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Killer IS power role except...
Except with those fabled swf you all fear so much. But if you judge the role based on the best of the best you have to take into account the best of the best killers. There is not much you can do when you play an otz or whoever else you watch win for 50+ matches with some of the weirdest killers. I'm not even gonna bother explaining how much I play either role, you've already made up your mind I'm a noob survivor but this needs said. Especially in a forum that is mostly killers complaining that eating one ds can ruin the game. But I do play both roles. It used to not be this way. I remember when bt worked for both players, it used to be rough. They done it though, made the killer the power role. Go ahead down vote me. Prove this forums just a bunch of entitled killers. I though enjoy playing killer now more so than before. Easy wins.
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where does it say killer is the power role?
its a pvp game, neither side should be a power role
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Power role is a bad concept imo. The player(s) who play better are the power role. It’s called a trial for a reason.
Just because you are killer or surviving with friends does not mean you get to auto win.
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I can't tell if this was you trying to prove a point about killer being strong, or you just insulting killer mains.
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no clue but he makes a good point that both roles should be balanced around high level play.
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It's generally not good to back your argument up by saying "anyone who disagrees with me is entitled".
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Otz lobby dodges.
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Deadass?
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There is no power role in this game. Grow up.
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I've been attacked so many times from killer mains here that I simply don't care anymore hypocrites doesn't deserve attention and survivors as we much want to lie ourselves aren't welcomed here and killer mains proved that to me already they can't respect single one opinion coming from survivors because in their book we are all entitled litlle toxic brats
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Well the thing is, it's a 1 vs 4 game, one survivor should not be as powerful as the killer. But all 4 survivors working together should be as powerful as the killer
The killer should be the power role based on the asymmetrical design during a 1 vs 1. But both should be on equal standing in the 1 vs. 4
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Down vote doesn't exist
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For real?
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Power roles aren't a bad thing. At all. You need one when the game is not an equal team. The killer SHOULD be the power role. A lot of killers think being called power role is an insult though because they can't utilize it.
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I posted something similar, people just don't seem to understand that in an asymmetrical game one role is the power role. And then they get mad when you say say as much.
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ok but half of your post history is literally hounding killer mains
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So you are comparing the skill of Otz to the normal player, just because he wins 50 matches in a row doesn't mean that everyone can, someone who plays 8+ hours daily vs someone who plays like 2-3 tops.
Also basically saying "if you don't agree you are entitled" is not the way to go if you want to have an argument.
And yes currently killer is the easiest it has been but before people didn't ran a lot of synergy perks, people played for fun, it was skill vs skill, now it's skill vs perks and basics.
And just like you mentioned, "should" should is not a fact.
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This. There is no power role.
@OldHunterLight almost every player always runs add-ons as killer; Otz's streaks involve playing killers with no add-ons. Yes, there is an argument to be heard that he's a 8k hour killer main, etc, etc, but the fact is that if at the top level of play someone can get 50 wins in a row with no add-ons to make up for the weaknesses in a killer's power, the game's probably a lot more balanced than many of us perceive.
Edit: sorry oldhunter, I think I misunderstood your intiial argument, my mistake. But it more or less responds to OP anyway.
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Ofc u see it that way what else to expect don't you think we just stood up for ourselves? Dont you think we're sick of things? Pls check first page of this general discussion see how many threads there are survivors bashing killers? Zero how there killers bashing survivors threads made just today? Two that I found god knows how many more there is
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I made a thread about removing hook grabs. I like killer, quite a bit, displayed my killer credentials, but I thought that was bad gameplay mechanics. It was forum heresy lol.
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swf are the power role solo are not tho solo have potential to be the power role I seen some good solo.
killers are not the power role only small hand full of killer can handle swf some still need the best perk and add on.
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Wait I'm sorry for my uneducated a** but what are hook grabs? 🙈🙈😂
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I just looked at the top discussions and let's see...
