People Still Disconnecting

I have been playing like 15 games of Clown today (because rank reset is so chill), and I have had so many disconnects for some reason. I wasnt using NOED, or exhaustion-addons, or moris or any other stuff that could trigger people.

For some odd reason the disconnection penalties actually worsened the problem.

Your words aren't hard, and much of what you say is true. However, much of it is also BS and has nothing to do with my original points.

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Ok, then prepear yourself for a killer dc then:

-He sees the wrong survivor perks in the game. - What? I never said anything about perks. You're offering a counterpoint on something I never mentioned.

-The wrong survivor. (I know they are just hulls, but that David? No sir!) - Again, what? Survivors don't have unique abilities like killers, and I never referred to them once.

-A loop takes to long, to catch up to a survivor. - You can argue the same counterpoint for survivors: the loop is too short to loop the killer, there's not enough pallets, etc.

-He guess to have run into a swf, or at least a good coordinated team. - The game could just be balanced around SWF and this wouldn't be an issue. There have been many excellent suggestions on doing this over the years, and it's only quite recently the devs are implementing said suggestions.

-If gens firing up too fast. - Genrushing isn't a thing. The survivors are doing their primary objective. We don't have insta-completion with brand new parts like we used to. People need to get this out of their head.

-If he gets not enough survivors on a hook in a time he thinks that they need to be. - I'm not even sure what you're trying to prove here.

-The wrong map. - What?

-Keys. - More often than not, this just gives the killer the incentive to bring a mori. Happens to me roughly 75% of the time there's a key (or keys) in my game.

-And many totally acceptable reasons (for him at least...). - This is such a vague comment I don't have the ability to address it.

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All in all, I see multiple references of "I was an admin/moderator" and that's fantastic/good for you. But honestly? To me it's more of a humblebrag. And, frankly, it's irrelevant - nobody really cares about supposed online credentials/experience we can't verify.

I stand by my original point: if you play like a jerk, don't be surprised if people DC. If you're unsportsmanlike, people aren't going to want to play with you. If you get facecamped on the hook because you pallet stunned a killer who didn't bother chasing anyone else and is mad at you, you don't have to play with them. If you get a full SWF who teabags and flashlight spams and runs after you after you immediately down someone, you don't have to play with them. People need to start realizing the more toxic they are, the less fun it becomes for the other players. This is why people DC on the regular.

TL;DR - you reap what you sow.

Some of the survivor mains above have miss a point there: As killer I also do not care if a survivor dcs. Makes my game easier - thanks to that.

But as a player that has some manners and sportmanship, I feel bad for the survivors, even if it is not my fault, since I have not left the game.

What my former admin life matters, so I just have talk about experience. Own and other experiences is a fair thing.

You either learn from it and lead a better life, or you ignore it and run into problems over and over again and that is just fair. I waste not a second on thoughts about a guy who runs into selfmade problems. So it is for me in general ok, if someone ignores the experience of me, or other people.

Just do your thing - but don't run later to someone and ask for help, because "you couldn't know that before".

@EternalEngine

You should play a few weeks killer and you will understand my points better. I have nothing against survivor mains, but if you just play one side, you don't really understand the problems of the other side. Even I as a hardcore killer main, have spent some weeks to play survivor, to understand survivors better.

@Ryan489x

You are right. Some streamers are part of the problem. Would they have started to permaban every streamer and every forummember who openly admitted to dc, we wouldn't have today such a mess.

Of course, some people would have complained and there would have been a small hit what active forum members and players matters, but that would have nothing been, what a few weeks of just running the game could not heal of.

I bet then we would have been rid of this behavior. Not entirely... Dcing is a too common problem for this, but it would be on a much smaller scale as it is today.

@Talmeer not that it really matters (in my opinion, anyway), but I'm currently sitting at R1 killer and survivor, at least until the reset. I play both sides relatively equal.

It matters imo. Then you have made experience, unlike others that haven't yet.

But to come btt: I know that not every point of my list was in your posting to find, but I have just take the common survivor complainments in the list and turn it around.

Besides that, I have found some of your answers a bit hard to understand and also sometimes survivor biased.

I mean, what should I taken from a "what"? It's a bit confusing...

That moris matters so they will be nerfed. Bhvr said already that they working on it. Personally I don't care. Have use them only on one day in the whole time, I have played dbd. Still I hope they let the animations somehow in the game, since I like the animations and if gen rushing is not a thing... Then facecamping and tunnelling is also not a thing imo.

In both cases, the killer only trys to achieve his primary objective. Sounding the words familiar, hm?

That said, I see value in tunnelling sometimes, but have never understand why so many killers relay on facecamping and if you think gen rushing is not a problem, then... You had luck so far. A ton of killers have made this expierence including also some streamers where you can see it online.

Btw. I had say, that survivor are the same, but they doesn't look the same (luckily - no matter what someone thinks, but no killer deserves to see only David's or Ace's!).

Try not to dc when I set 10 traps in the basement with my Hag. :^)

That should never be a thing, but that a balance issue, and if you need that many traps set everywhere you're doing it just to be an #########

I didn't say anything about the actual reasons as to why people DC. All I'm saying is that people shouldn't pikachu face when people DC even though DC penalties are active.

It's bad to that one person that feels they need to DC. not the entire team of 4. solo cue or not. by doing that you screw the rest of the team. not just the killer out of points which is why most people do it

Well, I wrote a long comment that got erased but the main point is the following:

No one wants to play a match being camped/tunneled. I played over the past rift and just got DC's in two matches, one when two people saw that I was Myers and then a third one DC'd because I found him first. And the other match was the last survivor that I was going to hook for the 4K

I am not saying survivors won't DC but there are clearly ways to make a match more enjoyable and sure, being looped by 5 gens and t-bagged is not fun either but it's not cool to blame other survivors and camp/tunnel just because you're angry. Being that said, I understand that those are strategies but there is a difference, if you camp the first survivor who you have found and want to snowball the rest and creating an unfun experience to everyone than knowing that a survivor is near from the recently hooked survivor while you attempt to leave the area.

As I said, those are strategies but being entitled saying "those are strategies so I can use it whenever I please and survivors shouldn't DC or hook in the first hook if I use them" is wrong either. DC is wrong but purposely ruining the match to someone because you're pissed it is as well (being that said many killers who camp in first hook tends to DC when they see survivors doing gens instead of trying to go for the save because they're unable to snowball them).

Basically is this one, survivors DC when they get many matches where they unfairly lose, meaning they get situations where they can't win no matter what they do and before you tell me BT, DS and such stuff, you shouldn't need to add two perks just because there are salty killers who barely know what a mindgame is and don't deserve to be in red ranks (I was in red ranks as a survivor and killer but dropped it because survivors/killers are tryharders), then said survivors decide to ruin the experience to everyone else, meaning spreading the toxicity or saltiness.

I am not saying letting people win matches/escape because that's unfair but I had many 4K matches, none of them DC'ed because even if I outplayed them, said survivors lost fair and square.

By the way, I was using Tinkerer's on Myers lately and is a great perk for him.

I just checked and not only was the average player count not 50k before Blight, the average player count has never been 50k in all of DbD's history. Also, for these past few months DbD was still riding the "high" of the Silent Hill chapter.

Funny how my friend and I manage to cleanse both Ruin and Undying and escape quite regularly. Hell, sometimes we don't even bother, we just rush gens and GTFO, because Ruin literally does nothing until you let go of a gen.