Would unlimited Distortion be Overpowered?
If Distortion simply prevented all Killer Aura reading on the Survivor using it, would that even be overpowered?
Honestly, I feel like it'd still be pretty niche. The most commonly run Aura perk is BBQ and having your Aura hidden every time it activates doesn't seem to me like it would compete with most of the meta perks for a slot.
Some crazy stealth Blendette might get tons of value from this buffed version of Distortion. But most of the Iron Will, Dead Hard, Decisive Strike and Unbreakable tryhards probably wouldn't even consider using it for a second.
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OOO
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Yes?
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I'd say yes it would be OP. If it were to get a buff, maybe add a token or possibly a mechanic to replenish them. It does help with Undying these days and might see a little more use, but I think it is in a good spot right now.
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*Distortion only activates from the Killer's Aura revealing Perks and Add-Ons.
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I wish they changed it a little bit, make it like Diversion and Stakeout (Basically getting more tokens when in the terror radius). People would propably use it for once, at least i would use it.
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I would be fine if they gave you ways to get tokens but definitely not if they made it unlimited.
Keep in mind this also would screw over.
Retribution
Undying
Nurses calling
Scratched mirror Myers
Amanda's letter piggy
All-seeing Wraith
Barbecue
There are some other aura Reading killer add-ons that I can't remember off the top of my head.
Bitter murmur
I'm all ears
It really isn't a good idea to have one perk can cancel out all of these whether they are common or not.
Increasing the amount of tokens or at least giving specific ways to gain limited tokens is fine.
But definitely not unlimited
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Yes, but it is my personal opinion that the current time periods are too short. It should be 15 seconds at Tier-1, 30 seconds at Tier-2, and one minute at Tier-3. So potentially it could be 3 minutes of black out during the match.
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lockers aren’t OP
...or are they🤔
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Yeah. It's super strange to me that Off The Record gives more Aura blocking time than Distortion.
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Yes, that would make a really nice change. Maybe also increasing the tokens to 4, similar to Stakeout. I would probably also buff Stakeout so you start the game with 4 tokens instead of having to "farm" them first. That would make both Distortion and Stakeout very much alike.
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*Or if my suggestions of 15/30/1 Minutes are considered too generous. Make each token 30 seconds each, but DO NOT TRIGGER THEM AUTOMATICALLY. Let the Survivor Trigger them and use the token only when they feel it is appropriate and/or have an automatic option they can turn on if they want.
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Yeah that would be useful, fun to use, and not broken. A nice little change that would make Distortion worth taking since you could get use of it more than 3 times a game.
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Unlimited Distortion would counter multiple killer perks (some of which are even HEX perks) and addons such as BBQ, Nurse's Calling, Hex: Retribution, Hex: Undying etc.
Therefore it would be op as you're 1 out of 4 survivors.
1 survivor perk shouldn't beat multiple killer perks/addons.
EDIT: Also Object of Obsession is a thing soooo... Yeah.
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Yes. A better rework is to gain/regain tokens through being in the killer's terror radius, similar to pebble. They can also increase the number of tokens to 5.
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Give Pebble's conditional thing to Distortion and give Pebble just a straight cool-down.
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I think that Distortion would be better suited as a cooldown perk instead of a token perk. Allowing Distortion to activate once every 45 or 60 seconds would make it a very useful and consistent perk.
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I kind of like this one even better than my own (or the others) but I would think the "cool down" should be 60 seconds at Tier-1, 45 seconds at Tier-2, and 30 seconds at Tier-3. *But with a Cool down I think it should last a flat 10 seconds.
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How it's coded currently is if the killer can see a survivor's aura, Distortion activates (Babysitter, OoO, BBQ, etc). The dev's aren't going to go through and add each applicable perk to a specific Distortion list and also give Distortion all the information about activation requirements and such. Look at how they did away with that for Tinkerer.
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I'd agree with you if it didn't also get rid of scratch marks for 10 seconds. I think that effect would need to be nerfed if it could proc every 30 seconds.
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Agreed. The scratch marks always felt like an add-on because the Perk was so weak. If the Aura part was done properly, that extra would not be necessary.
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*Although, since this Perk comes with the Survivor coming with Legion, I kind of think that Distortion should also hide his heartbeat from a triggered Feral Frenzy when the Perk is active. But that is just me.
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As others have stated, I think the only thing Distortion needs is a way to replenish tokens. I think making it so that if you cleanse a totem it replenishes a token (up to a max of 3 tokens so it can’t go further) would be a good buff towards it. It makes survivors cleanse totems more and it’s in limited supply (up to 5 replenishes but you also have to keep in mind other people may need totems for Inner Strength or their own Distortion).
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Nah man it would be totally balanced, no overpowered cancer perk you could use with it that gives unlimited information on the killer with already little to no down side, no sir ree.
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Distortion works for OoO or it used to work not sure if still works but that was a thing.
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Yes, that would absolutely destroy some killers.
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It needs a buff, desparately, especially in the current meta where if you run it, it's going to be gone after the killer has gotten one hook, but in doing so it needs to be made that it can't be comboed with OoO.
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No, Distortion just activates when your Aura would be shown to the killer. Object definitely affects Distortion.
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It becomes a perk that has a strong effect with no downside to balance it out.
So yes it would be pretty overpowered considering all 4 Survivors could simply equip a perk and no longer have to worry about any and all aura reading ever from the start of a match. (Also Scratch Marks occasionally)
Also it becomes a extremely better Sole Survivor even though Sole Survivor is terrible and could use an update.
