Survivors DC like no tomorrow
Honestly this is just ridiculous. Survivors DCing all day:
- get hit first --> DC
- get put in basement with Bubba (not camping) --> DC
- not getting a chance for DS because Pyramid Head --> DC
- Realizing the killer is Spirit --> DC
Over the past 3 days I played like 50 matches or so and in 39 AT LEAST 1 survivor DCed.
There needs to be some better punishment in my opinion
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You mean there need to be a punishment becaure right now there is non and i don't think they will put one .
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Yeah, exactly
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Confirmed. But I can also add that this month I had a pretty nice streak of just rare tunneling attempts or something like that. The last 5 days it is more like 80% of the games being PURE and obvious tunneling and camping, including mori off the hook.
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If you get upset over people trying to have fun but failing to do so because of this absurd community, then I think you're the one in the wrong here. But that's just me, don't worry about what I think.
I do agree that DCing upon first hit/down is stupid. Everything else I said? Completely fair, if they're literally struggling to play the game normally for more than 5 seconds.
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Getting Mori’d off the first hook is not fair, nor fun. Until they make the requirements to kill a Survivor with Mori a tad bit more difficult I don’t see DC’ing stopping. Also, Keys are not fun to go again yes, but those at least require some work on the Survivors end. They actually have to do gens to get hatch to appear (unless of course people DC/they are the last Survivor)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Stop comparing moris and keys. They're not equals. As a survivor, you could just Blendette-in-a-bush your way through the entire match and still get a free escape at the end if you have a key. A mori at least requires the killer to do something.
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I agree. The tunneling is just the norm now.
Do killers just care so much for 4ks they don't want to even git gud?
Just tunnel people out of the game with no concern for gen pressure
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The excuse survivors have given me about the second point is that the game was already lost, I even had a few dc for the hatch and they weren't even being slugged but healthy, the sooner the penalties come back the better but i won't get my hopes up.
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The DC penalties have been deactivated 3 times because of hackers, they need to come up with a better punishment for people who repeatedly DC.
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Everybody compares Mori’s to Keys every time its brought up. Have you been living under a rock?
Also, don’t know if you play Survivor but its impossible for a Blendette to hide in a bush the entire game, crows exist. Either way, a Killer has to have a 3K for that Blendette to even have a chance at hatch, which is a W for me as Killer, don’t know about you. A mori requires the Killer to tunnel off hook, press R2/RT/M1 and remove a whole Survivor out of match. Thats not even close to genwork, especially if you’re playing against Survivors who potato/are bad at looping.
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That's the entitlement speaking out of you I guess. And when you speak of absurd community, do you include yourself with this attitude?
So t-baggin prevents you from playing normal? Besides that I escaped against enough Spirits, Nurses and Iri Huntress, as well as 4k-ing 4-SWF with object and whatelse on the list. Running this crap doesn't mean the player is capable of using it.But if you want to throw before you find out, it's your choice, and your problem to deal with the feedback. It is still always possible to get 3 gens done to allow a hatch escape for at least 1 person, probably even finding a key for more than that. But hey, not everyone likes to experience an outplay like that
The minimum for an early hatch escape is 3 gens, which is 60% of the objective. Being able to mori someone means to down someone twice, 66% of the objective. People forget about that. Agreed that mori off the hook is still no fun, but also mostly just possible when the unhook is plain stupid, like in front of the killer
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I can agree to disagree. I’ve seen Killer plays that negate/contradict your post. Either way, like you agreed with me: Mori off the first hook is unfun and unfair, period. I’m not complaining about dying, I’m sure my S/D ratio is garbage and I’m okay with that. I just want points and being Mori’d off first hook prevents that and pipping.
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Survivors DC because they don't want to play against your bullshit builds or easy-mode killers. I love how I only ever see the ones complaining about people disconnecting are killer players that got their stack/mori/tunnel/camp/forever build/Freddy/Legion/Spirit/iri-head denied.
If you want to play in an unenjoyable way, expect people to not want to play against it. No DC penalty will ever stop it - in fact a hard DC ban in this specific game will just greatly reduce the amount of people that play the game, which I believe the devs deserve to see.
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What BS builds do you speak of?
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Oh yes. Survivors only DC because killers are playing scummy, of course. I guess me chasing and downing survivors with any killer is too unpleasant for them. I should instead wait in the corner of the map and let survivors finish then gens, then watch them leave.
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I had survivors dc against my trapper just for downing them in quick succession, there is only two reasons to dc a gamebreaking bug and real life emergencies, if you dc for any other reason just stop playing the game no one wants to play with a big baby that flips the board when they are losing.
