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Tunnelers, I call upon thee.
Just out of curiosity, why do some of you tunnel?? I’ve only gotten to play a few matches in the last few days, but getting tunneled every other game. Am I too easy a target?? Too annoying?? Wrong place wrong time?? I know sometimes I get farmed and killers come back, but it’s always to chase me down again. I don’t play that poorly, but usually panic if I’m farmed without BT and have to get chased right after. I just try to make the most out of my ######### situation.
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I aint a tunneler, but the reason i could tunnel someonendown would be the following:
-has OoO/did t-bag me or clicky me a lot of time
-tried to block me with Borrowed time when i got for his mate (15 secs aint that long and ill gladly eat your DS and get you in a bad spot then)
-bully squads or blendettes van also be a reason for a lot of people
-you barely hooked and gens are flying
Or simply...yeah wrong place/time as i searches the rescuer but he doesnt show up and i only find the person i just hooked....gotta work on that pressure
Of course i try not to tunnel, but sometimes its just the only thing you wanna do depending what you see, like many will tunnel the OoO
Pr spme people just tunnel to annoy others thats how it saddly goes...
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I have found that intentionally tunneling someone to get rid of their DS is valuable if they can be downed quickly. If the only injured player is the recently unhooked one and they are in a fairly unsafe spot, I'll chase them. If the unhooked survivor is the only person I see, I'm not going out of my way to avoid them.
That's generally why killers tunnel. If you want to avoid being tunneled, make sure you bring an exhaustion perk and learn correct pathing so that you can get to a good tile (or set of tiles). Doing that will make tunneling you too costly, and you will find that smart killers will opt to split their pressure instead of chasing you.
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What is tunneling in your opinion?
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If I think the person in question is a bit derpy and can be quickly and easily downed, I'll slug to either force someone to pick them up or eat their Unbreakable while I chase their rescuer. If nobody ever picks them up (their bleed out bar starts to run out) I'll hook them again/give Hatch if everyone else is dead.
If they have OoO and have non Rank 20 teammates, I have to tunnel them - they're just too dangerous to be left alive.
If they have a Key and gens are close to all getting done I have to tunnel them - again too dangerous to be left alive.
If they sandbagged another Survivor I will make sure they die and the sandbag victim lives.
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Nice list. I’m never toxic, or at least am not if the killer isn’t. I don’t take op perks except DH if that counts. I just don’t know what I’m doing wrong. I’ll okay normal, and it’s not even like long chases and the others will do about the same. I just keep getting tunneled right off of first hook and don’t get to play much after. And it’s always aggressive. Like, just bolting back after a save. Like they don’t want me to play this match.
I don’t use DS, but I always feel like I should. Just never gets use when I run it. I do run to tiles and try my best, but usually I’m panicking at this point. So very easy to mind game me. I take DH, but just for fixing mistakes or getting that little extra distance.
I just don’t appreciate getting unhooked and then being chased immediately. I guess just that. Being chased after getting unhooked. Like, not having time to do anything else but run for your life.
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Very kind. Idk. Just seems like they don’t want me in the game anymore. I don’t play better or worse than anyone except when I’m actually getting tunneled bc I panick. I try to be respectful and use nonmeta perks or items but I just keep getting kicked from these games. I’m usually just tunneled out mid game, 2-3 gens and everyone already been hooked or one person hasn’t. Idk. Maybe it’s just misfortune. Currently running blight Claud with shorts.
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Well, it depends. What do you consider "tunneling"?
My definition of tunneling is essentially throwing the game to get rid of one person at all costs, eating their DS, attacking their BT, just chasing them relentlessly until they're dead.
But according to some survivors I've seen, "tunneling" is any time they're attacked at all after they've been hooked, without someone else going on the hook first. And sometimes even if someone else already went on the hook. Even if they're the only person I can find.
