Allow Killers to Drop Pallet during Chases.

Hear me out mates. One issue with the higher ranks is running around a single pallet before finally dropping it after circling it many times. So here's an idea, why not have killers be able to drop the pallets during chases? Keyword, DURING CHASES, you can't run around dropping pallets then breaking them to make chases impossible...cause that would be broken. Killers should be allowed to drop them during chases to speed things along.

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  • Whispers23
    Whispers23 Member Posts: 111

    That would make them useless.

  • Lagoni
    Lagoni Member Posts: 180

    This would not work. EVERY game would start with the killer finding a survivor, just to run away and drop pallets until the chase would end, because it would save you time overall to not have god-pallets.
    The idea could work as an activation perk. after x amount of seconds spent in a chase, the perk becomes active, and you can drop a single pallet. I still don't think it's a good idea though (Spirit fury, and enduring already has something similar as well).

  • Giche
    Giche Member Posts: 753

    Yeah, and change the chase music with the Benny Hill's theme.

    Would already fit what the game has become, and it would be even better if the Killer could also do their own cheesy dance around stuff...

  • TheLegendDyl4n1
    TheLegendDyl4n1 Member Posts: 1,493

    @TheMadDoctor said:
    Hear me out mates. One issue with the higher ranks is running around a single pallet before finally dropping it after circling it many times. So here's an idea, why not have killers be able to drop the pallets during chases? Keyword, DURING CHASES, you can't run around dropping pallets then breaking them to make chases impossible...cause that would be broken. Killers should be allowed to drop them during chases to speed things along.

    ok do us all a favor and throw out your computer then go get it delete your account and throw it out again

  • TheMadDoctor
    TheMadDoctor Member Posts: 250

    @TheMadDoctor said:
    Hear me out mates. One issue with the higher ranks is running around a single pallet before finally dropping it after circling it many times. So here's an idea, why not have killers be able to drop the pallets during chases? Keyword, DURING CHASES, you can't run around dropping pallets then breaking them to make chases impossible...cause that would be broken. Killers should be allowed to drop them during chases to speed things along.

    ok do us all a favor and throw out your computer then go get it delete your account and throw it out again

    Jesus christ man it was just an idea.
  • TheLegendDyl4n1
    TheLegendDyl4n1 Member Posts: 1,493

    @TheMadDoctor said:
    TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @TheMadDoctor said:

    Hear me out mates. One issue with the higher ranks is running around a single pallet before finally dropping it after circling it many times. So here's an idea, why not have killers be able to drop the pallets during chases? Keyword, DURING CHASES, you can't run around dropping pallets then breaking them to make chases impossible...cause that would be broken. Killers should be allowed to drop them during chases to speed things along.

    ok do us all a favor and throw out your computer then go get it delete your account and throw it out again

    Jesus christ man it was just an idea.

    im sorry just you gotta do some research and if you did you would see how bad this is

  • TheMadDoctor
    TheMadDoctor Member Posts: 250
    Lagoni said:

    This would not work. EVERY game would start with the killer finding a survivor, just to run away and drop pallets until the chase would end, because it would save you time overall to not have god-pallets.
    The idea could work as an activation perk. after x amount of seconds spent in a chase, the perk becomes active, and you can drop a single pallet. I still don't think it's a good idea though (Spirit fury, and enduring already has something similar as well).

    Hmmmm yeah but the issue is it seemingly is going back to an issue with DBD. Perks made to underly issues with the base mechanics. I will agree, it could be balanced. I would say giving this a long cool down would help since it forces a killer to think about loop points in a map and if he ahould limit a specific one to catch up. I would prefer it be a base mechanic instead of a perk.
  • TheMadDoctor
    TheMadDoctor Member Posts: 250

    @TheMadDoctor said:
    TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @TheMadDoctor said:

    Hear me out mates. One issue with the higher ranks is running around a single pallet before finally dropping it after circling it many times. So here's an idea, why not have killers be able to drop the pallets during chases? Keyword, DURING CHASES, you can't run around dropping pallets then breaking them to make chases impossible...cause that would be broken. Killers should be allowed to drop them during chases to speed things along.

    ok do us all a favor and throw out your computer then go get it delete your account and throw it out again

    Jesus christ man it was just an idea.

    im sorry just you gotta do some research and if you did you would see how bad this is

    Still. I'm aware, this is just an idea.
  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    maybe the entitus should just block the pallet, similar to a window, when the same survivor runs through it more than 2 times during one chase...

  • TheMadDoctor
    TheMadDoctor Member Posts: 250

    @Mister_xD said:
    maybe the entitus should just block the pallet, similar to a window, when the same survivor runs through it more than 2 times during one chase...

    yeah that would be one way to fix that issue, but this was just an idea cause I doubt the devs would do that.