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What exactly do you mean? That there are killers that play like crap and get the unfun 4k? That does not contradict my post, all I said was, you throw games that can be fun because you are not willing to give it a chance. Otherwise explain what you mean.
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How else do you propose they go for the 4k?
Its odd that you would abuse a mechanic just to deprive another player of going for a perfectly acceptable goal in game.
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Mori doesn't require you to tunnel off hook. I just requires a hook, when a mori gets used is up to the killer and unless its a survivor sided snowball requiring a quick take down, then its more blood points to re hook than to 1 hook mori.
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Or something needs to be done about the WHY. But of course thats no option. LOL
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What can you do about DC's after being hit first?
Kinda, you go to check the gen in the first time, you see survivor crouching in the corner, you hit him, he DC's. At which point the game became unfun for him? How can you fix it?
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I'm not abusing anything. I'm not going to be left on the ground for three minutes till I bleed out cause they can't find that fourth survivor. That's wasting my time and preventing me from moving on and joining a new game.
Killers aren't entitled a 4k just cause they think they did good, just as survivors aren't entitled to survive every match. If you're going to leave me on the ground, I'm leaving the match.
And before you cry that I don't understand how frustrating playing killer is, I also play killer and have no issue getting 4ks without slugging. Most of my games end when there are 2 or 1 gens left, so hatch has spawned and I mostly came across it already in a chase. Even if I didn't, it gives the survivor an equal chance to escape, just like how I have an equal chance to find them or hatch first. And if I get a 3k, then it's the same if I get a 4k, gg wp glnr.
Killer mains truly don't understand how annoying and frustrating it is to just sit there, slowly dying because they don't believe in their own abilities to find the last person. They deny themselves the challenge of the final race at the end.
That huntress I said I dc'ed for was literally using me as bait and it got 2 of my teammates killed because of it. You know how crappy that makes me feel, that I was used as bait and I played a part in getting my team killed because they chose to be nice and try to save me? It makes me feel awful. The last guy, Felix, got me up but huntress was ofc right there and literally shook her camera no at me cause she knew I was too far away from any hook so I'd wiggle free, so she downed me and left me there again and went after Felix. I just had enough and left, and a second later he had gotten hatch. I paid for dc'ing, forfeiting all the bloodpoints I earned, running killer around for 3 gens, unhooking and healing all my teammates, doing 3 totems including a hex totem, and doing 2 gens and a half. But I'm fine with that because I let my teammate have an equal chance to win.
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Even the biggest defenders of Spirit would not say Moris are weaker than keys
The ability to immediately turn the game into a 3v1 after the minimal work has been done is absurdly broken
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Except they both give you free and easy wins, moris are actually slightly stronger than keys. They are comparable.
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Are you really suggesting to remove/nerf/change the ability to M1? Since OP is getting DCs just because they are injuring someone.
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The DCs are running rampant right now. I've been getting them in both killer and survivor matches. I understand the frustration with moris. My big thing is that some of them really suck, so why waste them on killers that are no fun to see. Also getting killed after one hook feels like a huge ######### you from a killer. and ends your game way too fast. I had a killer that at least waited until the final hook to use it, I was dead either way. not all hidden killer offerings are moris
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I had a 3 man key escape tonight. Felt cheap, but nothing comes close to Object in terms of unfairness except maybe Ebony Moris.
None of those actually justify DCing since they are all parts of the game.
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"cause she knew I was too far away from any hook so I'd wiggle free"
Yeah that sounds like the appropriate time to slug. Unless you want to crawl to a hook. If you actually believe she should have let you get up for free that's very entitled. I would hope that's not the case.
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Y'know people are all like "Ahh the robots are taking over" and then I see posts of people justifying hatch escape DC's then I'm all like "Welcome my robot overlords".
Bots can't come soon enough.
But yeah I've DC'd from games that are just straight No Fun Allowed, so I've sinned too. Although yesterday I seen someone running in place then drop dead then the game froze solid for 15 seconds later in the game, so maybe the console framerate issue is to blame. I mean if your car engine isn't running right it stalls.
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There's 2 posts on this page of 2 killers DC. One is from survivor looping killer. Other is from killer because they didn't get map they wanted. Killers DC for dumb reasons too. With it being 4v1 the odds are just on survivors to do it more. They do need the penalties back because it is a noticeable amount of DC when they are off. I'd say look at logs of people DC while penalties are off and manually ban those people until DC penalties are back.
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I should of explained it better. I would of wiggled free cause she picked me up and put me back down twice to bait my team to come in. That's why if she would of picked me up again, I most likely would wiggle free. But that wasn't my fault or rng with hook spawns, she did that purposefully to lure my team in with no intention to ever hook me, but to just let me bleed out.
