Camping Basement DOor
Yesterday I was on the map Iron Works Of Misery and I was in the basement in the middle building. Survivors were trying to get me but the Wraith was blocking the door when he was invisible. I wasn’t mad that he camped me but the fact that he body blocked the door so no one could enter.
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Thats an intended feature.
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The only time I do it is I use ti and have a basement hook and I stand at the stairs throwing hatchet's trying to slug the rescuer then I hit the basement to see if there hiding in locker (lol the amount of the time I've been accused of camping when I've caught them in one or when I saw scratches at near the basement and checked like a good killer lol) or if I see a heal or sc active with nc0
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i do this for the LOLs sometimes xD
like once a year...
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your name is ironicIdvntcare said:Yesterday I was on the map Iron Works Of Misery and I was in the basement in the middle building. Survivors were trying to get me but the Wraith was blocking the door when he was invisible. I wasn’t mad that he camped me but the fact that he body blocked the door so no one could enter.
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
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@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
Agreed, blocking the stairway and hitting the survivors is intended, not blocking the survivors from unhooking the person, I do believe that is holding the game hostage. (or something like that)
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Isn't this basically the same as what Face camping used to be except only on certain maps?0
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I play on PS4 too. I forgot to say
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@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Isn't this basically the same as what Face camping used to be except only on certain maps?It was not certain maps, The killer used to be able to completely negate someone from being pulled off of any hook on any map. They did not intend for it to be used that way so the changed it, they do not intend for killers to completely keep survivors out of the basement to negate them from unhooking someone either.
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I didn't say Face camping was only for certain maps I'm saying the thing this thread is about is only for certain maps.KillJiggy said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Isn't this basically the same as what Face camping used to be except only on certain maps?It was not certain maps, The killer used to be able to completely negate someone from being pulled off of any hook on any map. They did not intend for it to be used that way so the changed it, they do not intend for killers to completely keep survivors out of the basement to negate them from unhooking someone either.
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@KillJiggy said:
They do not intend for killers to completely keep survivors out of the basement to negate them from unhooking someone either.When the devs went over their Report/Ban System revision, they said that body-blocking to secure a kill was not reportable. If the killer trapped someone in the basement, they weren't on a hook being sacrificed, and it's been 5+ minutes then it's taking the game hostage.
If the devs truly did not intend to let killers keep the survivors in/out of the basement then they would have made the stairs wider (and they still can if it's really such a big issue).
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@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
I didn't say Face camping was only for certain maps I'm saying the thing this thread is about is only for certain maps.The stairs and basement are identical on all maps. There is only 1 basement asset.
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Yes but sometimes you can't completely block the basement as survivors can fall into it. And anyway this isn't anything bannable because it's not holding the game hostage or anything like that. I've noticed that you can only block off the basement on certain maps as on most they seem to be able to push past if they fall into it instead of running down stairs.Kaelum said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
I didn't say Face camping was only for certain maps I'm saying the thing this thread is about is only for certain maps.The stairs and basement are idential on all maps. There is only 1 basement artifact.
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The killer can always block survivors from exiting the basement, and you are correct that only certain basement spawns can also prevent entry. As for body blocking, there is only one type of body blocking that is reportable. That is when one survivor intentionally blocks another survivor from running away, allowing the killer to catch the blocked survivor. It must be intentional though, and you must be able to prove that it was.
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@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
It reportable if the survivors cannot leave until they D/C.
If they're on a hook and they'll die anyway (and thus be able to leave the game without pressing Leave Match), there is no problem with that.
Similarly, if the survivors abused an exploit that made it impossible for Killers to move/play the game without D/Cing, that is also reportable.
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So many LF and Bing Bongs do this to survivors. Not sure why anyone would want to do this... Apparently some find it amusing.KillJiggy said:@Blood_Coil_Viper said:
Isn't this basically the same as what Face camping used to be except only on certain maps?It was not certain maps, The killer used to be able to completely negate someone from being pulled off of any hook on any map. They did not intend for it to be used that way so the changed it, they do not intend for killers to completely keep survivors out of the basement to negate them from unhooking someone either.
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@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
No, it only results in a bann if it is holding the game hostage.
OP described that he was camped in basement which implies that he was on the hook. As long as there is a timer running (hook or beartrap e.g.), it is not holding the game hostage
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@KillJiggy said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
Agreed, blocking the stairway and hitting the survivors is intended, not blocking the survivors from unhooking the person, I do believe that is holding the game hostage. (or something like that)
bodyblocking away from unhooking in the basement is indeed an intended feature, the devs have been pretty clear that its not holding hostage, pls get your facts straight.
