Tunnel champs

Sadly you just demonstrated you have no clue what you are talking about.

No, you don't use perks to counter tunnellers you used chase.

If they chase you and you alone then your teammates can pop gens quickly for the second time.

Pay attention.

Yes, I forget I am talking to people who likely don't even understand hook phases.

Therefore I would assume he would just understand that, although you have a point of saying it just in case. XD

Sure occasionally your team is incompetent, however generally they will actually just do gens naturally.

The problem is this is a strawman because I haven't assumed one thing or the other, I simply stated if you are in chase your team can get gens, and that's the end of that.

Stop being disingenuous, the point was simple, if he does his part his team can do their part. IF they don't then its not on him, its on his team, either way survivors still would be the reason why the tunnel worked.

Present my argument how it is given, very much so if you are gunna quote it because otherwise you look silly.

Funny how you say that because you said if he's getting chased then his team can get gens but what if they don't? What if they're hiding in a corner because they so happen to be in the terror radius while he's trying to loop that pallet that happens to be near the area where the gen is? You think every survivor is doing gens when they're in a corner/locker hoping the heartbeat would just go away. Yeah whatever floats your boat man

Stop making a circular argument ill state it one last time.

If they don't it the other survs fault, in that case its still the survs fault they lost to tunnel.

I don't think anything other then what I have told you to your knowledge, so back off and stop telling me what I think and form a actual argument that doesn't rely on you strawmaning me and focusing on semantics to win points for an argument that is flawed from the start.

It's funny you say that because when he responded back to you about anti tunnel perks you said he was wrong and telling him to rely on his teammates for his survival when basically this is a last man standing type of game. He can do what he wants and equip what he needs to survive the trial. That's basically what the game is about

Strawman, illogical conclusion, generally fallacious as well is not an argument but a assertion.

Therefore true to my word, I will just be stating you fallacy and adhere to the fallacy's fallacy, as if you aren't interested in a real conversation then I am not either.

Sure whatever floats your boat buddy

This time I am just confused as to what your intention was when saying this to me.

If its to call me smart, then thank you although I don't need compliments.

Yesterday I tunneled David because I was mad at him. He was hiding all match and I found him only at the end. While every survivor was already hooked twice, this son of a ######### was successfully avoiding me. And he pissed me off when he let Dwight die on hook. I was so far away from hook chasing Bill, But Feng and David let Dwight die on second stage in the middle of the map, where everyone could unhook him. Dwight was srtuggling to the last second. Sometimes I can tunnel on purpose if survivor piss me off this much.

Are you sure you not playing unfair to killer if you are getting tunneled EVERY game? This is really hard to get tunneled in this game, because vast majority of killers still playing fair. At least to me when I play survivor. Of course there is exceptions, but it's rare. Is it me lucky, or we are having different definitions for tunneling?

That's terrible lol I'm sure these are outliers but it's interesting when killers do stuff like that. I would think bright cosmetics means they aren't hiding and would be a welcomed choice for killers. That bright green wig stands out in the grass.

I hate 2 minute matches esp when the killer downs the 3 survs while Im doing gens. I usually have to unhook or save a surv to give a little chance for one of us to escape. But sadly I get killed. I have escaped a few times with Left Behind perk its a must to have it equipped. Anyway, a lower rank killer seems to be more fun to play against since the match lasts a lot longer. Killers should not b allowed to down more than one survivor.

sigh

Or you can stop assuming im acting in bad faith, my replys are quite quick so "big words" aren't big and in no sense has anyone of you asked my to define them.

Im talking exactly how I would talk in real life.

Don't be the other guy and assert my intentions and pretend you know what I am thinking when my argument is stated above and it is simple.

I decided to solo queue tonight for the first time in, like, a year. First game was a poor console Hag with no addons that never really committed to any chases, but she snagged someone at the end for a kill. Unsure if they were on a challenge or a daily there.

Second game: Myers runs around hunting me, the obsession. He ignores everyone else, and the other survivors just run around him while he keeps looking for me. At the end, catches me, goes EW3, and moris me. A couple of the other survivors even tried leading him to me in the beginning. Very frustrating to have the killer tunnel you, and then your own teammates help him find you...

First time eating the leaver penalty.

Edit: Very next game: griefed by an Adam against an Ebony Mori Hag. Like, ######### is with getting sandbagged tonight?

That guy complains about people assuming what he's said yet does nothing but assume everything about situations people are in straight down to 'well its your fault I'm tunneling you because your team isn't doing gens fast enough'. It's a really interesting thought process, to say the least. Lmao.

But yeah tunneling/hard face camping has gotten worse as of late. I took a break for like a week or so after getting agitated with how bad it's been and came back for the event/rift today just to get three different pigs face camp and tunnel me to death, going out of their way to get solely me even when my team tried their damndest to take agro (solo que mind you). In a couple, at least two got out. In one my whole team died trying to prevent her from killing me. I swear to God my name is on some hit list sometimes, I mean I don't get it, it isn't like I did anything to them to warrant it. It can't possibly be that much fun to go into every match with the intention of just ruining the game for someone else on purpose.

I have gotten warned by killers (ps4) after they've tunneled me out of a match in the past with ######### like 'next time don't bring a key'. Only time I bring keys is when I'm doing a challenge that requires escaping or I'm just sick of getting screwed in matches. Maybe it's just me, but I don't think it should be acceptable for people to target and threaten others just for using what's at their disposal as far as addons/offerings/items go. There might not be anything BHVR can do about it, but it's pretty deplorable.

I might not enjoy getting mori'd, but as long as you're not literally just right there waiting for a save to mori me off first hook at the start of the match, I don't care if you use a mori. I'm not going to tell you that you can't or you shouldn't and when I'm upset with some stupidly oppressive build *cough forever Freddy* I'm not upset with the player for using what they've got. I'm upset that the devs allow something like that to exist. Just like the whole Legion double mending addon exploit that got fixed. That's on the devs and they were banning people for using two addons which is ridiculous, what if someone didn't know?

Personally I really liked trying to be a "fair" killer that tried their best to never tunnel and then getting teabagged and toxic messaged for it. "Oh, you gave me a chance after I got unhooked and then ran in circles like a doofus? Well you're a terrible idiot killer and deserve much toxic ridicule" 😑