Although, there are a few times I might tunnel intentionally:
- You're running OoO and I suspect you're in a SWF, which becomes obvious very quickly
- You're being exceptionally obnoxious
- I'm losing badly and need a way to immediately and substantially increase my pressure to prevent a total loss and to stall the game, generally at this point your team has several gens done so I know you've already got points and likely a pip so I don't feel quite as bad, but I'd still prefer to avoid it
- It's the EGC and I have to choose someone to die, because there's no time to play nice once all the gens are done
- I forgot who was recently on the hook and am swinging into a pile of survivors
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I'm sorry things are going poorly for you; solo queue frankly sucks.
You could bring DS, Unbreakable, and etc., play like a god and still get killed by your own team. I know I've been handed wins against a really good Survivor or two just because their teammates were bad.
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I'm a Killer Main, it's tough for me to give Survivor advice, but I'd suggest running whatever perks you want.
If you don't wanna run meta perks, don't. But also don't be afraid to run them just because they might annoy certain players.
I think acting respectfully in-game and in post game chat speaks a lot louder than what perks you use. I never look at someone's perks, see meta stuff, and think "What a jerk".
Additionally, try to find fun in things besides pipping or Escaping. You can't control whether you do either of those, so try to find something else to gauge victory by.
I know that's easier said than done, but there are people who play Killer and will do their utmost to kill people for having a funny name or playing a specific Survivor.
Being able to let that kind of stuff slide off you instead of bugging you will help a lot.
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I'm sorry if none of this helps; I hope you have better and more enjoyable future matches.
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If the survivors only have 2 gens left its time to get rid of some pressure, I usually end up having 1 or 2 survivors on death phase hook by that time
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>>I just don’t appreciate getting unhooked and then being chased immediately. I guess just that. Being chased after getting unhooked. Like, not having time to do anything else but run for your life.
Pretty much correct definition. But are you sure it happens every game? Like EVERY game? For me it happens once in dozen of games. So I'm really curious.
If it happen to you every game, you are really unlucky. BT is free meta perk which can be found in every game, which often discourage killer to chase you. Or you often doing something to piss off the killer. Like teabagging, pointing or doing any objectives in terror radius instead of run away.
Most of the games killers ignore unhooked person considering he has borrowed time. If killer is nearby, rescuer is often injured, so it's more convinient to exchange survivors, because rescuer 99.99% doesn't have DS or Endurance status effect. Chasing you after exchange is not tunneling, because you got a lot of time to gain distance or get to safe area. If you tried to hide for this time in 5 meters away from hook, don't blame killer for tunneling. Blame yourself for underestimating killer. Often killers not even near the hook. Most of the time survivors blame killers for tunneling even if they had all the time in the world to heal and run away, which is not tunneling anymore.
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Number 5) happens to me a lot... especially if there's more then one of the same survivor being played with similar cosmetics equipped
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I forgot one important detail! My survivor build often include Sprint burst which is true antitunneling perk. Once you got unhooked you run with 150% speed for 3 seconds. It makes you such unappealing target that any killer never bother tunneling you. Unless you run into a trap or into a wall. But it can't happen every game, right?
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I get called out for tunneling a lot, but it's pretty much always by people that have no idea what tunneling is (getting tunnel vision). That being said, if someone abuses DS (going for unhooks, locker DS, gen in my face, etc.) then they are in for a hell of a time. Specifically abusing it, though - I blame the game for the rest and act accordingly, even the classic immortality combo.
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First of all #5 is not intentional. Second it is not tunneling, because you gave survivors time to breath. You can't hook survivors in correct order (1234-1234-1234) because it's literally impossible and inneffective. Sometimes you hook same person because you found him twice in a row. Not because you tunnel him off hook. You can tell the difference.
