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killer players can never earn respected, right?
Recently I watched some survivor-side streamers, my feeling is that, they always treat killers as fools. No matter how skilled or bad the killers are, these survivors always laugh at killers, just like playing killers is a fault. That reminds me of manythings.
All the killers have different things to learn. When players start a new killer, 3-escape or 4-escape is so common. In this case, most of the survivors would laugh at killers, in contrast to the fact that playing killers have so many technics to learn, while the survivors only need to hide well, and play gen-rush.
I think I play kind enough, when one survivor DC, I would play nice, when I got 3-kill against unskilled survivors, I always let the last one escape, if the opponent plays well, I will not hesitate my praise. But, at last, I got nothing. When I start to play nurse and spirit, when I lose badly, what I got is "You are really a joke". When I try interesting perks, I got "You should't take those perks, so you are bad". Even recently, in red rank, I always meet teams that want to bully me and treat me as fool.
Is playing survivor inherently superior to playing killer?
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They won't if they can't stop playing victim. Same as everyone else.
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I think I threw up in my mouth a little bit.
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I don´t even know where to start on this one. Unfortunately it´s a rather prevalent problem among the community. The urge to humiliate and bad mouth the Killer is widespread. Of course both sides can be toxic, but from my 1,500 hrs experience the BM from Survivors surpasses that of Killers by x1000 easily.
I know it can be hard sometimes, but don´t take it too hard. You got reasonable expectations when trying a new Killer, so that´s good. As long as they do not cross certain lines, you will just have to take it sometimes in order to be able to continue playing.Or close the chat, at the cost of missing out on the nice talks ( I always leave it open).
Survivor isn´t as brain dead ez as it used to be unless playing SWF, I don´t exactly know where you´re going with superior there.
Eventually you may move past all this and encounter all the nice people of the community. There are many, the little idiots just stick out like a sore thumb.
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Let their hate fuel you.
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There are nice, respectful people out there. I think they're even the majority of players. The toxic ones are just more vocal, either because they had a rough match and need to vent or are intentionally trying to be douches.
I find it's easier to get people to be nice by being positive myself. I give hatch quite a lot when games are played 'normally', and I say 'gg <3' or 'gg wp' after almost every match.
Even the survivor sided streamers I've seen tend to be respectful. The thing is, none of us like playing against weak killers/survivors. We want to play to our skill level.
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Trust me man its because playing strong killers and being bad means the douches will make fun of you. Trust me man its not always like that, its just some people have no respectable personalities
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It's a bizarre phenomenon. I've played with people who said "This killer is so baaaaad!" when we were behind by 4 gens and 5 hooks.
It's a defense mechanism? And of course it all comes crashing down when they get outplayed.
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It's not that they can't earn respect. It's that survivors hold killers to a much much higher standard. A respected killer needs to be able to stall a game out for as long as possible without using a strong killer, strong (crutch) perks, paying any attention (camping) to hooks, any form of tunneling, slugging, any other tactic that might seem scummy (3 gen, blood warden, etc), playing unfairly, and finally they always go for 12 hooks.
Meanwhile, killers seem to "respect" anyone that can loop for 20 seconds without overusing pallets or fall for the 1st mind game. It's easy to lose that respect but low standards guys... Real low standards.
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Rewatching twitch games against me as killer I’ve witnessed this same kind of thinking. Hearing four voices saying I was playing terrible. It was great as they slowly realized that they were losing the match.
I was probably ten out of their eleven views on the twitch vod and my favorite parts were when the inevitable dawned on them and when they determined I was toxic.
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Nope after almost having 4k hours I gave up on this toxic community and embraced myself to become *that* type of killer.
I rather have a fun experience then force myself to play friendly just so 4 strangers will have a fun experience
I will tunnel if I need to, I will slug if I need to, I will camp if I need to, I will force a 3 gen if I need to.
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Don't put to much emphasis on what someone states while they are playing the game. It is most likely just some trash talk for entertainment and stress release.
They usually don't even transfer that stuff into the end game chat or what not. Even though I do believe that people are quick to lay judgement on killers for simply playing the game at the speed set by the survivors and a double standard being held. Don't judge those that stream based on their commentary on their game while playing.
