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Why do you gen rush?
Is it because you aren't competent enough in your own skills that you just want out as fast as possible because you aren't able to have an interesting match? Or is it because you want to flex your 2 inches by going "He he, gen go vroom"
I honestly don't understand the point of just making a match as short as possible. Like can you be any more boring of a player? Make interesting plays and have good chases. You're all complaining about how boring it is to hold one button the whole game but you sure seem content to do it anyways, make up your minds.
Edit: Good to know most of this community Hasn't changed since I first started playing. Felt like I was getting dumber reading most of these since you all are just a hive mind saying the same thing over and over again. I asked the question "Why do you gen rush". I asked this instead of "why do you rush the game to end" because I mainly play killer and I DON'T PLAY with moris and everything to kill the survivors as fast as possible. Why? because I enjoy the game, I don't sweat my balls off for wins Like a large sum of this community. But you all are just too blinded by "KiLlEr JuSt BaD aT gAmE"
Good day
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When I genrush it’s because I don’t trust my solo teammates to do generators. The average chase is much shorter when I play solo, so there’s no time to lose.
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Because solo queue is a tragedy and a joke, my teammates usually do nothing and die, so genrushing is the only thing that helps you win in this unbalanced game for solo's
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Dunno bout swf, but in solo the match could turn at the drop of a hat and having as many gens done before the event horizon of "Evrabuddy is dyin" is the difference between a few escapes or a wipe.
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Popping nearly two gens in the first couple minutes. What I get from that is "We wAnT oUt Of dA MaTcH NoW" Like seriously how is it any fun. I can handle rushers relatively well but it's the most boring brain dead game I could imagine. Chase this person, down them, gen pops. Chase next person, down them just as quickly as the first, 2 gens pop. Rinse and repeat. I don't see how it is fun having little to no interaction aside from sticking to gens like a fly on a cow pie. It isn't a tournament.
Edit: In short, people trying to make the game last less than 5 minutes.
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That's actually not too far off from a match I just had. Sad thing is it gets more common the better your rank is. I've been noticing it heavily since I passed rank 10.
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This is a strange question. The survivors' task is to escape. The killer's job is to kill the survivors.
Survivors are not for the killer's fun and the killer is not for the survivors' fun.
I think the problem is on both sides, for their purposes. Winning does not equal a high rating. This is why we have players who play to win and who play for rating.
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How on earth could you see nearly 2 gens popping in the first few mins as gen rushing. It takes 80 seconds to do a gen. You aren't describing some provethyself toolbox gamers. You are just playing against normal players that hold m1 because they have nothing better to do.
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If survivors want to do their objective efficiently then so be it. I see killers slugging at 5 gens and hard tunnelling people out of the game way more than i see actual "genrushing". As for it being boring, I'll leave you with an old killer main quote "its not my responsibilty to look after anyone elses fun".
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You sound like you get looped by a singluar survivor for 10 minutes straight and can't catch them, and then complain about other survivors simply doing generators because you don't know how to manage time properly. Try actually defending the gens sometime. Enough said.
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When i genrush it's usually because the killer isn't stopping me.
That's probably true for everybody
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I know when to cut my loses in a chase. I'm not new, and I'm not boosted. I've been playing since Doctor released so I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing. Haven't been playing recently given how garbage optimization has been on console until recently. So don't try saying "JuSt DeFeNd GeNs". Not to mention assuming things with little to no proof makes you look foolish, try again.
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I think the first three commenters on this post would half disagree.
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i haven't seen someone complain on the forums about genrushing in a fat minute.
Genrush rarely happens anyways, if it really tells you "I want to get out asap" then you are really being dense about this topic
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Because killers camp and tunnel hard most matches and I can't trust a random to do the job (since they sometimes are not doing any gens, somebody have to do it at full efficiency).
At least if I can make sure 3 gens are done when there are 2 people left, me and my teammates have better chances of escaping.
I try to have fun in the game... I usually don't even run exhaustion perks in order to run the build I like, but then I can only hold a chase for so long (more of a reason not to sleep on gen duty). And I don't run DS, so if I'm tunneled, what am I supposed to do?
I can assure that for most of the best moments I had in this game I didn't even survive the match, but I had a good opportunity to use my silly perks. It comes at a cost and so I have to play somewhat more safe, because it seems for killers fun means to achieve 4k at all costs, even if it means slugging everybody, tunneling everyone and facecamping.
But if I notice the killer isn't all out for blood, I may play a little... it's just not happening these days.
Besides, if I have missions of escaping for a daily or archive challenge... well, I wanna survive.
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Ah so holding the same button the whole match counts as boring and unfun for survivors (Even though you seem to have no problem doing so) But getting genrushed by a group that wants to be in a tournament and having everything stacked against you can't be called boring for killer. WOW
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Finally a person who hasn't said "Just do this" or "We aren't supposed to babysit the other side" and actually answered the question civilly.
Thank you
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I dont wanna be in a game where the killer wont bother interacting with me. Either chase me or I will do gens and go next
I even run OOO sometimes but majority of the killers will ignore me cause they are not dumb enough to chase an object player
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I genrush when the Killer brings a mori, camps or is one of the Killers that I dont want to face like Spirit or Freddy.