One about how boring Deathslinger is to face
One really stretched out way to say all killer players need to get good
This thread
A complaint about facecamping
A thread claiming survivor is really difficult to play
And for complaints about survivors we have...
One thread asking why Slinger gets so much hate
and your daily DS thread.
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Hmm interesting how you missed "survivor is easy to play" and "survivor mentality loop" threads
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Dude calm down. I looked at the OP's post history and it wasn't bashing killers at all. Doritohead is wrong, but you don't have have to be a [BAD WORD] about it.
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I refreshed and only the looping mentality one is there
but the looping mentality thread isn't complaining about survivors per se, more about how the game is designed.
I did however see a thread complaining about how many killers run NOED
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Well you're right I'm stupid even discussing here
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I can't down vote you due to no option. Both sides whined to the devs and complained about the game. Otz has strategic way of thinking for killers especially when he trapper. That why he win especially when survivors messed up themselves.
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that is in public lobbies where it's very rare to see a swf simply rushing gens and coordinating to the fullest with meta while disregarding blood points or pips. It's well known that rank doesn't equal skill but rather just how well you know how to pip and it shows that you at least know the mechanics against most of the killers.
put him against survivors with equal skill to him which would be the best while they swf and do what i described above. There is very little he can do to win unless he plays high mobility killers or ones that dominate like nurse and spirit and even then against these types of survivors who can play extremely safe he will have a very hard time because they can afford to waste pallets and such since the other survivors are split up doing the gens that will end the game faster. no killer can be at multiple places to stop gens simultaneously not even the twins as only one of them can be controlled.
Also in terms of a power role the killer fits as the killer has the most control in terms of 1v1, all the survivor can do is run the other way and around objects but the killer decides how it's done. in a 4v1 aspect and when the survivor is presented a escape option the killer is weaker but it is still the power role as it has the most influence in the match.
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I agree. I'm not saying killer as power role is a bad thing. And a good swf can sway the game, i admitted to it. Most people don't run the fabled de pip squad. And most popular streamers stream killer because of its role. If a killer gets an advantage though it's just really hard to stop the snowball. Though if survivors get ahead a killer can still get at least two kills, which is what the devs want anyway.
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You know I realized that after I posted. Lol Too used to reddit.
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Well it used to, but then people would farm downvotes and it was really annoying when 1 person would downvote every post someone would make so they just removed it
Just like how people used LOL as a way of saying something was bad
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Yeah remember a long time ago they were active I didn't know why they were removed.
I just know one day I came on here and everything was gone all that was left was the up vote.
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Yeah it was because when they announced Legion and the Legion rework, it got near 100+ LOL's
the Awesome one got removed because it was useless apparently
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Are they gone for good?
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I hope not, I miss LOL alot
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Agree the lol should make a return there needs to be more then just the up vote
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This. I agree with the concept in regards to 4 man Solo Survivor matches, killer is still definitely the power role there. Even in high rank games. But Otz literally plays 8 hours or more a day, every day. It's his job, his livelihood. He's going to be significantly better than most players could ever be simply due to how much time he has in the game.
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and this is something people tend to forget. 1v1ing the killer should eventually end in you going down. That's why I think Bloodlust is a balanced mechanic, even if it rewards bad players. The killer should be 5x as powerful as any 1 survivor, and that's just a fact.
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Power role i believe is a concept from asymetrical games.
Power role would be the side that's stronger but less numerous while the numbers role (forgot the actual term) had teamwork on their side
Ofcourse that concept has become meaningless now and has become just another "OP" cry
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Was a duplicate post.
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I only invite the Otz comparison if killers keep using the fabled swf depip squad as means for their views. They are both just as equally rare. I've encountered depip squads but they are rare and far between especially with crossplay. It's the age of potatoes and I'm harvesting.
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Nobody said power role should be an auto win. But the power role should be more powerful than any one survivor, which is not the case for m1 killers.
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All I know is that, there's only 1 rulebook in this game. It's made by survivors and designed for killers to play in a certain way. if killers don't follow it, they get guilt tripped and shamed.
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