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What are your thought on the new killer is he/she op or rather weak?

hey you there what are your thoughts on the twins would you like to see a buff/nerf or a other concept for the killer

i find her/him pretty fun to play but the baby should in my opinion have a little less speed but he also should have a heartbeat (around 16m) and buff the baby by making him be able to open lockers and down the survivor or injurd them if they are healthy and i think you should see the baby whenever he is latchet on a survivor this is just my opinion what are your thoughts?

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  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,020

    They are in a really bad state in the PTB, being the weakest killer in the game

    However, Janick already said they are looking into changing Lockers and babysitting for Victor. When this occurs they will be in a perfect state

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    Victor is the power, essentially. And he's too limited. Pounce charges too slow allowing survivors to loop you around small objects. Despite this a single miss can shut you out of your power with no gain for a short time.

    Aswell as that there's the fact that if you hear Victor at all you can hop in a locker making him completely powerless.

    You can't mindgame jungle gyms or loops with Victor and Charlotte as the cooldown on switching back to Charlotte is incredibly long. It's also very easy to tell when Victor is idle or active.

    Then there's the whole babysitting thing where there's no real downside to having Victor on you. Ontop of that even if you do get a down instead of a grab chances are its far away from your position.

    And even if you do down someone, chances are the chase lead them away from Charlotte, so you have to switch back, go through her cooldown and then walk to where they were downed.

    Lots of weaknesses and very few strengths, if any.

  • IronTale
    IronTale Member Posts: 34
    edited November 2020

    Victor moves so fast and can injure super quickly that I'm shocked that people think there weak. You can quite literally run a anti heal build keep everybody injured and steam roll them with Victor if the survivors aren't careful. I honestly find their pros and cons kinda balanced.

  • SilentHillOnDvD
    SilentHillOnDvD Member Posts: 487

    Yea if the survivors are potatoes you can roll them lol I like going against this killer because they are easy to loop and bully

  • IronTale
    IronTale Member Posts: 34


    I think she has a higher skill cap than people think. I hope they leave her alone for the ptb and launch of the dlcc I think she could be a monster with teachables and practice.

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    Doesn't mean jack if theres either a locker nearby or a simple rock. The startup is so high that any object the same height or taller than the survivor can be looped around to deny his pounce.

  • StibbityStabbity
    StibbityStabbity Member Posts: 1,839

    Definitely OP. As it currently stands, it's a good thing they are going to adjust the Twins, because they need a serious nerf.

    5 seconds to transition between the two is just too short. That's only a DS, and we know how weak those are. It should be bumped up to a minimum of 10 seconds.

    While Charlotte has Victor, they should be slowed down to 85%.

    Victor prevents too many things that help Survivors do their objectives. Victor should no longer cause Survivors to not work on gens.

    Victor slows down whoever they are attached to too much by being unsightly. If you think about it, that would scare the Survivor, and make them run faster. Survivors with Victor on them should run at 115% speed.

    Charlotte has too many abilities when she doesn't have Victor around. She should not be able to lunge or break pallets while she doesn't have Victor.

    Victor is too easy to spot on a solo Survivor that is trying to keep Victor from the Killer.

    All of the "bugs" related to this Killer are not bugs, they are features. Please stop complaining about them.


    If you want my actual feelings on this Killer, take literally everything I said and do the opposite.

  • DerZuntor
    DerZuntor Member Posts: 293

    Victor has too much counterplay The Twins need a buff.

  • Crowman
    Crowman Member Posts: 9,524

    Given that the devs have stated they have planned changes they are going to make and we likely won't see those changes until the chapter goes live. I don't see a point in saying she's weak or strong right now.

  • MigrantTheGreat
    MigrantTheGreat Member Posts: 1,379

    I feel that no matter how many buffs they give them, the twins will be weak!

    They lack map pressure! Granted Victor is the map pressure, but you don't want to get into or initiate chases with Victor, not only that Victor is easily punished and he takes too long to pounce!

  • GrimReaperJr1232
    GrimReaperJr1232 Member Posts: 1,711

    Currently? They're the weakest killer in the game.

    However, the issues that are the reason for that are currently being addressed. We'll have to wait and see if that's enough. if they're resolved, they'll probably be... okay.

    That said, many of us slept on Blight when he came out, so maybe the twins will surprise us.

  • SilentHillOnDvD
    SilentHillOnDvD Member Posts: 487

    No Perks work with victor. going inside lockers full counters victor. kidnapping victor makes Charlotte a m1 killer. this killer could have a high skill cap if everything she did was not counterable you want them to not change this killer? What are you rank 14?

  • BubbaMain64
    BubbaMain64 Member Posts: 546

    Honestly I like the idea of having to juggle two killers and being able to pressure two sides of the map at will. Sadly that's not how they usually play. Right now they're only good at proxy camping.

  • IronTale
    IronTale Member Posts: 34
    edited November 2020

    1. Well one you act like rank matters, it doesn't.

    2. You can multi task Victor when survivors are in the locker and can mind game that factor

    3. Lockers are literally Victors counter as he can counter low walled loops,vaults, T walls and small sized map props

    4. This killer can be two places at once and has the ability to proxy and camp extremely hard.

    5. Victor is literally a Beacon telling you survivor locations and has the ability to trap survivors during end game.

    6. Charlotte only wastes 5 seconds during transition thats Freddy's gen teleport time

    7. Victor can be stuffed in small cubbys like walls to play mind games or detect survivors easier as Charlotte.

    But yeah no I think giving her time would be the best option she's only been out since Tuesday nobody can master them in that time.

  • SilentHillOnDvD
    SilentHillOnDvD Member Posts: 487

    Rank actually does matter usually the best players are in red ranks lol no top % player is gonna be in yellow ranks unless they depip but back to victor, you can't mindgame lockers as it literally tells you when they switch back to Charlotte. And even if you use victor as a beacon you're still a m1 killer nobody is scared of Charlotte. Then its the fact of if victor can even get you before you can jump in a locker (which are everywhere) imagine chasing someone across the map with him then they just jump in one like how is this killer good? Wasting all that time for no payoff. This killer makes clown A tier

  • MrPeterPFL
    MrPeterPFL Member Posts: 636

    I really enjoy them, they have huge potential, however, they do need some QoL changes e.g. Charlotte should be able to call Victor back when a survivor has kidnapped him. Transitioning should be a bit quicker etc.

  • IronTale
    IronTale Member Posts: 34

    Trust me I sit in rank 1 lobby rank means nothing, all random ate literally brain dead in some way shape or form doesnt matter what platform. Plus the rank system is pretty broken at the moment and doesn't exist on the ptb. Once again you can mind game lockers and pretend to afk. Ironically the most destructive loops to Victor are 50/50s. Wraith,demogorgan, pig and legion suffer from the same issue clown does and honestly legion and wraith are pretty horrible base kit killers. Clown cqn at least slightly catch up. Your also meant to gang up on a survivor with Charlotte and Victor don't be afraid to make distance but Charlotte a stand by while your Victor. What I'm saying is The Twins aren't op but calling them the weakest killer is a stretch.

  • SilentHillOnDvD
    SilentHillOnDvD Member Posts: 487

    Ok lets agree to disagree then because its like you're not reading what I said