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Tbh It's been the console players for me who have been DC'ing, atleast just in my past few games today.
They'll DC for the dumbest reasons.
>first down = DC
> game loaded = DC
> AFK = DC
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Oooh. Yeah that's pretty annoying. Its situations like this that make me wish we had a "die on floor" button when there's only 2 survivors left and you've been on the floor for a bit (like 10+ seconds or so), or something similar.
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Yeah I'd actually love that. I could keep all my bloodpoints and not feel bad or helpless about being used as bait or a unwilling game continuer so killer can find my last teammate.
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The DC bans can’t come back fast enough. If it makes these ragequitting crybabies feel annoyed enough to stop playing altogether then awesome, they won’t be missed.
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Yeah, I feel like people have been disconnecting a lot the past few months. I feel like 1/5 of my survivor games and 1/4 of my killer games have somebody d/c. Today I played a killer game where two survivors disconnected when they went on death hook, which is just -- I guess -- an attempt to deprive me of getting my points or my rift challenge?
It was confusing, because it felt like a pretty well-balanced match where they were making steady progress on the gens and I was making steady progress hooking people.
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Sigh... I never said that the killer was entitled to 4k or anything else. I only asked what you propose as an alternative if they go for the 4k, which is part of the game and anyone can go for. I also am not about to cry about how frustrating killer is, but nice attempt to counter my point with irrelevant clichés. Also I like the way you go into the "killer's don't understand how survivors feel" trope though right after accusing me of going to do the same for killers.
Yes I mainly play killer but I also play both sides and I don't DC when I'm slugged because its part of the game, you may get picked up you may not, but DC'ing is abusing a mechanic to force an earlier game end.
If you don't want to lie there, fine play how you want to play but you can't get stroppy when someone calls you out for it.
I don't know why you feel so awful for your team mates getting killed because one killer used you as bait on the ground... that's the game we all signed up to play, kudos for the killer for being able to leverage a wounded individual for extra kills.
"You paid to DC" no you CHOSE to DC.
Yes the killer was being a bit obnoxious but it sounds like you had a full game given all you listed you did, but then couldn't stand the few mins on the ground at the end so you DC and rage out. Can't you see how that's kind of a you problem.
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Ok I see what you mean by 'paid' for your DC now. If you want to justify your DC by saying you payed in blood points and are ok with it, then go for it you don't need the forum's approval to DC.
There is a reason they penalize you for DC though, you're not supposed to do it.
Slugging for the 4k isn't toxic. I'm sorry you feel it is but frankly its not, its more scummy to exploit the DC for the hatch than it is to slug for a 4k.
Also if you decide to DC because you are annoyed isn't that kind of a rage quit? or maybe an annoyance quit if we are splitting hairs.
I'd hate to say it to but the killer is not responsible for your fun just as you are not responsible for theirs.
Yes there are obnoxious behaviors on both sides but its hardly worth getting annoyed at and you can't just assume that another player is toxic because they don't play to your personal set of game rules.
I'm afraid if you are purposefully DC'ing with the intent of robbing someone of a 4k because you are annoyed by them, then that is a great example of toxic behaviour.
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I would have had a 4k with myers if the obsession didn't DC on my shoulder in a game a few weeks ago. I'm a casual killer so I really don't care if I get a 4K or not but still.
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I didn't ask for anyones approval. You're just assuming I did for whatever reason. Ive been playing for 4 years, I don't need anyone's approval.
So it's okay to slug for a 4k but I can't kill myself voluntarily? I'm giving the killer his kill, but I'm not wasting any time with it. There is no skill required in slugging for a 4k thus it shouldn't be respected. If you're going to slug me and make me bleed out without having any intention to pick me up either for a 4k or for using me as bait, I will dc. I'm not having my time wasted and I'm not being used to help you get easy kills. I don't respect people like that.
Did I say I expect people to play by some made up rules. No. I didn't, so stop with the forum coin terms. I am taking myself out of the game, that isn't making anyone play by my rules. If anything, you seem to be the only one wanting to force people to play with your play style.
I never experience players dc'ing in my matches when I'm killer. I don't tunnel. I don't slug. I don't camp. I play in a way that is fun for not only myself but others as well. Everyone in the match including myself gets a ton of bloodpoints and almost always pips. I usually get 4ks but I will every other match get a 3k cause a survivor got to the hatch before me. I'm constantly getting better because I don't rely on scummy unfun tactics that only rank 20s should be using. If you can only get a 4k by slugging, I simply don't respect you enough to give you the easy 4k. I'll accept a defeat when I get outplayed or even if I make a mistake. But not if you do cheap nooby plays that literally have 0 counterplay.
