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Easy Builds for Baby Killers

Unicorn
Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

Hi. My name is Unicorn and I'm a Baby Killer.


They say once you can admit it, that's the first step to recovery.


My current build that I am familiar and confident with running is STBFL, Remember Me, Bloodhound and Pop Goes The Weasel.


I suck at creativity just as much as I suck at Killer.

Any suggestions?

Help all us Baby Killers around the globe.

Thanks in advance <3

Comments

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    I want to say Huntress but on console, OOF.

    I love her so much, but preferably on Console I enjoy playing with Freddy & Hag.

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    Don't be shy to toss a few tips in too! ^.^


    Tips are always appreciated.

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    Thana and Sloppy for slow heals

    Pop for regressed gens after hooking

    BBQ for spotting Survivors


    Seems good!

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    My question is why does a baby killer have perks that are unlockables from four different killers in their build?

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    Because I purchased DLC Killers and leveled them up...?

  • dugman
    dugman Member Posts: 9,713

    Ok, still takes a little while to get that many Bloodpoints to get them all to level 40 but whatever, you're just not what I'd picture a brand new player to be I guess. 🤷‍♂️

  • WishIcouldmain
    WishIcouldmain Member Posts: 4,082

    With huntress those first three perks don't really synergize with her since she has an M2 attack that you should use more then M1. STBFL is good on Freddy and pretty good on Hag since it allows her to maybe get to that second sprung trap with quicker cool down. Don't really need bloodhound on Freddy since with Oblivious it isn't to hard to find survivors same with hag since your traps will find them. With remember me not really the best I'd put in say sloppy or corrupt for synergy with Pop instead. So with Freddy and Hag try Corrupt, PGTW, Sloppy, and, STBFl. Or for freddy put in BBQ for Sloppy. Sloppy works with hag since they either waste their time healing letting you reset traps or stay injured and unexpectedly run into your traps injured for a easy down. Huntress same Corrupt and PGTW, but Whispers, and BBQ. Try that. Don't play too aggressive with Hag and be fast to teleport. Freddy you can be aggressive or defensive. And huntress be aggressive.

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    Never said I was a brand new player, I said I was a Baby Killer meaning I have little to no experience and skill on Killer.

    All my hours are mostly spent on Survivor .

  • AvisDeene
    AvisDeene Member Posts: 2,396

    I don't consider myself a good Killer, but I don't consider myself bad either. I am just average.

    My crutch perk as Killer is Whispers. It lets me know survivors are around so I don't have to waste time looking in deserted areas. I really wish this would be made baseline for Killers.

    You say you play Huntress, well Iron Maiden is decent for her. I can't play her since I am terrible with hatchets, but I am pretty sure that opening lockers faster will help you over all. It will also help discourage Survivors from hiding in lockers.

    If you're good with your hatchets at long distances, BBQ+Chili would help you with blood points and tell you where Survivors are, possibly letting you get a hit off from across the maps.

    As a baby killer, you are required to run NoEd. Gens go so fast these days, Survivors forget about totems about 9 out of 10 games. It may not give you a Kill, but its snowball potential is good.

    Not a perk, but don't be afraid to camp if you have to. Once they're down to two gens left, if you have one on a hook, close to three gens, don't leave the area. You can protect the three gens while also securing a Kill. If they manage to rescue, you should be able to have them trade places.

    Pop goes the weasel is good to consider as well. Try to always keep the three closes gens protected throughout the match. When they have one gen left, protect the three grouped up gens and regress them as much as possible. This strategy works really will with Trapper, Hag and Doctor, especially if you run Ruin and you get fortunate enough for the totem to spawn between the three.


    One bit of advice I will give you is, don't fall for chasing someone who wants you to chase them. If they tbag, flashlight click, or vault spam over and over, they want your attention so they could loop you to kingdom come. Act like you're going to chase them and break off and aim for the weakest link. Maps are designed to give Survivors the advantage in a chase and decent Survivors can loop you for 5 gens.

    Expect lots of salt. Many times, no matter how nice you play or if you do things out of desperation, you will get insulted. Heck, if you never tunnel or camp, and 3 hook everyone, you will still find someone that will insult you or tell you to ######### or some such. Ignore it, they're just angry teenagers who can't cope with life.

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    Ahh, no wonder why my games suck besides the obvious fact of me being inexperienced.