Clearly there is a timer runing when the survivor is on the hook
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@DeadByFlashlight said:
@KillJiggy said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
Agreed, blocking the stairway and hitting the survivors is intended, not blocking the survivors from unhooking the person, I do believe that is holding the game hostage. (or something like that)
bodyblocking away from unhooking in the basement is indeed an intended feature, the devs have been pretty clear that its not holding hostage, pls get your facts straight.
Clearly there is a timer runing when the survivor is on the hook
Clearly you don't understand the timer is for the survivors to unhook the survivor on the hook, not for the killer to block the stairs.
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You're not entitled to a Scot-free unhook in the basement.KillJiggy said:@DeadByFlashlight said:
@KillJiggy said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
Agreed, blocking the stairway and hitting the survivors is intended, not blocking the survivors from unhooking the person, I do believe that is holding the game hostage. (or something like that)
bodyblocking away from unhooking in the basement is indeed an intended feature, the devs have been pretty clear that its not holding hostage, pls get your facts straight.
Clearly there is a timer runing when the survivor is on the hook
Clearly you don't understand the timer is for the survivors to unhook the survivor on the hook, not for the killer to block the stairs.
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@Peasant said:
KillJiggy said:@DeadByFlashlight said:
@KillJiggy said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.
No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
Agreed, blocking the stairway and hitting the survivors is intended, not blocking the survivors from unhooking the person, I do believe that is holding the game hostage. (or something like that)
bodyblocking away from unhooking in the basement is indeed an intended feature, the devs have been pretty clear that its not holding hostage, pls get your facts straight.
Clearly there is a timer runing when the survivor is on the hook
Clearly you don't understand the timer is for the survivors to unhook the survivor on the hook, not for the killer to block the stairs.
You're not entitled to a Scot-free unhook in the basement.
Did I say scot-free? no but it should be possible.
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This is where I disagree. The basement is meant to have real consequences so I am a-okay with killers locking folks down there as long as a timer (like the hook or bleedout timer) is in effect.KillJiggy said:@Peasant said:
KillJiggy said:@DeadByFlashlight said:
@KillJiggy said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.
No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
Agreed, blocking the stairway and hitting the survivors is intended, not blocking the survivors from unhooking the person, I do believe that is holding the game hostage. (or something like that)
bodyblocking away from unhooking in the basement is indeed an intended feature, the devs have been pretty clear that its not holding hostage, pls get your facts straight.
Clearly there is a timer runing when the survivor is on the hook
Clearly you don't understand the timer is for the survivors to unhook the survivor on the hook, not for the killer to block the stairs.
You're not entitled to a Scot-free unhook in the basement.
Did I say scot-free? no but it should be possible.
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@Peasant said:
KillJiggy said:@Peasant said:
KillJiggy said:
@DeadByFlashlight said: @KillJiggy said: @Tizzle said: @DeadByFlashlight said: Thats an intended feature. No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported. Agreed, blocking the stairway and hitting the survivors is intended, not blocking the survivors from unhooking the person, I do believe that is holding the game hostage. (or something like that)
bodyblocking away from unhooking in the basement is indeed an intended feature, the devs have been pretty clear that its not holding hostage, pls get your facts straight.
Clearly there is a timer runing when the survivor is on the hook Clearly you don't understand the timer is for the survivors to unhook the survivor on the hook, not for the killer to block the stairs.
You're not entitled to a Scot-free unhook in the basement.
Did I say scot-free? no but it should be possible.
This is where I disagree. The basement is meant to have real consequences so I am a-okay with killers locking folks down there as long as a timer (like the hook or bleedout timer) is in effect.
Im okay with insidious basement camping leatherfaces because there is a chance of outplay potential, but blocking the stairs (while someone is hooked), alas, there is not, and i think it is/should be bannable.
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If survivors are allowed to block hooks, effectively preventing killers do part of their job, then killers are allowed to block basement stairs, effectively preventing survivors do part of their job.
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@slingshotsurvivor said:
So many LF and Bing Bongs do this to survivors. Not sure why anyone would want to do this... Apparently some find it amusing.
Some do it to secure kills.
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@Condorloco_26 said:
If survivors are allowed to block hooks, effectively preventing killers do part of their job, then killers are allowed to block basement stairs, effectively preventing survivors do part of their job.I think this is an entirely different scenario, one is making it harder, the other is completely preventing a part of the game, the caveat to a survivor blocking is you damage them, and then there are more injured people, you quite literally can't do anything to a killer blocking the basement.
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Condorloco_26 said:
If survivors are allowed to block hooks, effectively preventing killers do part of their job, then killers are allowed to block basement stairs, effectively preventing survivors do part of their job.I think this is an entirely different scenario, one is making it harder, the other is completely prevent a part of the game, the caveat to a survivor blocking is you damage them, and then there are more injured people, you quite literally can't do anything to a killer blocking the basement.
That is what Im saying thank you
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@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
It's not bannable, the killer isnt holding the game hostage, they are just killing a survivor.