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Playing killer a lot, I can tell you this.. sometimes what the survivors perceive as tunneling is merely bad luck. Or their own misplays. Some examples:
- I hook someone, when they are unhooked and I find the person and their buddy I go after the buddy instead of the one I hooked. Now supposed I lose that guy after a minute, but the first one runs into me.. I down him and hook him again. Tunneling? No. Bad luck? Yes. Was I accused of tunneling because of this? Sure. :)
- I hook someone who gets unhooked. I start to chase the person who unhooked them, however the moment I turn my back, the first guy starts repairing the generator as if I was not even there. I go back, down him and hook him again before I resume my original chase. Was I tunneling? Hardly.. I was protecting assets. Is it my fault that the survivor did not take the chance to run away? No. Was I accused of tunneling still? Sure. :)
Then again, it sometimes really is tunneling on the why:
- eliminating at least one player as fast as you can is actually increasing the pressure on the survivors. Letting the one who is most likely to die (the one you already hooked once) go is actually increasing your odds of all survivors escaping, so it is counter intuitive as a tactic for killers.
- In some cases, a survivor might have a perk that you REALLY do not want to deal with, esp. in the endgame and want to get them out of the game ASAP
Really the first one is enough for me personally. If I were playing killer to win all the time, to rank up, I would most certainly go for the fastest kills possible and tunnel like there is no tomorrow.
Then again, I am not playing to win, but to have fun, so for me, it is fine to leave people run away and do their little things.. it just means I can chase them more, which is the fun part in my game. Still, I do not blame killers who tunnel me. When I play with friends, I consider that the price of going with a premade team.. I might end up being the first one to die if I am unlucky. Roll of the dice really.
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DS is an incredibly powerful perk if you decide to utilize its minute of immortality, but I find it very boring to use (and a bit unfair at times). Instead, I've been bringing a different exhaustion perk like Blood Pact so that I can be sure that an obsession spawns in each match. This has pretty much the same effect most of the time since a lot of killers try to play around DS even when it's not in anyone's kit.
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Sometimes it's fun to tunnel or I like to go ahead and get the weakest link out of the way.
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DH is fine imo
Also.think about it that way: many killers that are chasing survivors for a long time(casting many gens to fly) will tunnel this survivor put of..."pride" if you see what i mean
"I chased you all day long, gonna kill you or my honor will be down"
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If tunneling is chasing you until you're on the hook, then i tunnel.
Why? I love carrying "hook them"-based Perks: Pop Goes The Weasel, Make Your Choice, Barbecue & Chili, Hex: Devour Hope, you name it.
Not Monstrous Shrine though, get outta here.
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Yeah, I try not to give them a reason to tunnel me. Only thing I can think of is doing gens in their face but that’s only bc they’re stuck doing something or in an animation and that shits about to blow. Gotta get it before it regresses.
honestly, just trying to get some more content than just being chased out of the game. Like, I’m not always chased first but I feel like I get a huge target after I am chased. I’m not the best looper but I got some tricks up my sleeve. I’d hope that’s enough to ward them off but they just keep wanting me. It’s always after my first hook. It’s my mates sometimes that farm but I swear they could’ve found someone in the time and they come back for me. Like, me. Ignoring rescuer. Like, I wouldn’t mind if it wasn’t a lot but I barely play an hour and a half a day if I get a chance. I want to at least feel the thrill a bit and not just be in the thick of it 24/7.
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If you are in lower ranks: when I started playing, I used to tunnel without knowing it was a bad thing, because I used to see an injured person and a healthy one. Naturally I picked the injured (easier target). I also didn't memorize who was the hooked one. (Sorry).
Now if you are in red ranks, there is also the strategic point of view: remove one player of the game as soon as possible. People may like it or not, but even Otz was doing this on his stream when he was trying to get the 50 win streak with a weak killer (clown).
I play DbD for fun (don't care about winning or losing). So I always avoid doing anything that removes the fun of the opposite side or teammates.
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5 for me too, I can't keep guessing who's who especially against 3/4 of the same character. Sometimes the person I've just hooked runs straight into me so am I supposed to not hit them?
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If you are instantly being chased after a hook and unable to do anything than run... shouldn't you be asking why survivors don't learn how to safely unhook you instead?
If your team serves you up on a silver platter why would the killer say no... Have you tried playing killer, because you would be surprised how often people unhook super unsafe and expect the killer to not jump on the opportunity they present them...
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Theres 2 times when i personally tunnel someone :
-No running DS ,and they are wannabes .
-If the x is on death hook to apply some pressure by -1 player.
