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What are killers meta perks?

I have seen some talk about survivor meta perks like, DS, DH. Unbreakable, bt, adrenaline, iron will (even though I don't understand why you would consider it a meta perk but whatever) ect

But what are some killer meta perks?

Also what actually is the definition of a meta perk? Is is something we can all agree on or is it subjective?

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  • Mooks
    Mooks Member Posts: 15,132

    BBQ, especially on high mobility killers.

    Then you definitely have killer-specific Meta-perks. For example Monitor and abuse for Deathslinger or I guess the BBQ+Pop combo for Freddy.

  • xCarrie
    xCarrie Member Posts: 982

    Overall meta? Ruin+Surveillance, Ruin+Undying, PGTW, BBQ, Nurses Calling, Sloppy.

    Then there’s killer specific meta which is too much to get into.


    Buuut to answer your other question yes but no? Usually we can all agree DS+Unbreakable is meta but the people who love using it might say “no it’s just good.” Same could go for Demogorgon with STBFL. The definition of meta though is something (a perk) that’s used by almost everyone because it’s strong. That’s why some people say Iron will is “meta” because it’s good and it’s used a lot.

  • xXCAM3R0NXx
    xXCAM3R0NXx Member Posts: 387

    I've never understood why STBFL is apparently so good on demo

  • xCarrie
    xCarrie Member Posts: 982

    Mostly because no matter what you will almost never lose stacks. Demos shred isn’t a basic attack so when you hit the obsession with shred you won’t lose stacks. If you’re at 8 and down the obsession then you stay at 8.

    Its pretty good if you can land your shred...I can’t so I don’t use it lol

  • xXCAM3R0NXx
    xXCAM3R0NXx Member Posts: 387

    But shred isn't a basic attack? So it wouldn't be affected by the STBFL?

  • AhoyWolf
    AhoyWolf Member Posts: 4,645

    I would say that most perks that slow down the game are meta, for example PGTW and Ruin.

    BBQ, for bloodpoints and the aura reading, but mostly for bloodpoints.

    And then perks that make chases easier, for example Enduring, Spirit Fury and STBFL.

  • xCarrie
    xCarrie Member Posts: 982

    You only use shred when you’re chasing the obsession so you don’t lose stacks, everyone else you just use a basic attack

  • Warcrafter4
    Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 2,917

    Your missing the point:

    Its good because it DOESN'T COUNT AGAINST YOUR STACKS!

    This means demo can attack the obsession with impunity to losing STBFL rendering the main downside of STBFL moot while being able to reliably kill of the obsession while keeping all 8 stacks.

  • NursesBootie
    NursesBootie Member Posts: 2,159

    BBQ, Thrilling Tremors, Whispers, Discordance, Nurse's Calling, Enduring, Spirit Fury, Save the Best for Last, Monitor&Abuse, Hex: Ruin, Pop goes the Weasel...

    The list goes on for a bit. There are way more killer perks considered "meta" than survivor perks.

  • Deadeye
    Deadeye Member Posts: 3,627
    edited October 2020

    Yes, you get no benefit against the obsession, but against the other 3 survivors (anyway you can also chose to eat the 2 stacks loss if you think it is worth it). Also, it is not rare that you can combine a STBFL hit with a Shred, when the survivor circles you to bamboozle or simply just gets stuck somewhere. The shred then can guarantee that the survivor will not reach the next window for example. I had several scenes already when the down happened within 3 seconds of the first hit, thanks to shred.

    To the topic: I would also count Corrupt Intervention as meta, you see this pretty often. Maybe more often on Trapper and Hag than on others, but I would guess that you encounter Corrupt like the same amount as Ruin

  • Deadeye
    Deadeye Member Posts: 3,627

    For killer specific meta perks (just a pick, and I'm not 100% sure if it is meta as I don't know the actual pick rates)

    • Infectious Fright on Nurse, Oni and Billy
    • Enduring on Billy
    • Bamboozle on Bubba
    • NOED on Freddy (just kidding)
    • Monitor&Abuse on Slinger
    • STBFL on Demo
    • Thana on Legion
  • MadLordJack
    MadLordJack Member Posts: 8,814

    Honestly, killer meta is dependent on both the killer and the players playstyle in question. The reason survivors have such a clearly defined meta is just because they have some insanely strong and very easy to force perks. The same cannot be said for killer, not in so few words.

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,714

    Obviously killer players have different preferences based on which specific killer they’re playing at the moment and what they want out of their perks. But at least at the moment Ruin plus Hex:Undying seems to be a pretty universally popular combo across all killers. Which is leading of course to more survivors focussing on destroying totems. (Which means I personally like running Haunted Ground or even Haunted Ground plus Retribution, it’s pretty much a guaranteed free down or two early in the game right now.)

  • TheClownIsKing
    TheClownIsKing Member Posts: 6,278

    Screw the meta 🤣

    I’ll stick with my:

    • Coulrophobia, Deerstalker, Distressing, Sloppy Butcher, and go on a slugging spree.
    • or Blood Echo + Mindbreaker combo to stop those annoying exhaustion perks, or severely limit their use.
  • Squirrel_Thicc
    Squirrel_Thicc Member Posts: 2,677

    Bbq, nurse's, stbfl, noed, pop, corrupt, and a few more but I don't have the brain to think of more.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 18,126

    ^ exactly.

    I am not even sure if you can really apply the concept of a Meta for Killer Perks. Probably for those which are good on the majority of Killers. But other than that, Killers have some really good Perks which are only good on some Killers and not really helpful on most of them. Infectious Fright is a prime example for that.

    So I would not say that there is a Meta for Killers similar to the Survivor-Perk Meta.

  • Kumnut768
    Kumnut768 Member Posts: 789

    ruin, undying, tinkerer

  • edgarpoop
    edgarpoop Member Posts: 8,778

    Regular public match meta: Corrupt, Pop,BBQ, Ruin, Undying, Haunted, Nurses, Sloppy, Tinkerer, Bamboozle depending the killer, NOED

    Competitive play: standard build is Corrupt/Ruin/Undying and one of these- Surveillance, Haunted, Pop, NOED. No tracking outside of Surveillance or Undying.