BHVR has a monopoly on assymetrical horror multiplayer

When you're playing against a team of survivors and you're the one in control of the zombies, yes it is.

But those games failing have nothing to do with DBD/BHVR. The devs of DBD did not make those games fail. They are not forcing us, the playerbase, to play DBD.

There are other options out there. DBD has thrived while others have failed largely due in part to a GROWING COMMUNITY and fun gameplay. Regardless how you feel and what you fail to understand, DBD has a rabid fanbase that continues to grow and thrive with the game.

Again, I don't really think you know what the term monopoly means.

Oh and I forgot RE: Resistance.

@Orion

You keep mixing things...

That i value originality is my taste. Subjective.

That you can determine if a game is better at originality, or more original it's objective.

What if it's financial success is due to a better monetization strategy or better overall resources or more questionable goal grinding features but the game is lacking effort in every other department? Have you never experience something like this happening in the industry?

Is the Indie side of the industry worse than their AAA competitors? Do you find your metric coherent in a financial comparison between those?

Search the history for Battleforge or Dawngate.

EDIT: Also, i never implied that player preference is not related to popularity or financial success. What i'm implying is that financial success is not going to determine if a game is better than another due to lacking every other single objective factor that is involved in game design.

As you said if player preferences or tastes are subjective why should we take them into account in an objective comparison?

I never asked for an objective comparison, that was you who pulled "originality" out of thin air when I was asking how we could determine which game most players prefer. And you did imply player preference is unrelated to popularity and financial success, that was literally why you (and others) were mocking my statement to that effect.

There have been quite a few other attempts at this specific style of survival horror games, which have been mentioned within this thread. Even now, "Phasmophobia" is gaining a steady following, with plans on adding the option to be the ghost in future (there's no plan for console scheduled). So it's not accurate to say it has a monopoly as it is not the only seller in this market.

It has a very successful business model, and despite the various complaints it received, it has devised and expanded on an idea - perhaps inspired by Left 4 Dead's showing that asymmetrical horror works - and developed its own place. Even if like-for-like, Identity V proves it's not a monopoly.

There will be more and more challengers in future. But they would need to come up with something original.

@MandyTalk that's a bold statement claiming Friday the 13th died and didn't last as long as you. They just recently had an update to the game. I can log on there any day and guaranteed be in a lobby quicker than dead by daylight. I enjoy both games thoroughly but that's just simply a bold claim on your behalf.

@Orion that's cool but, on xbox yet again I can guaranteed find a lobby quicker than dbd any day of the week, any time of the day. It's not a dead game by any means.

You know, I thoroughly enjoy both games. I started playing DBD and F13 in August of 2017. However, from that August to June of 2018, F13 had most of my attention, while DBD was just a fun game on the side I would play here and there. It wasn't until the lawsuit that I started playing DBD 'full time' and essentially dropped F13.

But as you mentioned, even before the lawsuit, F13 had a significant less amount of players daily, and I never understood that. When soley comparing the Counselors and Survivors (Not Jason vs Killers) I never understood how someone could find Survivor more enjoyable then Counselor. The reason F13 had so much more of my attention was because of how fun the objectives were. Sitting on a static objective for 80 seconds (or 400 for all 5) while occasionally pressing spacebar is not fun, nor is it engaging or challenging. At least with counselor you would have to search for your objective pieces, and install them, all while defending yourself and your teammates from Jason. Not to mention the game had more ways to escape and the counselors were unique. Which offered very varied ways to approach certain objectives. As opposed to the bland Survivors of DBD. Yes perks exist, but F13 had perks on top of Counselors being unique as well. It also made the objectives in F13 pretty challenging if you were using a Counselor with low Repair stats. And as we all know, the main objective of DBD isn't challenging at all, and that makes it no fun in my opinion. Not to mention it was a lot more satisfying watching the gruesome kills in F13 then it is watching the Entity kill a hooked person, or even watching the Mori's, which feature little to no gore at all.

My point being, the objectives in F13 were actually fun, while sitting on a generator in DBD well, isn't. It makes DBD feel more like a mobile game then a full fletched one, simply because it feels so simplistic compared to F13. I have a feeling the bugs and glitches are the main reason people laid off of F13. I can't wrap my head around the fact that people find the gameplay in DBD more engaging then F13. How in the world is sitting on a generator for 80 seconds fun? It isn't. And I hate how the main objective of the game isn't fun.

As another user mentioned, I can still find a full lobby in F13 way faster then I ever could in DBD. And that's taking in the fact that F13 has larger lobbies then DBD does.

I still love both games. I can just never understand how people found DBD more engaging. I will admit though, I haven't played F13 too much ever since the lawsuit hit, simply because the lack of new content pulls me away from it. I will always love DBD and play it almost daily, but a part of me always misses the engaging objectives in F13, and makes me wish DBD would add more intriguing gameplay. Something like having to find the parts to a generator before you can repair it, or adding more ways to escape. But I understand that would be balance hell.

(Again, my example was only comparing Survivor vs Counselor gameplay, not any other aspect of both games).

While the game is not dead as even wirh 300 players it just has a very low player base.

Finding lobbies in the game is obviously quicker than DBD as you don't have a choice of what role you play just a preference.

DBD also splits up the player base with server locations so some find lobbies faster than others while F13th has everyone in one.