The Rift is Killing My Enthusiasm for DBD

I'm mostly okay with the rift. I went into it with a realistic idea of how a battlepass is used to make money, and I made a rule that I'd wait and see how far I got before I committed to buying anything, to see if I thought it was worth $10.

The one thing I wish is that the back catalogue of rift cosmetics would show up in the store -- especially the community skins from last year, which it seems kind of sad to hold back. I'm hoping that, now that it's been about a year since the first rift, we'll start to see stuff pop up.

You know what, I feel the same. Ive been burning out alot faster during the rifts cause I feel like I cant take the breaks I need to continue to enjoy the game. I know my fault but it sucks for me anyways.

Of course its why we are all here to discuss and talk about matters and share our opinions on them and debate them 😀.

Gl in the fog and I hope you have many many more hours of fun within it.

That's not what I said, at all. Being an adult means being able to deal with your emotions, not to suppress them. Being taught to repress emotions instead of learning to deal with them is why men have such a high suicide rate.

You're right. I was dismissive and I apologize.

My point, which was later properly worded by @Todgeweiht, is that if the rifts are making some people miserable, then they need to stop doing them, because it's clearly negatively affecting their mental health. At the same time, they need to push for changes to the rifts that can make them better for everyone, but first and foremost they need to take care of themselves.

Games are supposed to be fun. If you're not having fun, it's important that you stop and find something else to play, or it could very easily grow into an addiction.

I also didn't say that, I just said people didn't have to do them.

Since you claim not to care about feelings, here's a fact: not caring about feelings is bad for you, both physically and psychologically, as well as in your daily life.

It's not advice, just an objective fact that I felt was relevant since you brought up the subject. There's no need to get upset.

Regardless of people's feelings on the matter, the one thing that is objectively not cool is BHVR sneakily making the rift grindier again by reducing the amount of challenges. This rift is almost as grindy as the 1st one was, which took around 200 hours to complete (I remember Paulie did a video on that), it seems that after the 2nd and 3rd turned out to be fair, they went back on their decision, afterall, you're supposed to buy the last few tiers.

Lol, what kind of nonsense is this? Adults still have feelings and the right to express them. Also, I feel like I should be able to vent just a little- I bought the pass at the beginning. Then my kiddos daycare shut down this week due to a confirmed case of covid.

So atm I parent during the day, and because I want to keep my job, work from home at night. I mean I feel like I'm doing a great job adulting, but when am I supposed to grind out those last tiers? 🤷‍♀️

Didn't read the first post club.

I understand the feeling of wanting to finish the rifts, but it not being fun. I have finished all of them so far, but I end up forcing myself to play more than I would if the rift wasn't so grindy. This last one was especially bad, with less challenges and less rewards to help get to higher tiers. I know I don't have to do the rift, I could just play the game normally and only get to tier 30 or something, but at the same time, for all the time I have spent in the game, I want to get every reward I can. Still, I think the rift should be reworked. Either lower the tier to only 50, give more shards or make leveling faster. We need something to make the rift not take as long, because when you finish it, you are dead tired of the game.

I have noticed the same thing and honestly thought it was just me. My gameplay was the same and the last rift I completed with like a few weeks before it closed. Now it's like 5 days and I probably still have like 9 to go. Plus I feel there should be better rewards that the constant trinkets which do absolutely nothing for the player. Especially since I unlock the pass

I don't want to be this guy but if the Rift is causing you so much burnout why don't you just skip a couple of rifts and only play for fun during them.

