer is supposed to have fun also. Yet a lot of salty Survivors seem to be under the impression that anything they personally do to give them the edge (certain perks, body blocking, voice chat, etc) is fair play, and anything the Killer does is rude and trying to ruin their fun. Like a match can never be fun if they don't escape, and screw the fun of the Killer, they don't matter.

I know it's deeply unpopular with the Survivor main crowd, but I well and truly believe SWF with voice chat is ruining an exceedingly large number of games for the Killer specifically and to a degree, harming the game as a whole. It goes entirely against the spirit of the game, and only serves making things easier for the Survivor and often impossible for Killers. Especially early to mid rank Killers that may just be trying to learn the game still. Killers don't have an equivalent answer to it. They're alone entirely, so it's not like they can just chat with someone to level the field. Now, I know that some SWF are literally just friends playing together, and most of the time, that's fine. I don't mean them. I mean the try hard groups that can never ever let the Killer even have a glimmer of hope, followed by being rude in post game chat to the very Killer that they already likely annoyed for 5-15 minutes. Cause god forbid they have fun too.

I guess my point is, as long as there are Survivors that can't have fun without a full team escape and don't view the Killer as another person rather than just a punching bag, it's just always going to be this way. Where Survivors cry foul whenever the Killer does anything to counter their own game tilting/sometimes breaking shenanigans. It would just be nice if Survivors were held to some kind of standard of fair play.

Tbh most survivor think a Killer HAS to obey these rules (which is wrong: we do it cuz we are nice players or want to challenge ourself).

Tunneling / Camping (talkin about makin sure a survivor dies after he reached second hook not face camping from the start) is doing your objective a efficient way (and this is a fact).

Some salty survivor are super offended by Killers abusing their weakness when they do the same by doing gens as fast as possible (you could do it slower when you see the killer is struggling but will you slow down?).

Noed: Its just a revenge perk after you lost the game a good Killer will bring perks to help win the Game. Nothing wrong with it cuz they can just do bones to counter it and even if they die to noed they still had a full game of making bloodpoints.

Mori: Pure Bullshit (similar to Keys). Being able to speed up Killing is not very good for the Game (they should only work after 2 hooks).

So in the end play as you wish (just dont use moris unless the devs force you with dailys and challenges).

These are all good reasons not to do some of the things on the list and when to do some of them, but none of them are reasons to tell someone else not to do them. Like I said play how you want to play. There is no rule book anything goes until death or escape.