    Thank you for this! I'm actually writing this down. ^.^

  • AvisDeene
    AvisDeene Member Posts: 2,396

    I like how happy you seem. I hope playing Killer doesn't ruin you.

  • WishIcouldmain
    WishIcouldmain Member Posts: 4,082

    I could help more what were scenarios were you've made a mistake?

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    The problem with Whispers and me is the distance of where it spans. I suck at covering the area that Whispers is going off, and maybe its because I thoroughly don't understand how to track correctly yet. I usually throw on Bloodhound or the other Wraith perk that makes scratch significantly closer (if that is a Wraith perk, not sure haha).


    Also, I've gotten the worst of the worst Salt already. Ever since my last salty message (a few months ago) I made everything private. Some people are just insanely unhappy & can say the most horrid things to someone over a game.

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340
  • Blazelski
    Blazelski Member Posts: 351

    The best advice in general is to watch good streamers play killer. Seeing what they do is much more effective than trying to translate someone's words.

    Hag works best when she's camping, proxy camping, or preparing to camp (which is why I hate her). Depending on closeness of the survivor, it often makes more sense to set a trap in the middle of an area likely to get traffic than it does to chase the person you just hit, as bad as it often feels to leave a chase. Try to always have near the maximum amount of traps currently in play. Committing to a chase is often certain death for Hag. Make Your Choice, Monitor & Abuse, BBQ, potentially any Hexes, Franklin's Demise potentially, are all decent choices on her.

    I have no particular tips for Freddy because I think he's too OPpressive and I hate him, but Pop is a good choice for him.


    General tips: From what I've seen, most baby killers make three primary mistakes.

    1: They don't try to hide their red stain on tall loops by briefly walking backwards or sideways. This helps secure faster downs. (I don't do this either much, but that's because I'd rather perform poorly than spend time walking backwards.) I also don't know how easy this is on console, but maybe worth trying?

    2: Not breaking pallets around loops, especially at long loops. On short loops (length-wise, not height-wise), and especially on tall AND short loops, you can get away with this potentially, but on longer loops, most experienced survivors will know how to loop the feature well and waste a lot of your time.

    3: Respecting pallets too often. Generally, it's better to eat a pallet than it is to get punished for not eating the pallet. Again, generally.

    Bonus tip: Remember Me is generally considered a terrible perk, because it is. I'd basically never recommend it. Bloodhound is a great tracking perk, but you want to be/get good enough at tracking that you don't need mid-chase tracking perks.

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    Well for starters,

    I can't track Survivors for the life of me. I lose chases so fast lol.


    I had one game where I played Huntress. I believe I was running my build said above and I was against what I'm sure was a group.

    So anyway, I sucked this game, like SUPER BAD lol.

    I couldn't catch anyone, I was getting a little impatient with the looping so I'd try to switch up my running path to see if they would leave the loop and go somewhere. That was a fail. Then I finally caught a Meg (after 3 1/2 gens being done), hooked her, went to go look for other Survivors. I found a Feng, downed her, kicked the gen & hooked her. The meg got saved, and by that time the gates were powered. I don't know if Meg did it purposely or what, but she was the only Survivor I crossed paths with when the gates were powered, so I decided to go after her because she was hurt. When I picked her up, she DS'd me and everyone got out, with of course, teabags at the gate because that's the signature Survivor win taunt in game lol.

    I felt so humiliated and defeated. I think that's the last time I ever played Killer.

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340
    edited October 2020

    I watch Tru3 and Monto.

    Used to watch Marth but I stopped when he stopped playing.

    Are those some streamers you'd recommend?

    ;x


    Edit: and yes that is my exact goal. Get better at tracking so I don't have to depend on tracking perks.

  • WishIcouldmain
    WishIcouldmain Member Posts: 4,082
    edited October 2020

    Don't give up I've had my ups and downs form 5 gen 4ks to the 0ks with teabags at gates really painful coming from a DS Dwight. Just happens if you have problems keeping track of people try Shadow borne the perma 18 extra degrees fov is good with hatchet shots or seeing them sneak by a pile of stuff or seeing them behind something. Or Stridor maybe with that 25 percent louder breathing you realize they're heading away to another loop. Or I'm all ears to pull a mindgame on them not realizing you see them. Try one of those three.

  • Blazelski
    Blazelski Member Posts: 351

    I don't really have any strong streamer suggestions, I honestly don't remember how I got decent at killer other than just time and some "how to play killer well" videos, maybe. Otzdarva seems like a really good killer from what I've seen recently. Try watching him play killer a bit, and see what mental notes you can take. That'd be my suggestion.

