What is with the anti camp protesting?

Little effort is the key. Everyone else EARNS their escape/kills.

It's also be the guy in hook punished because THE KILLER couldn't be bothered to put in the effort. If everyone else rushes generator, the one camped still loses out entirely.

There you have it.

I don't play Dead by Daylight for the scenery and stress relief.

A large portion of this community play to have fun, camping is (for the majority) not fun.

1) It's not fun when your teammate is being camped and you can't do anything about it (and even worse if you're playing solo q because you might just get a team of lemmings who decide that they don't want to do gens, so better hope you can live long enough to get hatch, that is if you're not the next one getting camped)

2) if you're the one being camped it's very very unfun (yes you can try to make it better possibly by trying to ensure you team escapes, that is if they aren't the aformentioned lemmings, but even then you get to get chased, get hooked, press spacebar/key of choice for struggle, then die, probably netting you very little points unless you're a god looper and managed to max out Boldness before they caught up to you)

3) being the one DOING is camping is very unfun. Generally you're either doing it because the game is already going poorly for you and you're trying to secure at least ONE kill, you came into this game upset from another game and are trying to take out your frustration on the first available target (so you're already not having fun and have dragged 1-4 other people into it), or you came in with the intention to camp and make the game as unfun as possible for 1-4 other people.

4) And then there's also the off cases where a killer camps until NOED kicks in and then goes on a fiesta, or a killer beings in an ebony and hooks, possibly camps, tunnels and moris them out of the game one by one, so again, very unfun, especially with queue times being as unreliable as they are

So yes, SOMETIMES you can genrush and 2-3 people will escape (that is if the killer doesn't have NOED, and it'll probably activate because who wants to take time to cleanse totems against a camping killer and increase the chances of him getting someone else?), but good luck on finding a team who'll do that in Solo q.

Camping can be a tactic a killer can use yes, as can slugging, but people have abused it to the point where it's become as hated as it has.

It is possible. Or what happens is what happened with me.

I was literally camped out of the game for literally my first match. Bastard literally stared me in the eye as I hung on the hook until I died. My first thought was "Well, great. So this is the game?" and I almost quit there and then.

I now go out of my way to avoid playing in a manner at all toxic. Zero camping, zero tunnelling. The only time I have done so was recently after an extensive match on Mother's Dwelling, to which I apologised for afterwards. It was the final two, and that survivor ran at me. I'd had enough and needed to end it.

Those discussions have always been here, just like discussions about DS, Noed, etc.

Camping is in the game because it's the reasonable thing to do in some situations and there's not been a proposed fix so far that wouldn't be unfair in some aspects.

However, your solution to camping (just do objectives) only works for coordinated depip squads and they have to play perfectly as well. I reiterate, not simple SWFs, but genuine genrush seal teams. SoloQs have to waste at least a little bit of time to ascertain the killer is camping and assume they're going to camp all the way, then go back on the gens that they have to find and travel to as well and rush the objectives. When you factor that in, the killer has essentially a mathematically guaranteed 2k unless they make a massive mistake and the survivors waste literally, not figuratively, no time at all. Everything past that is a bonus kill. And in every situation where you can get a guaranteed tie by simply avoiding a major mistake while the opposing side can't afford even small ones, then there's a flaw in design.

If you add to the mix the unholy trinity of corrupt intervention, bitter murmur and noed, plus (but not necessarily) an undetectable and/or insta down ability, you can 4k consistently by simply having a staring contest with your first down.

The reason you don't see that every game is that it's boring as heck for the killer as well. But it works and it's been proven, simply because it's game design.

What you see instead, and that's how you play killer in the red ranks, is that you hook someone, then you pressure someone else getting ready to leave them to cut off whoever goes for the unhook, who you're going to slug if possible. Then you snowball from there, generally with one person on hook and another one slugged.

Just make Entity relocate a hooked survivor to a farthest hook if Killer spends 30 seconds within 32 meters. Reset and pause the timer each time Killer gets in to a chase. Problem solved.

I disagree. Running around in circles in loops until you hit that pallett is also unfun, yet a lot of this community does it.

Unlike camping, its just something that favors survivors, and thats why they like it, and dislike camping. Its not about fun, its about advantage.

Camping is only a successful strategy if survivor let it be.

You want to reduce the number of campers punish them for it with one kill games, yes it sucks for that one person but they just need to tough it out you aren't guaranteed a victory in any game.