I genrush when the Killer doesnt want anyone but himself to have fun
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Erm... what are survivors supposed to do if not gens??
Do you expect them to purposefully get in a chase?
Do you expect them to just stand and watch another survivor doing a gen because "oh, better not do this gen too quickly in case the killer gets upset"?
It's the killer's job to prevent survivors doing gens. If you fail to do that in a game then you got outplayed. Simple as that.
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Well that sounds like a normal game to me unless you run corrupt, ruin undying combo
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Because devs won't add additional objectives.
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What is exactly up with the people bashing survivors for „only holding m1“, which doesn’t equal gen rushing at all.. you don’t have to like or play survivor gameplay, but why feel the need to be so condescending?
it’s not like killer gameplay is THAT much more innovative or engaging, just hold direction keys and click m1/m2 in the Right Moment. And survivors also have chases, so no one literally „holds m1“ all match at all..
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When you spawn into a match, you have no idea what kind of killer you’ll get. It could be a Pig with a meme build who wants to get some scares, or it could be an Insidious basement build Bubba. It could be Iri Head Huntress, or someone with 6000 hours in Nurse, or it could be a rank 15 with a level 10 Wraith with two perks. But you don’t know.
So you have to assume that the killer will try to kill you and will be good at it, because if you assume they’ll be bad and you get a good killer everyone will die. I’d rather do gens really fast and then have breathing room to go do totems and stuff, than waste time at the start and doom my team.
You also don’t know what your teammates will be like if you’re in solo queue, so you have to do the opposite of what I said above and assume that your team will be really bad and require carrying. It’s not like solo players set out to end the match as fast as possible, but if three of you are on separate gens it’s not like you know that. It just works out that way sometimes.
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Well I don't go into games with the intention of smashing out gens as fast as I can and if they're flying I might chill out and go totem hunting or loot a chest - but sometimes there isn't much else to do, and also I want my share of objective points
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When I slam gens it's because I have no idea what's going through my teams head and I don't want to risk it being "someone else will do these."
Actual genrush squads though? The ones that bring in all the goodies and leave people on hooks to finish gens? Not super sure, tbh. I mean, sure, go ahead, genrush me. Not super impressive. It's like if I facecamped into NOED. It's a thing I can do to secure 2 kills, but it's not exactly impressive.
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First of all, I hate to break it to you but the vast majority of players at red ranks are no better at the game than people at a higher rank. I'm thinking about how I want to phrase what I say, but I think it boils down to this. Completing generators is the survivors' goal. Yes, as you say it's boring when they do the gens too quick, but I'm not exactly sure what else you expect. I would imagine that if you are experiencing the situation you described of losing 3 gens after a first chase, unfortunately that is partially your own fault. I can say this because this happens to me maybe 1/10 matches, and in that match I know I have messed up. Any top killer will tell you not to commit to chases too long, and if you have this issue that will help you out. I would also recommend corrupt intervention.
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You practically ask why survivors do their only objective. You have to ask devs why people "gen rush".
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Killer main here. The answer to your question: its their objective to do gens... How can you be mad? If you have a gen control perk like discordance or tinkerer, you should be able to contest the rush better
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Played a Wraith game last night just to get the daily done. I don't have many perks on him so I figured I'd lose. The survivors brought 3 party streamers so I figured it was a swf, but we'd all get a lot of points so whatever. Gens went flying as expected and only managed to get one sacrifice at the end. Only in the post-game screen did I see they all brought 3 brand-new-parts. And I just laughed, that's got to be the equivalent of bringing red addons and a red mori. Should've brought noed! :)
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What's the difference between gen-rushing and doing the objective?
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Because I'm not getting chased? If someone isn't in a chase, why would they not be doing gens? If it's a SWF, I guess the most ideal team would be 1 for chase, 2 for gens, 1 for totems/unhooks.
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I loathe the term gen rush, it's the only objective aside from bones. Why do killers hook rush? Anytime I see an injured survivor I heal rush the ######### out of them. I also like chest rushing with ace in the hole in the hopes of getting a nice item with add-on. Then, when all generators are powered, I like to exit gate rush to open the doors as quickly as possible.
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Because the longer the survivors take to do gens, the more chances the Killer has to sacrifice them all? Are you expecting them to avoid their main objective and purposefuly provide good opportunities for the Killer to kill the entire team?
You're questioning why survivors are doing their main objective in a game where every seconds counts. Blame/hate the game, not the player.
So in the actual state of the game, I'll quote what musefan said above: "It's the killer's job to prevent survivors doing gens. If you fail to do that in a game then you got outplayed. Simple as that."
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How dare you doing your only objective in the game?!
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Gen rush does not exist. Killers just get used to bad survivors who don't do gens. Most killers on the roster aren't viable against good players. 2 or 3 gens should pop in the first few minutes. The survivors aren't doing their job if that isn't happening. A lot of players complain about a supposed gen rush, but I wonder why it isn't happening every game if I'm playing Clown/Myers/Pig/etc., and I get annoyed when I 4k at 4 gens as Trapper with Corrupt as my only slowdown at rank 1.