  • The_Bootie_Gorgon
    The_Bootie_Gorgon Member Posts: 2,340

    play perkless and without addons everytime you try a new killer.

    headphones, headphones, headphones!!!!! audio cues are extremely important for killers.

    check your emotions at the door when you play killer. Emotions can lead to bad decisions.

    The game isn't over until it's over. You will lose gens. Don't let losing gens result in panic decision making.

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    Great tips!

    I will try to keep these in mind when playing <3


    Hey... hey! Come back here!!!

    I got some questions for you!

  • AvisDeene
    AvisDeene Member Posts: 2,396
    edited October 2020

    I was referring to the toxicity that will come your way from Survivors. But since you mentioned that you've experienced it, and have blocked communication with them, you're good!

    As for Whispers, I find that you need to look as far in front of you as you can while you patrol, so the second it comes on, you can kind of pinpoint the area the Survivor is in. Try using it with the Doctors perk, Monitor and Abuse. It shrinks your terror radius, allowing you to get closer to Survivors before they notice you're there.

    Even if you struggle with it, it will prevent you from wasting time on generators that don't have anyone near them, and it will tell you which gate Survivors are near during endgame. Make sure that you point down when searching behind trees, one thing you have to get used to is your cameras perspective really gives Survivors an edge in the game, and you have to play around it.

    When I play Survivor, many times, I have been able to lose a Killer by running up to a wall, pass it to leave scratch marks in one direction, come back to the wall, crouch behind it at the edge, and wait for the Killer to pass by. As soon as they pass by, I move to the other side of the wall and sneak off in the other direction. I giggle when I seem the check the locker and walk around the obstacle looking for me and I am safely behind a tree. So when ever you come to a wall, or even vault a window, make sure to check if the Survivor is trying to pull a sneaky one on you.

    When facing players with Dead Hard, I recommend that you bait it out. I find that many times, if you just quickly move your camera up then down, they will think you're about to attack. If you're playing Wraith, you can just trick them by ringing your bell once.

    If someone is recently unhooked and they run in your face, count down to 15(or 20, i forget the timer) before hitting them so you don't give them a speed boost since they most likely have Borrowed Time. Then slug them so they can keep the dirt company for a while.

    If you see a flashlight, do your best to pick people up while facing walls, and immediately look up to avoid the blind.


    Finally, don't get too upset or discouraged when gens go flying. The current meta encourages gen rush and make it almost impossible to 3 hook everyone. If you think you have to tunnel or slug, do so, they are legitimate strategies, and not employing them will cause you to not get any hooks against semi-experienced Survivors. I'm not saying do it from the start, but if they throw themselves at you before you could leave the hook, don't feel bad.

  • SoylentPixie
    SoylentPixie Member Posts: 1,192

    Use your knowledge as a survivor. This is one of the best pieces of advice i was given when i started to learn how to play killer, and it can be invaluable if you don't let the early game frustration get to you. If you have spent enough time playing as a survivor, you already know most of the areas a survivor will hide in if they hear the killer coming or lose you at a chase, It isn't 100% infallible and I'm not saying just play a guessing game using your survivor knowledge, but if you add what you know as a survivor, to the tools you are using as a killer, it's surprisingly effective.

    As for hag. Some will say to use a camping strategy which...i guess works sometimes but not always. The trick here is again, use your survivor knowledge. Got a guy hooked? Yeah okay you could trap under the hook and waste their time, but you could also trap their exit routes. Ask yourself where you would run to when you thought you had reached outside of the 'trap zone' after a rescue. Most people playing against a hag will assume you trapped the hook anyway and crouch and if they don't crouch, their just going to run to a safe spot, which suddenly isn't safe anymore.

    Use her addons wisely. I'm terrible at remembering the name for addons, but there is one that allows you to draw traps faster. Now some might find this useless, but if you're in a never ending loop, quickly place a trap and they will either run into it, or run away from the loop. You can also fake draw too. Quite a few times players have seen my Twiglet bend down and have legged it before the trap can even be placed.

    If you can herd the survivors into a 3 Gen with hag....that's an ouchie situation for them.

    You don't have to camp as hag. Sure it might be an easier strategy, but its pretty agreed upon that this is an unfun match all around and it isn't necessary to secure a win.

