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Breakable walls at this point are really bad band-aid fix

MrsPiggyIsSoSneaky
MrsPiggyIsSoSneaky Member Posts: 571
edited October 2020 in Feedback and Suggestions

Like come on, the breakable walls in the new updated map are just there because BHVR doesn't know if what they did to the loop was good or not.

Breakable walls bring back infinites, if they are not broken of course. Yes just "simply break the wall 4head" but more then half of the time, these breakable walls don't benefit the killer or even survivors, which they shouldn't anyways because its the killer having to put time and possibly sacrifice a chase to break a single wall.

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  • TheClownIsKing
    TheClownIsKing Member Posts: 6,278

    personally, I like breakable walls

  • ToxicMyers
    ToxicMyers Member Posts: 1,295
    edited October 2020

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtzQy5UESgc Scott's vid on them

  • MusicNerd_TC
    MusicNerd_TC Member Posts: 3,099
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1662169#Comment_1662169

    Why?

  • GoodLookinCookin
    GoodLookinCookin Member Posts: 341

    I never really find a good use to them besides Midwitch and Deaddog saloon

  • Bard
    Bard Member Posts: 657

    There are a couple good ones.

    The bathroom staircase on Midwich and the School doors are good examples. Keeping them up is strong, but you have a real incentive to destroy them in the right situation.

  • NekoGamerX
    NekoGamerX Member Posts: 5,458

    I don't hate them or like them just odd sometime.

  • Satelit
    Satelit Member Posts: 1,377

    I hate the Badham walls with a passion

  • Zaitsev
    Zaitsev Member Posts: 1,285

    This entire game is built on bandaid fixes.

  • Marc_go_solo
    Marc_go_solo Member Posts: 5,508

    I liked the initial idea, and how they were used on The Deathslinger and The Executioner maps. This issue I have comes with the re-evaluation of older maps.

    The breakable walls seem to have been placed where existing doors once were, whereas I'd rather have breakable walls in areas no door or vault have been previously. I have yet to witness how this has dramatically changed play.

  • ZCerebrate
    ZCerebrate Member Posts: 641
    https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/comment/1662216#Comment_1662216

    That's the case - walls should be used in this manner to be strong for the killer and not the survivor with the option to break them as the match progresses to increase your own map mobility in exchange for unlocking a stronger loop for the survivors. Unfortunately most breakable walls being designed right now are "If you don't break this" then the survivor has an infinite or near-infinite on tiles like some house of pain or garage setups on New preschool. Macmillan is using the same design on a lot of places like Ironworks and Mother's Dwellings as "answers" to the main building loops (Especially the new Ironworks upstairs that is just a window with the new blocked doorway).

    Killers are either

    1) Forced to go out of their way to break these when there is "some" pressure in the game and they go that way or during a chase that a survivor uses one to get a ton of distance or outright escape.

    2) The GOD AWFUL method of trying to break all the really strong ones as soon as the match starts while 4 survivors are unpressured - popping the first two gens. Maybe Behavior seems to think killers need a weaker early game because they "snowball" the last few gens by the "statistics" they're seeing... only not starting that snowball adequately while the first 2~3 gens go for free (naturally due to map size and split pressure) is the main reasons killers feel powerless against organized survivor teams.

  • Mandy
    Mandy Administrator, Dev, Community Manager Posts: 24,677

    What I want to see is breakable walls that you feel that you have a choice to break or not - I guess pros & cons to breaking them. Not "I have to break this wall to deal with that window" or "well breaking this wall doesn't help me but hinders the survivors so I'll never break it".

    I do love the idea of breakable walls in the game, but definitely think there should be pros & cons to each breakable wall and for it to be a more strategic decision.

  • C3Tooth
    C3Tooth Member Posts: 8,266

    Increase the time to break walls, but make walls much more strategic decision. Here is some ideas from me.

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