Am I toxic for slugging survivors and never hooking?

I do not think you're responsible for anyone elses fun.

That being said, I do think it should be (but not is, if people here are right) a reportable offense. It's bad sportsmanship, especially if you're leaving them on the ground to bleed out.

But because it's allowed currently by the devs, I don't see a problem with it.

Also, I don't see an issue if you knock them all down and then hook them - my stance is strictly on slugging and letting bleed out.

I personally don't see it as a problem but a lot of people do. That said don't stop slugging alltogether as it is the most powerfull pressure tool.

What you generally want to do is when you start slugging is to hook a survivor while another is on the floor. That way you'll have the effeciency of slugging and the bloodpoints and emblems to boot.

In short. You found the winning strategy you just need to keep the emblems in mind too if you want a ton of bp and rank

I think it depends on how it goes. I've had some matches against low mobility killers who wanted to slug, and it went the way you're describing. We just kept picking up the slugs, and it was kind of tedious, especially if the killer had Knockout, but the game was basically normal outside of that.

But I also had a game against a Hillbilly on an open map, and he just zipped around and downed three people in the first 30 seconds. After that, it was a stupid, boring, protracted sequence where the fourth person would try to pick someone up, and then the chainsaw would come back and one of them would go down. Then the person who was still up would hide for a long time, then try to pick someone up, and the chainsaw would come back and one of them would go down. Just, over and over, until he had all four.

So, most of the game was not getting to do anything and just waiting to bleed out while somebody else played hide and seek, and it really wasn't fun.

I disagree. I think that, when five people agree to play a friendly game together -- meaning, a game that's not a professional sport or an organized competition -- the most important thing is that they all have a good time. So, if you play in a way that makes it miserable for everyone else because you're more concerned with winning than with the social interaction you're having with the other players, I think you've missed the point.

That is not hostage holding. Hostage holding has a specific definition that requires it so a player is stuck in the game indefinitely. An example would be a Killer bodyblocking the last Survivor in a corner while the EGC hasn't started. Slugging is not hostage holding because the slugged Survivor will die and leave the game after four minutes.

I disagree (to a point). If a player finds it most fun when they are trying their best/hardest to win, then I don't see that as a reason to accuse them of "missing the point." Obviously, a line needs to be drawn at some point where it crosses over into "being a jerk" territory, but I wouldn't call simply "being more concerned with winning" that line.

If you're eventually going to hook them just slugging them down is a bit annoying but not really toxic, but just letting them bleed out you're just being a jerk not toxic but jerk move.

Well it's obviously toxic. This behavior damages the playerbase over time which is as solid evidence for toxicity as you're going to get.

Just because the game lets you do it doesn't mean it's not toxic. For example when a survivor sits and teabags at the exit or spams noise notifications for as long as possible. This stuff is allowed but still harmful to the experience, especially if done repeatedly.

If this was almost any normal game I would say alittle mean to make someone sit there but to be honest dbd has one of the most toxic if not the most toxic community I've ever seen so as I tell most people that pick this game up play how you want how you like cause you think the next survivor wil not teabag or hit you with a gg ez or some other bs I'd like to have faith in this community but I've been attacked so much for playing a game it's easy how entitled dbd players are so do you G don't care about how other people feel toward fun in the game cause not to be mean 99.9% of the time they won't care for yours ( to be clear this is just my experiences)

It would be called toxic because it harms the playerbase. See my earlier comment for examples.

Okay but maybe adress my point. This behavior will lead to players quitting and is therefore toxic by definition. I didn't say anything about how you're a bad person for spamming noise or letting everyone sit on the ground, I'm just letting you all know the definition and that your little head canon can't change it.

Truth is there are builds people use that that mainly focus on trying to slug everyone and win the match as fast as possible. Your perfectly fine don’t listen to the hater survivors most of them are 10x more toxic than this. you should be running better perks for what your trying to do. The plague perk that makes people scream nearby when you knock someone and the that makes survivors not able to see each other when they are down are very necessary. Trust me most survivors are salty no matter what you do as a killer if they die. I’d even recommend noed If your not running a one shot killer. I play more survivor than killer but don’t have a preference and it’s not something you can be banned for at all. Your not holding the game hostage your trying to knock them all and then sacrifice. Also rank is basically 100 percent meaningless in this game.

Slugging is a strong tool in your box, but you shouldn't rely on it solely. You are missing out on a large part of your own goals, keep in mind that the more you hook the more blood points you earn in the sacrifice category and emblems attached to it. I am also pretty new to the game, but not all these perks are horrible to deal with. Try to go for hook swaps over tunneling the same guy down will avoid many of the issues with the perks, if you down someone that just came off a hook you can still slug them for a minute if you want to avoid DS (also a single time use). Don't get me wrong, if people hand you 4 downs in a row next to each other, I wouldn't say no... look at the overall situation and figure out what is better for you to do in regards to gen pressure and all that.

Winning and losing are general terms really, consider what you want to get out of it. A 2k and a 4k can award you nearly the same, based on how you went on about it and what you managed to achieve. 4 slug into 1 hooks most likely won't earn you as much or rank you up consistently. Also, be willing to take a 1k or 0k at times... it is a game, sometimes people crush you.

Don't worry to much about the survivors that go like, but our fun... because as some already pointed out, we will just wait for a SWF to teach you a lesson... regardless of your playstyle; they don't care about your fun and their enjoyment isn't much of your concern either. Yet if you want to be good as a killer I do think you need to be able to adjust to the situation and learn to make the correct judgement calls. If you look at the veterans online, they use the whole array of tools and know when to use them.

It sounds like you primarily don't like slugging because it makes it more punishing to ragequit. Not sure that's the most persuasive argument you could make, but appreciate the lesson.

How is toxicity a matter of opinion? Doesn't that make it a moot point and distort its definition into "something I personally dislike"?

Devs have said slugging is a valid tactic you're good. Doesn't stop it from being kinda scummy though

It's not bannable no matter what people are saying. It's not that toxic if everybody is using perks that punishes the killer for actually trying to hook people.