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I would also add the point that with survivor stealth being all but dead because of all the killer aura reading perks and add-ons, there is no incentive to take the extra time to stealthily move around the map.
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I’m worried that my team will fall apart if I don’t.
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"How is it any fun"? It isn't. But if you're not getting people off gens and are committing to chases you shouldn't be what the hell do you want survivors to do in the meantime? Sit around and watch you chase someone and do nothing? If they're not being chased they're gonna be working on a gen, it's up to you to stop that, or to make them work on gens that are less important to you i.e on the outskirts of the map. Also 2 gens popping at the start of the match is normal.
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You pretty much nailed it. Unless you're in a tournament, or you're facing a sweat squad gen rushing doesn't exist. Actual gen-rushing is leaving survivors to die while you hammer out the objective, and you just want to get out of the game as fast as possible. And you almost never run into teams like this. I also find it a lot more fun and exciting when gens are going by at a slightly faster rate than I'm winning chases. It means I have to actually rethink my strategy and I'm playing against people who might actually be good. Close matches are always so much more fun than ones where you just stomp everyone in 60 seconds.
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If I'm not doing something else, I'll be on a generator. I like interacting with the killer + other survivors because you're right, doing gens isn't exactly thrilling gameplay. But they do need to be done, and I'm not gonna chase the killer around or not do a generator when I'm not needed for something else.
I don't find it fun to go all "optimal" gens before friends and as a result don't do any of that though. But I do run Kindred 24/7 so I'm sorta immune to the "whole team goes for the save at the same time" thing, no point trying to run to the hook from the other side of the map when someone's already right next to it waiting for an opening to save.
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Killers have directly caused genrushing to be meta. They can look directly in the camera with a very guilty face. The devs have allowed it to happen through a series of survivor nerfs and killer buffs that allow survivors to go down very quickly and for survivor objectives to be unfairly reset. The recent chapter that introduced a completely and totally busted slowgen aura perk. I've played the game enough to know that the only possible way to beat a decent killer loaded to the gills with perks is through a 4man coordinated SWF genrush. Even then, there is no guarantee of getting out, that's how broken the game is.
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Sorry for doing my only objective in the game 😔✊🏻
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Because we have nothing else to do if the killer is not chasing us. Please learn how to pressure survivors.
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Have you ever played survivor? They have one job for every round: fixing gens. Even if they pop some bones on the way it only takes 12 seconds to do so before they continue their main and only objective. What are they supposed to do, afk periodically or at some point rush you for a free hit?
Anyway, as a killer your choice in stopping then from doing their objective, and if you are getting "gen rushed" it's your fault for letting survivors do their only task.
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Say what? You exit gate rush? You're supposed to loiter near the gate in case the killer wants to blood warden rush. Survivors doing gens and escaping? So toxic.
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I know everyone is supposed to hold hands at sing Kumbaya at the end, but if the killer missed their opportunity to hit rush, that's on them. At least I don't tbag rush.
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Gen rush does exist, just not in the way the original poster meant. For instance, if three survivors do gens to the extent that a four survivor dies on first hook, that's gen rushing. They're focusing gens in the short term while risking losing the game in the long term because they let someone die that they could have saved.
What the original poster seems to be complaining about, though, is simply survivors doing gens efficiently. Which is silly, why would you expect them not to do gens if you're not chasing them? Also it takes 80 seconds to do a gen solo with no buffs, so obviously unless you are chasing most or all of the survivors right away you can expect two gens to be done in the first two minutes. In fact the first couple of gens are the easiest to finish and games where they aren't finished quickly are basically an indication the survivors playing poorly. Most of the game will be spent fighting over the last two gens, not the first two, since the last couple of gens will be the easiest for the killer to defend and by then they probably have someone on hook or hopefully dead most of the game.
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While I think you're just kind of describing solo players trying their hardest to escape before their bad teammates (or presumed bad, you can never presume good teammates in solo) I do kind of have this issue when I see 2+ bloody party strangers. Now I don't want to farm with you or anything, but if we've got multiple streamers going I tend to try and make sure each survivor makes it until at least 3-4 gens are done before I try to actually kill anybody.
But even in these cases, gens will pop pretty dang quick if I'm not keeping the pressure high. Neither side has to throw the match or resort to farming to ensure good points when big offerings are on the line!
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Because....
I have a challenge to finish multiple gens in one match.
The killer is just chasing one person and ignoring gens.
Killer is afk.
I want to get the one or two blighted gens done before the randoms get the reg gens done.
I've already cleared 5 totems.
Killer is camping.
I have challenge to get multiple gens done with another survivor.
The killer brought a mori.
Killer isn't wasting any time downing/hooking people.
It's Freddy so I'm closing off his possible fast travel locations.
For me to escape I need to complete gens.
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Spike mentality is valid mentality. I judge winning as a Survivor by having 3+ people escape, and if I am playing to win, I am aiming to fix those gens ASAP.
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