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OoO is an insta- tunnel for me. That person will not know peace, because peace was never an option with OoO.
Also someone who uses the threat of DS to just do a gen in my face. I'll eat the DS, then tunnel them. Don't disrespect me like that, at least pretend that I'm dangerous...
Other than that I'll definitely hit a survivor who was recently unhooked, if they're convenient, and if they go down its a 50/50 for if I slug them or try to hook.
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I dunno
The game is pretty simple, survivors objective is to do gens
Killers objective is to put people on hooks.
how you do those is up to you.
both sides tunnel, survivors tunnel gens and killers tunnel survivors.
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I don't want to tunnel, but sometimes I have too in some case. Because even though I've been hurting most of the players and doing what I can to keep these gens from flying, the gens still fly.
I only try to tunnel if the player is acting cocky and thinking they're tough shite, or mostly when I use it is at 2 and a half gens done and lower. (So around 3 when the third is nearly done)
If nobody is dead and there are around 2 gens left, I need to apply better pressure and nothing applies it better than slugging and killing some survivors off.
I know it's a bit of a ######### move, but when you leave me with only one choice what else am I supposed to do? Let you win, let you guys have this and just sit there?
I'm trying to recall, wasn't this a game about killers trying to kill survivors and survivors trying to survive?
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Best analogy I have heard today. Thank you.
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I used to play by the unwritten rules in the survivors handbook for years. It wasn't until this halloween 'event' that I decided I'd start entertaining myself by tunneling the first person I hook in every match.
Even though it's caused me to 4k less, my bps stay pretty much the same and I'm far more entertained then if I played the match straight.
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Teabag, click your flashlight, follow me to prevent me from doing my objectives, hover around me body-blocking or be an obviously mismatched higher-skill player trying to show off and I'm gonna spend every wasted minute making sure your round is as ######### as possible for trying to ruin my round- I will tunnel and facecamp while your team gets every gen and you get the bare minimum
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On the topic of tunneling for the DS, the great irony of DS, is that it gets more powerful as the game progresses and pressure becomes more valuable, so tunneling it out early when you have time is an effective strategy against it.
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Honestly its a lot better to chase the same 2 survivor then all survivor one after another. You have more pressure if you have 6 hook and 1 death then 7 or 8 hook with no death
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At this point I'll down that survivor and if DS is active oh well... Guess who's dying now
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I'll tunnel sometimes but never hard tunnel. Like I'll chase after the person who just got unhooked, that way I only have to worry about 3 survivors, but if someone wants to take a protection hit I'll gladly take all the pressure I can get. Sometimes as survivor too, I'll get mad at something the killer did (camp, tunnel, etc) but I've done the exact same things when playing killer
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One of the biggest reasons I tunnel someone is if their teammate unhooks them when I'm right there because I usually don't want to give the protection hit. Even then I try not to punish the person who was unhooked in that situation by hard tunneling them, usually I'll do second hook and go for someone else since ik how much that can suck as survivor, esp since I'm playing at rank 15 usually. In games where I'm gen rushed I admittedly try to get at least one guaranteed kill and that means tunneling someone. I only aggressively tunnel if someone's being genuinely obnoxious.
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Playing as hag, I get this a bit, not intentionally tunneling, traps don't discriminate, I mean if you run off the hook and set off a trap, I'm gonna teleport and come out swinging.
(Some) intentional tunneling would be, clickers, t baggers, key holders.
Mostly bad luck. If I see your blood pools, hear your moans, or see your scratch marks, I'll just go after you.
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Sometimes its the most efficient option to focus a player down, BHVR should adjust some perks to prevent early unhookings by greedy unhookers. But they wont because that would strengthen Campers. So its up to Survivors to not give killers this opportunity.
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I see alot of people saying if they run OoO they'll tunnel them but if I'm running object it's because I want to be tunneled all game , I'll only tunnel if they farm in front of me and I've decided to go on a slugfest with infectious fright nurse because then I have multiple survivors off gens in my face against a killer who can ignore every bit of safety and make you pay for every mistake you make
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