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survivors are just the most toxic because for the most part it easy role even with out swf it not hard.I mean your not all going to get out every match and your going to get bad team mates but sometime but even solo get out a winner.
but most toxic are the swf groups who know they broken think they all that.
funny survivor use every dirty trick in the book survivors shouldn't have any respect because everything they have.
survivors want respect win match with no items no add on and no perks because survivor can do it that ways
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Just play like you want. If playing fair fitts to your character, then play as such a killer. If it doesn't, then play a little more toxic.
But stop listening to salty survivors. You will never ever make them happy. They have a completely different mindset as yours. While you like to play the game as it is thought, they hoping to ruin a other players day to feeling themself better.
Don't let that come to you and just ignore them.
The most survivors are not like them luckily.
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I think 95% of the survivor are scumbag so im not surprise with that kind of text. Dont get me wrong sometime you will face some survivor with good manner but i think i can count them on one hand and i have played this game for 3 years
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Well I find it hard to believe that most Killers are total #########, but if that´s your experience, I´m sorry for you, you have to be unbelievably unlucky in this regard.
Secondly treating everybody disrespectful until they earn it is an (literally) unhealthy mindset. Many people I know would eagerly take you round the corner to teach you some if you´d behave like that, you know?
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Unfortunately, how the community works is survivors are angels who cant be touched and killers are mean camping tunneling jerks. Such is the wayof the ggame
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I love how people act like you can't play both sides. I usually play the killer, but that's because I find survivor boring. Holding M1 is boring to me, I play survivor when I want to relax. Killer is an intense experience the entire match.
And it's not like the survivors are helpless victims, you are only helpless in the face of the strongest killers / builds in the game. Other than that? You can still mess the killer up in a 1v1 if you play better than them. That's the appeal of DBD. People who get slaughtered and then cry about just need to play better in most cases, because most killers rely on survivor mistakes.
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With helpless i ment you can not defend youself. Killer can hurt survivors but not the way around. This is not a complain, i just give you the answer i think about this topic.
By the way i also play both sides, so i understand also how it feels to be annoyed by 4 little brats, but what has that to do with the question the op has?
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I have a feeling he one of tho survivor that disrespect the killer at the start why killer becomes an a hole.
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I´m not so sure, maybe this guy is just burnt out or something. But yes, it can go both ways and many people are ignorant about their own involvement in situations.
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Killer can hurt survivors but not the other way around? I disagree with that. You can run the killer for 4-5 generators, slamming pallets on their head the entire time, and that is not hurting them?
If a killer is focusing me and they don't have a particularly BS chase mechanic I love it. It's my chance to carry the game. That's why I don't get people who complain about being tunneled. I'd rather get tunneled out and be the person with the entire map to work with than someone hiding and doing the gens, because at least then something friggin happened that game.
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I like that attitude, you seem to be the kind of guy I learned not to chase for too long :P
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I will admit that many killers are very overtuned right now, and some could probably use a general nerf across the board. They feel designed for the pallet infested maps of old, where-as many of the new maps are barren and give little option to the survivors other than to hide. And I like DBD as an action game instead of hide-and-seek which is why I am disappointed in the way the game is headed.
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well I like the hide-and-seek of the game but all survivors are different also play both sides so I know how killer feel why they want to end a chase.
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That doesn't matter? The killer should not automatically get a down because they found you. The killer tracking perks are just way too strong for that.
I hate having immersed survivors on my team. It's literally painful to watch someone urban evading around while there is a clear indicator someone else is being chased. I can't put on bond in solo Q because I will rage at how incompetent my team is most of the time. And it's not even for being bad in a chase, it's just for simple decision making. Hiding when your team is being killed off and you are 100% safe to do gens. That's why I mori every blendette I come across.
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good thing I don't use blendette but I use urban evade and spine chill,I like to know what incompetent in a teammate to you
I maybe urban evading around but I doing gens and totems (I don't use a map or tho perks) still find 3 or 4 ,take people off hook safely(no BT) and if I can't and the killers camping I'll trade hooks sometimes and I don't use 2nd change perks.I'm a solo rank 3
so I like to know what a good teammate is
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Its just how people work. A lot of survivors think that survivor is the hard side and killer is simple and easy. Amusingly, they don't play much killer. They just don't think about the fact that they only need to do well at 2-3 chases, whereas killers need to absolutely destroy all the time.