Personally as somebody who loves grinding games the Rift never usually was a problem for me normally I would be done before the third level comes out or if I'm slacking a couple days after the third level is hits

Honestly I found grinding on things like dark souls or Warframe to be a lot more tedious

Since the introduction of the rift, survivors plays much often "for quest" instead of what they should do - objective. I can't count examples where 1-2 guys were camping me while i was about to pick one of them JUST to get that 1 flashlight save for archive. It is hard to confess that, but rift altogether made game a worse experience. I mean tome challenges. There is nothing wrong with Rift, but it could be achievable faster for all people who just CAN'T grind 70 levels in 3 months. And quests there should be straightforward - do genes, heal other survivors, destroy hex totem. Things like "escape using all Ace perks" or "escape after stunning killer 3 times with Jane" are just unfun. As someone who was a survivor main for more than 600 hours, i had 0 cases where i bring flashlight to the match, yet now i have to use it, and use it good - because tome challenges.

I totally agree with you OP - archives are making me sick of this game as well. BHVR made DbD your second job, if you want to get all 70 levels. I think i'll play something more fun for now...

After every match and every time you enter the lobby you see the stupid pop-up window on the right, begging you to do challenges and see what new items you got, and it's worse than most other games because it actively blocks the chat while it's up, and also makes the game hang when it enters and leaves your view. Awesome. And it'll tell you everywhere how many days are left, and it's this whole "You better complete the rift or you're going to miss out on everything and you don't wanna get left out do you? But you better complete the entire thing in a time limit to get your money back so you can continue to be a part of this endless loop of grinding so you don't feel like you wasted your money!"

You have shown them that lowering the progress results in more profit. If anything it's going to become even worse.

The entire system is built in such a way to explicitly discourage skipping them.

• you get spammed with messages saying you unlocked something, even if you don't buy it
• you have to look at the stuff you COULD have if only you spent money
• in-game news reminding you that you are missing out

And if you skip one there is a high chance you will never have the chance to get certain cosmetics. Legacy is essentially just a recolor. People still regularly ask for legacy to come back, not because it looks good, but because they can't have it. The same thing will happen with the battlepass cosmetics, except it will be even worse. Not all of the cosmetics are recolors, such as the Wraith outfit from the latest iteration. Again: There is a high chance players in the future will never be able to get these. This includes players joining the game on the new consoles.

There were suggestions how to prevent the issues, such as letting players switch between battlepasses once bought, so they can complete them in their own time. Psychological issues, fear of missing out, were pointed out well before the first battlepass release. There are two options:

• the feedback that a battlepass system will have a negative effect on some players was not read
• the feedback that a battlepass system will have a negative effect on some players was ignored

Those are the only two options. Both of them are #########.

I am a DBD vet (played when there were still infinites) and this battle pass has been tedious to the point where I stopped buying it. I play CoD and other games with battle passes and you basically level up the pass in that game and many others just by you know... playing... that is what has prevented me from buying their battle pass because you need to always worry about doing challenges in order to progress through this BP, and on top of that it gives you laughable blood points for the effort you need to go through (and the matches you essentially need to throw sometimes as a result of doing these challenges).

I think they can stick to keeping tome challenges around for those that like it for the extra BP and hook decorations, but for everyone else... if anyone is reading about BP feedback from the developers side... hear me out, the way it is done now has stopped me from giving them any money because of the way it has been done (it is difficult to progress through the BP... it is not consumer-friendly as it is now, and I am not giving a cent until they fix the way you can progress through the battle pass without having to grind 3-4 hours per day). It isn't fun to do challenges in order to progress through the battle pass. Let people play normally and nerf the duration it takes to go through the battle pass, it is ridiculous as is.

So...I feel ya, OP. I had gone from a person that played quite a few hours per day into a person that plays just to get the daily challenges done (and from there it has turned into me coming on every couple of days to do all 3 dailies and then playing something else). I miss the old days... (bit of nostalgia from how janky this game was), now it feels like they want you to do this as a part-time job. I can spare an hour or two per day, but 3-4 hours is a job. Look at how other companies are doing their battle pass and learn from them. This monetization system is pretty terrible for value compared to the other battle passes.

I got to tier 35 then I bought the rest :/ the mission suck now

The Rift is optional and just for cosmetics