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@SenzuDuck said:
I think this is an entirely different scenario, one is making it harder, the other is completely prevent a part of the game, the caveat to a survivor blocking is you damage them, and then there are more injured people, you quite literally can't do anything to a killer blocking the basement.
Although I agree it's a different scenario, I've faced a couple of 4man SWF teams that take turns being hit, insta-healing each other (or healing normally after their supply ends), effectively preventing hooking any of them. One of those teams even took turns while saboing the hooks. They even know exactly where to crouch behind you so the hook prompt never appears.
As with any of the other annoyances of DBD, I had to suck it up and move on, after just getting a couple of hooks in those games.
Most of the time, I would consider blocking the basement stairs highly inefficient, but I already picture a couple of scenarios where it would completely make sense, as in playing versus a highly altruistic 4man SWF team.
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@Condorloco_26 said:
@SenzuDuck said:
I think this is an entirely different scenario, one is making it harder, the other is completely prevent a part of the game, the caveat to a survivor blocking is you damage them, and then there are more injured people, you quite literally can't do anything to a killer blocking the basement.
Although I agree it's a different scenario, I've faced a couple of 4man SWF teams that take turns being hit, insta-healing each other (or healing normally after their supply ends), effectively preventing hooking any of them. One of those teams even took turns while saboing the hooks. They even know exactly where to crouch behind you so the hook prompt never appears.
As with any of the other annoyances of DBD, I had to suck it up and move on, after just getting a couple of hooks in those games.
Most of the time, I would consider blocking the basement stairs highly inefficient, but I already picture a couple of scenarios where it would completely make sense, as in playing versus a highly altruistic 4man SWF team.
I can understand what you're saying, but this is a thing that is happening in less than 5% of matches, and I think that's an acceptable number to have, personally. Sure it's frustrating as heck, but that's the good thing about this game, you can, if you want too, play like that.
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@mcNuggets said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
It's not bannable, the killer isnt holding the game hostage, they are just killing a survivor.
I believe it is, it is preventing the survivors from doing their job, therefore holding the game hostage.
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@SenzuDuck said:
I can understand what you're saying, but this is a thing that is happening in less than 5% of matches, and I think that's an acceptable number to have, personally. Sure it's frustrating as heck, but that's the good thing about this game, you can, if you want too, play like that.
I completely agree with you. Outside of playing against a highly altruistic 4man SWF team (maybe 5% of the matches as you say), blocking the basement stairs is tremendously inefficient and would result in throwing the game away, since you would give away 3 gens for free. So I still think that it's not a bannable offense, given that the killer is also greatly affected by it and in no way is taking the game hostage.
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@KillJiggy said:
@mcNuggets said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
It's not bannable, the killer isnt holding the game hostage, they are just killing a survivor.
I believe it is, it is preventing the survivors from doing their job, therefore holding the game hostage.
It's for a purpose.
You are killing someone down there in the basement.
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@KillJiggy said:
I believe it is, it is preventing the survivors from doing their job, therefore holding the game hostage.
Survivors can still work on gens while Mr. Staircase Blocker does his thing. To hold a game hostage is, for example, trapping the last survivor in a corner where he can not escape from, without hitting him, trying to force him to leave the game. Another example is survivors going all Ninja when the doors and/or hatch are open, trying to force the killer to DC.
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@mcNuggets said:
@KillJiggy said:
@mcNuggets said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
It's not bannable, the killer isnt holding the game hostage, they are just killing a survivor.
I believe it is, it is preventing the survivors from doing their job, therefore holding the game hostage.
It's for a purpose.
You are killing someone down there in the basement.
It's like extended camping thus not bannable.Except that facecamping was bannable and they changed the game to allow survivors to unhook from all sides. And that isnt camping, its holding the game hostage to me
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@Condorloco_26 said:
@KillJiggy said:
I believe it is, it is preventing the survivors from doing their job, therefore holding the game hostage.
Survivors can still work on gens while Mr. Staircase Blocker does his thing. To hold a game hostage is, for example, trapping the last survivor in a corner where he can not escape from, without hitting him, trying to force him to leave the game. Another example is survivors going all Ninja when the doors and/or hatch are open, trying to force the killer to DC.
Another example is blocking the survivors from having a chance of unhooking someone
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@KillJiggy said:
Except that facecamping was bannable and they changed the game to allow survivors to unhook from all sides. And that isnt camping, its holding the game hostage to me
You may have to readjust your definition of taking the game hostage. You now have more information and opinions.
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@Condorloco_26 said:
@KillJiggy said:
Except that facecamping was bannable and they changed the game to allow survivors to unhook from all sides. And that isnt camping, its holding the game hostage to me
You may have to readjust your definition of taking the game hostage. You now have more information and opinions.
