You gotta do something about camping/tuneling

So basically your advice on how to solve this guys complaint is only play with an aggressive SWF team, because everyone else can just suffer. Because upping your game as a solo is never going to combat the hard-core tunnels in 3/4 of the games. A little over 2 years and 2000 hours ago I was winning and losing about 50/50, these days my rank is much better and I can play half a dozen games and get out of maybe 1 or 2. I don't think for one minute that my game play skills have somehow grown way worse since I was a new player. Tunneling is a plague on this game and should be dealt with. I don't even think major changes need to take place. I think Borrowed Time should not be a perk bit a base kit item for every survivor, basically making tunneling more difficult with a lower pay-off. It at least gives the survivor a chance to get farther than their feet touching the ground before they are down again.

Bro at the highest level of this game SURVIVOR mains say survivors are too overpowered. Just because people like you are butt hurt that you got outplayed and refuse to balls up and adapt. The sense of entitlement survivor mains are the same kids who got participation awards for coming last. Stop being an underachiever and learn to overcome challenges instead of crying about it. In the state that the game is, a killer main is a very rare thing I can assure you of that and you know what? Maybe thats why you get tunneled and camped, they cant be ######### investing time into getting clapped every game or abused for slaughtering lil brain survivors.

This game has been killer-sided for quite some time, nearly all changes that have occurred over the last year were pro-killer. Survivors have gotten every perk and add-on nerfed into oblivion. Some medkits aren't even good for a single heal, toolboxes are useless, "insta" heal takes 16 seconds (not very insta), most pallets are now unsafe, a bunch of openings have been turned into breakaway doors blocking passages (and survivors have no way to break one, of course).

It is not bad play on the part of the survivor being tunneled, they have no way of out playing a killer standing there to down them again. Tunneling takes no skill it is an easy play for a lazy player. There should be an opportunity for the fresh offhook to move away from the hook. And being able to take one extra hit is not like a game ender, I have had BT plenty of times and just been run down by a determined tunneler. So if they are set on playing super toxic, the option is still there.

What you are probably getting is seasoned players who know the map and the plays. Just because a team is playing cohesively does not mean they are together or talking to each other. Most players who are on here a lot get to know what the next steps should be and execute them. I have had amazing games with total randos because we just worked together to get the stuff done and cover each other without ever being in any kind of verbal contact. I think killers are quick to call people a team when really they are just individually good at this game.

This is exactly the problem with survivors. Some get it, some don't. I have played 4 games today with a friend (party of 2) and I can confidently say that the reason we didnt escape was due to the randos burning crucial pallets around end game generators, opening the doors with a teammate hooked and just general bad play. I honestly don't understand how survivors can expect to win when they squander their resources and back a killer into a play style they find unpleasant.

With 4 of us alive and 1 on hook, they opened the door and left, I died on my first hook. Killer camped hook because why not? He got 2k after my friend attempted a save, heals and easily half the gens were done by us. I died, still got a double PIP and my friend got 1 also. GG to the Oni wp, he prob didnt PIP but he got at least 6 hooks. The fact that the other 2 were botting and probably still PIP'd amazes me while the Oni likely had nothing to show for it.

Ironically its the survivors that dictate the pace of the game, the urgency is on the killer and they are provided no resources other than preying on the flaws of the game and poor play of survivors. I got hooked because I didnt fast vault the window to utilise my Lithe perk. Emphasis on I, it was ME that made the error. I can admit that mistake and due to the timing of the game I paid for it. Funny thing is that I lost nothing, nor did I lose. So what is all the fuss about you sooks.

The problem is you are confusing an "argument" with a "fact." This is the game. The DEV have stated time and time again that camping, tunneling, slugging, and the Mori are part of the game. They have stated that they are valid tactics. I'm not making an argument, I'm simply restating the reality of the game. Facts are used to support an argument. I haven't made one. I offered you advice. I suggest that people who seem to want to scapegoat their problems on the game or other players are missing the forest for the trees.

Remember, the first step is admitting you have a problem. You, for example, in another discussion we had refused to admit even to the "possibility" that your play style might be part of your problem. According to you, you are a perfect player who has no room for improvement. It isn't you that is crazy, it is the rest of the world. Do you see my point? There are games I lose all the time. I don't look for excuses, I look for solutions that "I" can implement. It is a better use of your time.

Otz has a great video on how not to get tilted playing this game; I strongly suggest you (and anyone else having a problem) watch it. Great advice is out there on how to keep your composure and how to get better at this game. Surely you don't compare yourself to Otz? I can understand why you might not think "I" have anything to aid you with, but surely you would admit that Otz, Monto, StalkyBoi, and their lot can give you some pointers that might (just might) help you out?

We all get camped, tunneled, slugged, and the Mori from time to time. It seems to be happening more often because you don't remember the times it doesn't. You fixate on the negative. Consider this:

1. It isn't happening as much as you think, or SAY it is.
2. You do have to accept responsibility that you are part of the equation.
3. It is YOU who are making an argument, not those of us who have accepted the way the game works.

If you want to take some time and be extremely bored, go back through the posts let's say a year or two and count HOW MANY threads there are that sound just like yours and the OP of this one. See if you can find a day that goes by without there being someone sounding like a broken record. The answer is always the same. It isn't going to change.

You are being simple. Its a low level strategy along with the likes of NOED. You have exposed yourself and appear to have plateaued in the tanned ranks.

Low rank players often leave feedback on the game, I have been guilty of this myself only to see how foolish it would have looked to experienced players. Tunneling without good reason is detrimental to the killers time and rank and is only a viable tactic when it is efficient, if you experience this often, you are likely efficient to tunnel. That being said. There is an issue with the game. Killers are too weak and are sometimes forced into this tactic. Will the devs change it? Likely not. They've made their money.

Furthermore, its only toxic for you. And you sooking about not getting your way doesnt help YOU overcome your flaws. Maybe turn off the computer, go outside and gaze upon the world in which you live and ask yourself - why is the rain so toxic for ruining this beautiful sunshine from time to time?

Also this is the lil brain of most survivors (he had a key). No hate, just fact (see screenshot).

"You will, in time, up your game to deal with it and/or get a team of other Survivors who know how to work with you to do so." -Moonshroud. This is the exact quote from the post I referenced, so you did indeed recommend a SWF. I am not putting words in your mouth but referencing your exact statement. And playing toxic/lazy/cheap, although not outright banned, should not be encouraged. The devs should be doing something to discourage it. With all the added features that are pro-killer I think coming down on the lazier plays, like tunneling, is not asking too much.

Do you not understand what a SWF (Survive with Friends) is? You totally suggest he play with others, a SWF, and then tell me you did not say that. Playing with others, not solo, is a SWF. There is no play with others that are stangers, that is just solo. And your rando team mates in matches are a total crap shoot. I have red rank survivors in my matches all the time that can't do anything but hide. I have overly bold ones that just flashlight click everyone till they are dead. Playing with strangers may up your game but because you have to learn to be more self-sufficient.