  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    @TheMadDoctor said:

    @Mister_xD said:
    maybe the entitus should just block the pallet, similar to a window, when the same survivor runs through it more than 2 times during one chase...

    yeah that would be one way to fix that issue, but this was just an idea cause I doubt the devs would do that.

    well, i do understand where your idea is comming from, but i see several issues with that tbh... that way there would be almost no pallets left on the whole map, since every time you enter a chase you just break as many of them as you can, before the chase ends, leaving them with almost no pallets...
    so, i know how annoying loops are, but there has to be a different way to solve that problem, without breaking the whole game i mean.

  • TheMadDoctor
    TheMadDoctor Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2018
    Mister_xD said:

    @TheMadDoctor said:

    @Mister_xD said:
    maybe the entitus should just block the pallet, similar to a window, when the same survivor runs through it more than 2 times during one chase...

    yeah that would be one way to fix that issue, but this was just an idea cause I doubt the devs would do that.

    well, i do understand where your idea is comming from, but i see several issues with that tbh... that way there would be almost no pallets left on the whole map, since every time you enter a chase you just break as many of them as you can, before the chase ends, leaving them with almost no pallets...
    so, i know how annoying loops are, but there has to be a different way to solve that problem, without breaking the whole game i mean.

    I do appreciate your opinion. After thinking, I did come up with some ideas, they're rough but decent ideas I believe. One was having you only able to do this if you were in a chase for a specific amount of time and the cooldown for this being rather long like over a minute, maybe 90 seconds and this cool down will only start once the chase ends. The other idea was to also allow you to only drop a couple pallets every match. So you can't really abuse the mechanic. Honestly, my biggest issue is relying on pallets and looping in order to survive. Giving the survivors more base mechanics to work with for chases would be a neat idea. Yet, I don't actually know how that would be done without scewing the balance way more in the survivor's favor without making huge changes to base mechanics to killers or reworking how chases work entirely.
  • DisturbedZ
    DisturbedZ Member Posts: 59

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @TheMadDoctor said:
    Hear me out mates. One issue with the higher ranks is running around a single pallet before finally dropping it after circling it many times. So here's an idea, why not have killers be able to drop the pallets during chases? Keyword, DURING CHASES, you can't run around dropping pallets then breaking them to make chases impossible...cause that would be broken. Killers should be allowed to drop them during chases to speed things along.

    ok do us all a favor and throw out your computer then go get it delete your account and throw it out again

    this is by far the funniest thing I have read today lol a bit harsh but yeah I couldn't say that would be a good idea to allow killers to mess with the pallets. Giving killers the ability to use pallets against survivors would be like giving the survivors the ability to knock a killer into a hook getting him stuck for a few seconds. Yes it does get annoying when you find that one survivor that knows how to use that loop perfectly but you keep trying to take away from either side it only going to cause an issue with the opposite side. There isn't any real way to appease both sides, the best I can think of is to give more perks to both sides to make each survivor/killer more unique to that individual player. I could see a perk that allows the killer some form of a dodge when a pallet is dropped or maybe a chance the pallet doesn't fall and have it dependent on a skill check but with a long cool down timer otherwise it negates the pallets being effective. At the same time I could see a need/want for a pallet perk for a survivor that does extra stun, or like a dizzy effect afterwards.

  • TheMadDoctor
    TheMadDoctor Member Posts: 250

    @TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @TheMadDoctor said:
    Hear me out mates. One issue with the higher ranks is running around a single pallet before finally dropping it after circling it many times. So here's an idea, why not have killers be able to drop the pallets during chases? Keyword, DURING CHASES, you can't run around dropping pallets then breaking them to make chases impossible...cause that would be broken. Killers should be allowed to drop them during chases to speed things along.

    ok do us all a favor and throw out your computer then go get it delete your account and throw it out again

    this is by far the funniest thing I have read today lol a bit harsh but yeah I couldn't say that would be a good idea to allow killers to mess with the pallets. Giving killers the ability to use pallets against survivors would be like giving the survivors the ability to knock a killer into a hook getting him stuck for a few seconds. Yes it does get annoying when you find that one survivor that knows how to use that loop perfectly but you keep trying to take away from either side it only going to cause an issue with the opposite side. There isn't any real way to appease both sides, the best I can think of is to give more perks to both sides to make each survivor/killer more unique to that individual player. I could see a perk that allows the killer some form of a dodge when a pallet is dropped or maybe a chance the pallet doesn't fall and have it dependent on a skill check but with a long cool down timer otherwise it negates the pallets being effective. At the same time I could see a need/want for a pallet perk for a survivor that does extra stun, or like a dizzy effect afterwards

  • TheMadDoctor
    TheMadDoctor Member Posts: 250

    Sorry ment to quote and say my reply, but the damn thing bugged out and I can't delete the stupid thing to fix it.
    Anyway, did you even read the suggestions I had in the thread? Feels like your just heare cause of the little toxic comment left on here.