That may not be the correct term, but it should still be bannable
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@KillJiggy said:
Another example is blocking the survivors from having a chance of unhooking someone
It is not, because that won't prevent the match from ending.
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@Condorloco_26 said:
@KillJiggy said:
Another example is blocking the survivors from having a chance of unhooking someone
It is not, because that won't prevent the match from ending.
They removed facecamping for the same concept as this scenario
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@KillJiggy said:
That may not be the correct term, but it should still be bannable
I think we're effectively running loops around the pallet right now. If you refer to my first and second posts in this thread, you'll see that if those issues are not bannable, neither is this. But props to both of us for staying civilized in a killer vs survivor discussion.
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@Condorloco_26 said:
@KillJiggy said:
That may not be the correct term, but it should still be bannable
I think we're effectively running loops around the pallet right now. If you refer to my first and second posts in this thread, you'll see that if those issues are not bannable, neither is this. But props to both of us for staying civilized in a killer vs survivor discussion.
I am very impressed w your composure lol. I am also a killer main btw.
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@KillJiggy said:
They removed facecamping for the same concept as this scenario
I would agree with you if both sides of the equation were addressed. No staircase blocking, if and only if, No hook blocking.
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@KillJiggy said:
I am very impressed w your composure lol. I am also a killer main btw.
killer main btw, or KiLLeR mAiN BtW
??Just kidding man. But hey, I think it's good to watch things from both perspectives.
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@Condorloco_26 said:
@KillJiggy said:
They removed facecamping for the same concept as this scenario
I would agree with you if both sides of the equation were addressed. No staircase blocking, if and only if, No hook blocking.
See. But how often does body blocking actually keep you from hooking someone. I am fine with someone camping in the basement, but the survivors should have a chance to save someone.
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@KillJiggy said:
@mcNuggets said:
@KillJiggy said:
@mcNuggets said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
It's not bannable, the killer isnt holding the game hostage, they are just killing a survivor.
I believe it is, it is preventing the survivors from doing their job, therefore holding the game hostage.
It's for a purpose.
You are killing someone down there in the basement.
It's like extended camping thus not bannable.Except that facecamping was bannable and they changed the game to allow survivors to unhook from all sides. And that isnt camping, its holding the game hostage to me
Facecamping wasn't bannable lol.
Look at all the developer streams the developer stating it is not.It's a strategy, get over it.
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@mcNuggets said:
@KillJiggy said:
@mcNuggets said:
@KillJiggy said:
@mcNuggets said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
It's not bannable, the killer isnt holding the game hostage, they are just killing a survivor.
I believe it is, it is preventing the survivors from doing their job, therefore holding the game hostage.
It's for a purpose.
You are killing someone down there in the basement.
It's like extended camping thus not bannable.Except that facecamping was bannable and they changed the game to allow survivors to unhook from all sides. And that isnt camping, its holding the game hostage to me
Facecamping wasn't bannable lol.
Look at all the developer streams the developer stating it is not.It's a strategy, get over it.
Im pretty sure ive seen a stream where a dev said a killer who repeatedly facecamps (pre unhook change) could be banned.
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@mcNuggets said:
@KillJiggy said:
@mcNuggets said:
@KillJiggy said:
@mcNuggets said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
It's not bannable, the killer isnt holding the game hostage, they are just killing a survivor.
I believe it is, it is preventing the survivors from doing their job, therefore holding the game hostage.
It's for a purpose.
You are killing someone down there in the basement.
It's like extended camping thus not bannable.Except that facecamping was bannable and they changed the game to allow survivors to unhook from all sides. And that isnt camping, its holding the game hostage to me
Facecamping wasn't bannable lol.
Look at all the developer streams the developer stating it is not.It's a strategy, get over it.
"its strategy" wow how much iq did you need to come up with that "strategy" lmao
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@KillJiggy said:
@mcNuggets said:
@KillJiggy said:
@mcNuggets said:
@KillJiggy said:
@mcNuggets said:
@Tizzle said:
@DeadByFlashlight said:
Thats an intended feature.No, this is the type of body blocking that will result in a ban if reported.
It's not bannable, the killer isnt holding the game hostage, they are just killing a survivor.
I believe it is, it is preventing the survivors from doing their job, therefore holding the game hostage.
It's for a purpose.
You are killing someone down there in the basement.
It's like extended camping thus not bannable.Except that facecamping was bannable and they changed the game to allow survivors to unhook from all sides. And that isnt camping, its holding the game hostage to me
Facecamping wasn't bannable lol.
Look at all the developer streams the developer stating it is not.It's a strategy, get over it.
"its strategy" wow how much iq did you need to come up with that "strategy" lmao
How much IQ do you need to pallet loop, to use decisive strike or adrenaline?
Like how much IQ do you need for bodyblocking?That's not a good argument, you are just entitled to winning.
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