    I admit i haven't played killer in a good while so i can barely remember the perks i used on her, but Monitor and Abuse was always a firm favorite. There are much better hag players than me out there, but using the above strategies, i found i came out on top more than i lost.

    Another tip, if you have a group of friends, spend some time in KYF with them. It's a low pressure way to test your skills with none of the toxicity or frustration you might get when playing against nameless avatars.

    Hope something in this babble is remotely useful to you.

  • Weeb_H_Toast
    Weeb_H_Toast Member Posts: 195

    this one

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340
  • DBD78
    DBD78 Member Posts: 3,473

    So you play Hag that is nice. I have a build for you that makes survivors DC a lot 😁

    Corrupt (For set up, it's a must on Hag)

    Agitation (Basement Hag yeah survivors will have a bad time)

    Franklins (Slap survivor, trap item instantly) Yeah and they often go back injured for the item..here is were they DC a lot.

    NOED (If and a big IF survivors still stand) you can protect totem with traps, perhaps trap exit gates when there is one gen left.

    If they won't bring items switch Franklins for Monitor or STBFL. Have fun! (survivors won't lol) 😀

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    I appreciate this!

    Me and Lisa are gearing up as we speak:

    💜

    Thank you!!

  • Slashstreetboy
    Slashstreetboy Member Posts: 1,811

    Check out Otzdarvas "Good and reliable Builds for every Killer" video as well as his "Essential knowledge for Killers". Also, check out Scottjunds guide on how to run tiles as Killer.

  • Unicorn
    Unicorn Member Posts: 2,340

    It went well 💜 I had risky Survivors all night though. Not sure if I did well or they were just really altruistic, which from what I’ve researched is not a good tactic against Hag.

  • Woot1234
    Woot1234 Member Posts: 139

    I tend to consistently run Spies from the Shadows. I can't tell you how many times it revealed a survivor while patrolling and it's been clutch in many chases when I lose LOS. And it's a general killer perk.


    I hardly see others running it though...

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275

    I would work Whispers in there. It's a common perk that is available to all killers, and it is really helpful for finding people. Pop and BBQ are my two other go-to perks, and either Discordance or Tinkerer is my usual fourth perk on a general build.

  • Kolonite
    Kolonite Member Posts: 1,346

    If you want easy wins just use Fire Up

  • Woot1234
    Woot1234 Member Posts: 139

    I never understood the preference of Whispers over Spies from the Shadows. Whispers is nice as you don't need crows and can be good to find the last survivor urban evading around the map during EGC. But you don't know where the person is outside of the general area. Crows, on the other hand reveals direction.

  • SilentPill
    SilentPill Member Posts: 1,302

    If you are familiar with the maps you can use whispers to triangulate someone’s position. Especially if you have used it for a while.

    Not all maps have ample crows and there’s people who crouch around or run calm spirit. Spies won’t let you know if people are just tapping gens or if there’s actually people still in the area working on them.

    I think whispers is pretty much better in every way unless it’s a 2 story map. It means you are always patrolling the right areas.

  • FFirebrandd
    FFirebrandd Member Posts: 2,446
    edited January 2021


    Whispers is more reliable. Either there is a Survivor within 32m of you or not. There's no ambiguity. There's no reliance on Crow spawn RNG, and there's no requirement for a Survivor to move and spook a crow. Also one of the more underrated things about Whispers... if it is off, you know with 100% certainty that you need to be elsewhere, unless you have a really good reason for being where you are.

    Edit: Now for Unicorn in particular, Spies might be better. Unicorn mentioned that they have trouble with losing Survivors mid chase. One thing that Spies can tell you that Whispers can't is if a Survivor left a tile or not while you couldn't see them. However I'd be tempted to say that I'm All Ears is better for that than Spies is.

  • Rydog
    Rydog Member Posts: 3,275
    edited January 2021

    Pretty much what @SilentPill said. The thing about Whispers is that it also tells you, reliably, where survivors AREN'T. So, you can run in the general proximity of a generator without going up to check it, know definitively that no one is in the area, and move on to the next generator. It makes your sweeps more efficient. And for slower-moving killers like Huntress especially, that can be a big boon. Also, if there's one survivor left, Whispers is often a death sentence because it tells you when they are or aren't going for a specific door. And it helps with locker guesswork, when you know there is a survivor in the area (because a gen has just been worked on or whatever).

    I do think Spies from the Shadows is a very underrated perk, but not quite as reliable (and some maps just don't have as many crows).