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This is a toxic behaviour. Slugging does not earn your respect but DCing to give your team an obvious advantage while leaving the killer in a bad spot does, right? Leaving a match does require skill or did I misunderstand?
It is a miracle that you don't face many DCs as a killer but unfortunately your games don't represent other killers' experience. Not everyone is as good as you and can easily get a 4k. It may feel annoying to you to be slugged but you have to respect the other players as well since you all play the game for fun.
Dont be selfish and ruin the killer's match or expect the same treatment of survivors by "annoyed" killers.
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They have a punishment coming in December, when a survivor DC's they get a time penalty and it will in crease every time they leave it was in one of the patch notes when they added the timer on to PC and then took it out for some reason just to put it back in sometime in December.
Also, idk if anyone else noticed but they also made it so that now when someone DC's they only lose 1 pip, not 2... It's almost like the devs are trying to find every which way to side with survivors... Prove Me Wrong.
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The only way a survivor gets outplayed is if they make a mistake...
Personally I don't have a problem with slugging I do have a problem with killers forcing 3 gens every game, that ######### is boring and needs to be stopped especially when you're solo and survivors have no idea what the killer is trying to do and you're the only one going for the gen to prevent the 3 gen.
Also, why would you DC at the end of a game? That's like killers DCing when the gates are powered, literally pointless. You've just wasted your own time playing that match and gained nothing from it so why DC? Yes it is annoying but killers are going to do it regardless, why? I don't know, I do not slug for 4k because I just want the match to be done with at that point as a killer mostly because I don't have patients.
To be honest, I think most people slug for a 4k because they see their favorite content creator slugging for a 4k but that's just my assumption.
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A "give up" button is probably the best idea in most situations, they should add this to the game AND/OR make it so you have to stay in the match for 'X' amount of minutes before you can use it.
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I'd really love to see some dc statistics. I can count the amount of killers I've personally seen dc on one hand despite the role being arguably more frustrating. Not only that but the killer can do it guilt free since they don't have anyone relying on them and instead just end the match. So why is it that survivors do it so much more often than killers? I really can't wrap my head around it.
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Did you not read my post fully? I explained why I left. It wasn't just cause. I was evening the playing field. Its not fun being slugged and made to wait out your timer so the killer can use you as bait or to stall to get an easy 4k. I don't play survivor to be used for boring, time consuming, nooby and cheap tactics.
Also OhTofu, one of my fav dbd content creators, never slugs and he gets 4ks like almost every game. Maybe if more people played smart and didn't sweat or use cheap tactics then the game would be more enjoyable.
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All these players confessing to a bannable offence on official forums...
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I think you don't get the point. You are NOT supposed to leave no matter what. You consider slugging toxic? Ok but there are people who do not view it like that. It is part of the game. DCing however is not intended to be used and exploited to gain any advantage which is why there should harsh punishments for leavers. If you don't like, then maybe another game might be a better option for you.
Also using a good played like Tofu does not make your argument valid in any kind of way. He is good and does not slug. Does that mean I'm not allowed to slug? No. Does it mean slugging is "toxic"? No. It only shows that really good players do not need it and nothing more.
Sadly not everyone does amazing as him or you every match and I'm sure you would not like the idea of 9 out of 10 matches being 4ks.
Btw a killer's objective is to kill the survivors and slugging is a legimate strategy to reach that goal. That means they are playing the game and not wasting time even if it appears to be that way to you.
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Slugging is the most noob tactic there is aside from tunneling and camping. Anyone who defends those tactics are a joke and I don't take them seriously. The devs have catered to killers for too long. They cry that survivors waste their time. Until the devs offer a way to just die if you're slugged for longer than 30 seconds then I will continue to dc. I'm not wasting my time cause red rank killers with op add-ons are still bad and can't use skill to earn their kills.
Also ive been playing this game for 4 years so I think I'll stay, thanks :) the dc penalty is actually braindead and needs to be changed. The stupidest thing a company can do is punish you by locking you out of playing their game. That's how you lose players. Make it so you either lose bloodpoints or you earn 75% less xp and bloodpoints for future matches.
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Can confirm - these are all on 2nd down or death hook survivors who have "played" at least a few minutes of the match but decide that 5 seconds to the hook is far too much to not pull the plug. There are alot that dc on load in or first down too that I dont even bother counting anymore - What exactly is the perfect storm of conditions a survivor needs to play the game?
It goes both ways though... quite a few killers (2 out of 5 for me) that gets looped for a few gens just immediately unplugs in a fit of rage... god forbid they lose their Hex runes too against a solo queue squad (Basically either me looping or just breaking every single totem on the map alone...)
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