  • Kind_Lemon
    Kind_Lemon Member Posts: 2,559
    edited October 2018

    A better idea would be to ask for pallets to need set up time before they can be thrown rather than the ability of killers to destroy pallets (upright or not) they can find.

    Edit: Removed the word ‘all’ before ‘pallets’ because it improperly represented the OP.
    Added the word ‘can’ before ‘find’

    Post edited by Kind_Lemon on
  • TheMadDoctor
    TheMadDoctor Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2018

    @Kind_Lemon said:
    A better idea would be to ask for pallets to need set up time before they can be thrown rather than the ability of killers to destroy all pallets (upright or not) they find.

    I also mentioned different ideas for that, never said they be allowed to destroy all pallets. I mentioned ideas like being allowed to only do it but only to a couple pallets per trial with heavy cooldowns each time its done.

  • Kind_Lemon
    Kind_Lemon Member Posts: 2,559

    @Kind_Lemon said:
    A better idea would be to ask for pallets to need set up time before they can be thrown rather than the ability of killers to destroy all pallets (upright or not) they find.

    I also mentioned different ideas for that, never said they be allowed to destroy all pallets. I mentioned ideas like being allowed to only do it but only to a couple pallets per trial with heavy cooldowns each time its done.

    I corrected what I said. You’re revolving around an idea that takes away aspects of the game rather than adding more depth. Making it harder by removing abilities is a ton less fun.
  • TheMadDoctor
    TheMadDoctor Member Posts: 250

    @Kind_Lemon said:
    TheMadDoctor said:

    @Kind_Lemon said:

    A better idea would be to ask for pallets to need set up time before they can be thrown rather than the ability of killers to destroy all pallets (upright or not) they find.

    I also mentioned different ideas for that, never said they be allowed to destroy all pallets. I mentioned ideas like being allowed to only do it but only to a couple pallets per trial with heavy cooldowns each time its done.

    I corrected what I said. You’re revolving around an idea that takes away aspects of the game rather than adding more depth. Making it harder by removing abilities is a ton less fun.

    I'm sorry, but what do you mean remove abilities? That makes no sense, plus, you can't pallet stun survivors with this idea.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243

    @TheMadDoctor said:
    Hear me out mates. One issue with the higher ranks is running around a single pallet before finally dropping it after circling it many times. So here's an idea, why not have killers be able to drop the pallets during chases? Keyword, DURING CHASES, you can't run around dropping pallets then breaking them to make chases impossible...cause that would be broken. Killers should be allowed to drop them during chases to speed things along.

    ok do us all a favor and throw out your computer then go get it delete your account and throw it out again

    Jesus christ man it was just an idea.
    @TheMadDoctor, you gotta ignore certain people. They are uncivilized and can't have a discussion without them insulting you! :)

    However just ignore them!
  • TheMadDoctor
    TheMadDoctor Member Posts: 250

    @Nickenzie said:
    TheMadDoctor said:


    TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @TheMadDoctor said:

    Hear me out mates. One issue with the higher ranks is running around a single pallet before finally dropping it after circling it many times. So here's an idea, why not have killers be able to drop the pallets during chases? Keyword, DURING CHASES, you can't run around dropping pallets then breaking them to make chases impossible...cause that would be broken. Killers should be allowed to drop them during chases to speed things along.

    ok do us all a favor and throw out your computer then go get it delete your account and throw it out again

    Jesus christ man it was just an idea.

    @TheMadDoctor, you gotta ignore certain people. They are uncivilized and can't have a discussion without them insulting you! :)

    However just ignore them!

    I kind of got that idea, what did you think of it?

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243

    @Nickenzie said:
    TheMadDoctor said:


    TheLegendDyl4n1 said:

    @TheMadDoctor said:

    Hear me out mates. One issue with the higher ranks is running around a single pallet before finally dropping it after circling it many times. So here's an idea, why not have killers be able to drop the pallets during chases? Keyword, DURING CHASES, you can't run around dropping pallets then breaking them to make chases impossible...cause that would be broken. Killers should be allowed to drop them during chases to speed things along.

    ok do us all a favor and throw out your computer then go get it delete your account and throw it out again

    Jesus christ man it was just an idea.

    @TheMadDoctor, you gotta ignore certain people. They are uncivilized and can't have a discussion without them insulting you! :)

    However just ignore them!

    I kind of got that idea, what did you think of it?

    I have mixed feelings about it and I think that there's better ways to solve the pallet looping problem such as more LoS blockers!