So, naturally, they are convinced they are the superior player, and that the only way you could have beaten them was not by overcoming their skill but by cheating. So, everyone that beats them is scum and used scummy tactics, and anyone that they beat sucks and deserves to be shite on.
There's killers that have a similar mentality, to be sure, but it's just far more common with survivors because there's far more survivors.
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4 survivors to 1 killer means you're going to see more toxicity from survivors, even if there's a bit more of it from killers on average, tbh.
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Even considering the 4:1 ratio it´s baffling how much more toxic Survivor players are than Killers on average, but that´s only my experience. It seems that it´s shared by many, though. If you encounter many Killers that BM you´re quite unlucky I assume, I legit get that extremely rarely if at all.
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A good teammate is someone who actually does gens, makes smart saves, and makes relatively good decisions. You don't need to be good in a chase to be good at DBD, although I find the chases to be the only fun part of it so I have engaged in them enough I would say I am relatively good at them.
I am saying I have watched, as the obsession is across the map being chased, (using resources); my teammates hiding behind rocks and bushes while fully healthy and never been hooked. It literally just happened in the game I played because I haven't played survivor in so long i'm back at rank 9. But it happens all the way at rank 1-4 as well.
I am sitting on a gen injured after the killer had to abandon a chase with me, and they are standing behind the tree near me because we are in the 40m monitor and abuse terror radius and they are too scared to get on it and actually progress the game. That's how you lose. And we lost. It was a hatch game, and I keyed out. There was a survivor who went down next to the basement, which already had someone in it, to finish a gen. I had to rush down there to get the guy out before he got a 2 man basement and ended the game. Then I had to abandon the shack and go to unsafe loops where I got downed so my teammates could make a basement save and they slacked so hard on it he almost got back in time. None of that had anything to do with gameplay ability, that was all decision making, and poor decision making.
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that fair sound liek case bad matchmaking remember I play solo you know all tho thing I do I'm normally the last hooked first hooked something I did everything gens totems hook safes my team let me die on first hook and 3 of them get out so I know how it feel.
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The salty survivors are immature children whose parents have failed them. Don't take what they say to heart, they're just lashing out because they're not used to the real world yet and think everything exists to serve them. You should feel bad for them because they're pathetic members of society who will probably never learn how to be productive or do anything beneficial with their lives.
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Oh wow that's really mean of them. I'm sorry that happened to you recently. I don't like when people take the time to wait until the game is over to leave a 'constructive' message, no matter what side they play on. I had a survivor spam unhooking me for a minute straight before teabagging and leaving me to die... on my first hook. I've seen the toxicity against killers, too-- I was in a nice guy's stream and, since I play on console, I didn't have an end game chat (although i found his twitch and told him it was a great match and that i loved the video!) but my teammate called him a certain slur starting with an 'f' and ending with a 't' which I found especially cruel. I don't like that attitude, and I'm sorry you're having so many bad run ins with this stuff. All I can say is thank you for being considerate and good luck in future matches, make sure to have fun, too :)!
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I didn't suggest there is more, I said even if there is more.
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also a classic:
survivors that don't know what certain perks do and call you a hacker.
Recently had that in someone's stream where they accused me of wallhacking because I found them in lockers and been able to find them after losing sight of them.
The perks I run? Whispers and Bloodhound (plus Murmur and Tremors).
AND one of them didn't know the killer gets a notification i you enter a locker quickly...
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This alllll day. If you wanna really have fun playing killer you gotta just play for yourself. Sure you might let one go every now and then like when 2 dc or something w.e. But here's the thing, I can promise you that most Survivors aren't worrying about if you are having a fun game. "Show no mercy, for you shall receive none" lol. Gl out there.
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Survivors essentially expect to get a full 4 man escape every game. If they don't get this, they will complain.
I've been yelled at for:
- Not allowing survivors to farm after a DC.
- Allowing survivors to farm after a DC.
- Not letting a survivor heal.
- Bodyblocking as Wraith.
- Using traps as Hag.
- Using my chainsaw as Bubba.
- Using static blast as Doc
Keep in mind that survivors are also the ones who will teabag you, flashlight spam you and wait at the exit to taunt you some more.
Translation: I get to act like a jerk and you don't get to complain about it.
Then why is it that, at rank 13-14, about half my matches are 1-2 high ranked players queueing with a low ranked player in SWF (who still has full perks and addons) to abuse low rank protections to crush lowbie killers?
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