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I think distortion's effect is fine as-is.
Way I see it, it serves 2 strong purposes right now.
- It lets you figure out what perks the killer has. If you vault a window against pyramid head and lose a totem, then you can know that he has I'm All Ears which is useful to know. You can also stop guessing against BBQ and chilli, etc..
- With how strong undying is it's good to have a perk that lets you perform a cleanse without having your aura presented in the early game.
Maybe you could buff it's duration a little bit to 15 seconds to add some leeway for the second purpose but otherwise it does its job well, its downfall is a lack of communication in non-SWF. A lot of perks suffer from this unfortunately. You'd need to add some sort of indication that teammates can see when a token is used to fix that.
Making its duration permanent would make it kind of a selfish perk and actually be a nerf to skillful use. I'd rather an off the record buff for long-term aura reading prevention in that case, but even that perk is alright rn imo.
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It would help you to win every chase, so you become a god. Totally op. :^)
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It definitely needs to be buffed to unlimited. Hiding your aura all the time should definitely be a perk.
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I like your ideas, but what about Off the Record then?
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Lockers pretty much counter only BBQ. You can't hide in a locker while healing unless you use Inner Strength. You can't really hide in Lockers when Retribution, Undying or Bitter Murmur reveals you. I am all Ears will still reveal you. If they changed Distortion to what op thinks is a good idea, the Perk would be overpowered.
Imagine having Nurses and it worked map wide, that'd be the same Level of overpowerness.
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Personally I think unlimited Distortion would be overpowered. (Unlimited aura immunity.)
However, I do think Distortion needs more tokens or ways to get more tokens in the middle of the match by doing certain actions. (I'm just spitballing here, but stuff like stunning the killer, unhooking someone, completing a generator, MAYBE being hooked? Not all of these actions, but pick 1 or 2. Maybe being hooked would reset you back to max tokens, but stuns, etc. could simply award one token each)
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In the Creations forum, I suggested the possibility of creating a perk that allowed you to use Aura reading as a "Diversion" of sorts using crows.
Like I put it this way...
If you approach an non-startled crow, you press the Active Ability to form a bond with it. Whenever your Aura would be shown to the Killer, it reveals the crow's aura to the killer instead of yours. The crow is startled after its Aura is read. You can only form a bond with a crow at a time. With a cooldown of 120/90/60 seconds each time you use it. The bond is broken if the crow is startled.
I think other perks that combat aura reading with different applications could be useful. Of course, you couldn't run Distortion with this at the same time much like you can't run Unbreakable with Soul Guard.
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Sole Survivor is supposed to already do that after you fuel it with the corpses of your teammates.
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OOO
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Off The record gives you constant aura-blocking for 80 seconds, so I don't think it would need any changes if Distortion got a buff.
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Aura reading shouldn't eat through tokens if you're in a chase. OoO plus diversion is good to hide that you have OoO so killer won't immediately DC.
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Distortion is fine as it is. You’re meant to learn and adapt. If you lose a token while self-caring then you know the killer has nurses calling and not to heal in their terror radius. If you lose a token after a hook you know they have BBQ and that you’re going to need to use lockers. You can play around auras anyway but Distortion lets you know for sure what they have. This is very powerful in SWF.
It’s not meta because 1) As above you can usually tell if the killer has any aura reading perks once you have experience with the game and 2) Aura reading isnt the be all and end all of the game. It a Pig comes at you with BBQ it’s easy to stealth by the time she gets there kr just loop her for the next 10 minutes.
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It would be in my opinion, but on the other side of this, I do think the perk should allow a survivor to gain some tokens back.
Perhaps a token for every save on a teammate or successful pallet stun? Idk
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Yes. It’s not just about blocking auras (which is more powerful than is given credit). It’s the wealth of information it gives the killer. Plus on a healthy survivor, a killer dealing with 10 seconds of no scratch marks more than 3 times would be a nightmare.
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“Maybe you could buff it's duration a little bit to 15 seconds to add some leeway for the second purpose but otherwise it does its job well, its downfall is a lack of communication in non-SWF. A lot of perks suffer from this unfortunately. You'd need to add some sort of indication that teammates can see when a token is used to fix that.”
This would be a very bad idea. As it stands, in SWF Distortion can already neuter a killer that may have a significant portion of their build around aura reading, which is already I highly conditional ability anyway.
“Let me finish gens because the killer is running Bitter Murmur”
”Stop healing when you hear the TR. Killer has Nurses”
”Plague has Black Incense. Bolt the moment you hear her TR”
”Killer has Undying. Let me cleanse totems”
”Killer has Lightborn. Don’t bother using Fkashlights”
Can you see how devastating Distortion can potentially be? On top of an already overwhelming amount of info shared between SWF, Distortion can reveal perks and add ons. Extending that so that info can somehow be shared amongst solo players that already choose not to equip Distortion would be awful to killers.
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I would say survivors would pair it well with Object of Obsession. I feel like distortion is in a good place yeah it may not be used much but it's good where it's at
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It would be way too OP. Honestly they should just add a few more tokens and that would be fine.
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If that was how distortion worked I would absolutely run it almost all the time. Paired with small game or detective's hunch it would be the biggest "######### you" to ruin+undying.
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That change would create more facecamping as an alternative to heading to unhooked survivors.
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IMO Distortion should regain a token every time you're hooked. So a max of 5 tokens per match. I think that'd be fair.
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Off the record exists
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It could it countered w iron maiden. But distortion has no counter.
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