"Sighs" It's a Pyramid Head.

I find PH pretty annoying to go against as well. That being said I have had some pretty long chases against him so there definitely is some counterplay. My gripe with him now is the change they made to his cage. Originally, when he caged you he could see the cage aura across the map. People complained that this allowed him to tunnel so they removed it. But they changed it so that when a survivor gets rescued from the cage there is a loud noise notification, the same as any failed skill check or fast vault. When they did this, tunneling increased 100%. Every time I get caged the PH comes to check out the noise, every time.

I never said she was?

"I can't get guaranteed 4 survivor escapes and teabag into the sunset, so it's a bad killer" is literally all I took from this

I think survivor perks should be looked at more rather than scrutinising killers when talking about balance (which always seems to be the starting point). Perks like DS are used far too much, I find it unfun and boring to play around DS every single match without fail-imagine if NOED was used as much as DS is, there would be uproar

Reading your unspaced rant was pretty unfun to do, but you know I did it so..

Omegalol. I mean, I used to not care for facing PH either before his rework, but ever since, I've loved playing both as and against him. If anything, I think he's pretty healthy for the game because he does have counterplay that's more then holding M1, and it promotes creativity.

I just made an acct to call u soft

I don't think PH can actually put you in a cage unless you been hooked once or you walked through his trail he leaves behind. I have the killer and Ive downed survivors and i couldnt 100% percent send them to my cage. That means most encounters PH most likely will hook you. He is a boring killer but i like the guy. He isnt bad in my opinion compared to leatherface. I just personally cant run away from his frenzy that sometimes lasts way too long cause of add ons. Thats just me. I think the cage is fair for high tier gameplay since suriviors will run those perks 90% of the time.

Killers who tunnel are either in need of securing a kill, trying to piss you off, or, they are actually bad at the game, but if they are bad at the game and managed to down you quickly, well, you might be bad too.

However, if you led that killer on a great long chase, and they decide you have to die, well, take solace in the fact that you've bought your team a fair amount of time and your sacrifice might ensure the escape of the other 3 survivors.

How fun of a choice is to get tormented by an invisible trail,right?

Yep undying/ruin/tinkerer isn't a fun build, that's why Ive rarely used it-I'm sure it'll get nerfed soon enough

Idk what the heck you're talking about as a survivor main myself I love going against Pyramid Head. It's just so exhilarating to run from a killer with that big a weapon that can hit through obstacles and get away with not getting hit.

Listen man, I play Pyramid Head, and trust me, he Is balanced. Keep in kind you have to actually run through his trails for the caging effect to take place. For me, it rarely ever happens.

I see a fair amount of survivors complaining that 2 perks can sometimes get cancelled out if they step in the marinara.

Meanwhile Hex perks, you know, perks that can be straight lost and half of it is RNG that a survivor doesn't spawn touching one exist.

Honestly I don't run into to much trouble against Pyramid Head. The killers I do struggle with I don't even mind much. I still feel that when things go south in my matches as survivor that half of it was "why is noone touching gens!?" Or "please just let me heal you that's my whole gimmick" or "please stop bringing the killer to the one or two gens we are working on" or my favorite "please loop the killer away from the hooked person." All of which I'm not totally guilt free of haha.

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But Pyramid Head has several counters that it hurts

1) His trails only work if you run or walk through it, crouching by will prevent the torment

2) He has massively reduced movement speed when charging RoJ (Slower than survivors), if you get hit by it he would have hit you with M1 anyways

3) His charged attack is very predictable and you get a warning as well, just avoid the warning

4) He counters 2 meta perks...but also prevents himself from using Make Your Choice, Devour Hope, BBQ, etc

5) He is all chase, no map pressure, if you just do generators when not being chased he really can't do much of anything

6) If you get hit by the tip of his ranged attack, that means you were in the range of his ranged attack for more than 2 seconds, so that just means you messed up

7) Dead Hard counters Pyramid Head's entire kit

now look at the killers you said were not as bad as him

Spirit

1) You are playing a game of chance that is heavily sided to her...its only 50/50 if she is not using stridor and you are healthy or you are using Iron Will, vaulting windows quietly will help you get the cards on your hands, but this only works if you are healthy or using iron will

2) While in her HeartBeat, you cannot hear when she is phasing, so you are literally guessing if she faked her phasing or if she is phasing, and please tell me how you can tell she is using her power cause I would love to know

3) Most spirits have an overpriced headset that can probably hear when Crows land, so she will hear your feet, now you are forced to crouch and hope no grass is nearby

Deathslinger

1) Either is gun is loaded and you will have every vault become a death trap or you are watching him reload, good luck knowing when he is about to quickscope you

2) Some deathslingers will spam ads rapidly so you will never know when he is gonna shoot or not, making his zoning potential extremely powerful, oh look another guessing game that you will lose

3) some pallets counter him, other pallets kinda are a death trap for you

However Slinger isn't as bad as Spirit as he is all chase, just like pyramid head, except slinger is slower than pyramid and Spirit's ability makes her go pretty fast

You and others misread what I said. I'm saying that there would be no point to killers all being basically the same in response to OP. I'm not saying that's how it actually is now.

He is implying that different = unhealthy. He seems to not want killers that force survivors to diverge from the usual gameplay. What is the problem with killers having different counterplay to the usual looping? The 3 killers he gave as examples show this. You can't simply loop them like you would wraith because you would get hit with something. This does not make them too strong it makes them different. This variety is needed.