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Avoiding stress as killer this weekend

Because this game is fun and suspenseful for survivors and a sweat fest for killers, its best to avoid playing this weekend if the temporary changes make you feel uncomfortable.


Most survivors, if not all of them, know that there is a test this weekend that benefits them directly, while negatively affecting all killers. Because of this, you will run into a higher amount of swf groups burning the largest map offerings that they have. There is also alot of talk here that if you dont play this weekend, "you were never a good killer", which unfortunately adds further unfavorable discussions.


Will they use the data they get this weekend to buff weaker killers? Maybe. But we all know their track record. Just remember, there are other games to play, and the change is only for this weekend.


Have fun.

Comments

  • StibbityStabbity
    StibbityStabbity Member Posts: 1,839

    On the other hand, you know what is coming up this weekend. You know that if you use BL1 to finish of a chase, those chases will take longer. As such, you can mentally prepare yourself and be willing to shrug off losses. With that said, you can otherwise play as normal and your performance will factor into the data. That data will hopefully be used to understand the state of Killers more and benefit them in the long run. By not playing, you are denying them that data, which gives them less to work with when trying to figure out the general balance, as well as targeted measures to perhaps strengthen your favorite Killer.

    As for what everyone else says, let's be real. Most of this community will trash talk you regardless of the circumstances. If someone says you're a trash Killer for one reason, they'd say it for another. You are you, they are them, and their opinion means NOTHING about you. They're just a voice on the internet with no power or influence over you. They probably whine a lot and want free wins anyways. They're aggressive because they're bad. You aren't. I love you <3 Go get em, tiger.

  • tippy2k2
    tippy2k2 Member Posts: 5,208

    I'm just going to play the game as I normally do (survivor in the morning, killer in the evening as the queues are short for each side then).

    I'm not even sure how much it'll matter. I do get BL1 once in a while but I'm usually getting it right before I catch the survivor anyway.

    If it turns out to be a huge gamebreaker, I'll just go play something else for the time being but I expect it to barely matter. It'll be interesting to see if I'm right...

  • Zeidoktor
    Zeidoktor Member Posts: 2,065

    You can also play as killers who don't really benefit from Bloodlust life the Doctor, who loses Bloodlust whenever he uses Shock Therapy.

  • Unseen_Force
    Unseen_Force Member Posts: 218

    I agree 100%, I just dont think anyone should force themselves to play this weekend because they'd be "denying them that data". We play to have fun, not force ourselves to data mine in unfavorable conditions.

  • StibbityStabbity
    StibbityStabbity Member Posts: 1,839

    I'm not saying anyone should force themselves to play. Nobody should feel forced to play a game, eat food they don't like, anything they would rather not do. What I AM saying is that if they want to play, and feel that they can tough out more possible losses, it could be beneficial in the long run.

    If someone absolutely can't stand the idea of playing with Bloodlust, they should totally not play. If they are having a bad day and DBD seems too stressful, they should do something else, regardless of what is going on in the game. If they WANT to play DBD like it's a normal day where they can enjoy it, however, they should totally give it a go. Just know that things might be different, but they can totally survive it.

    And when they do, I'll be waiting there on Monday. With smooches.

  • killers do NOT need bloodlust. It was made for infinite loops and those aren't in the game anymore. Its only fair for survs for it to be gone. They should make into a perk. not a built in feature for killer side. I sincerely hope they keep these changes for the game not just for the weekend. My games as surv have felt more fair then they have in a longggg time.

  • Hyd
    Hyd Member Posts: 379
    edited November 2020

    They should have just disabled Bloodlust and not said anything about it. Call it a bug Sunday morning and have it "fixed" by monday after they've collected their data. Announcing it is just going to result in a dramatic change in the player base and play styles where they probably won't be able to determine all that much accurately.

  • DeathBeam
    DeathBeam Member Posts: 259

    Go play Civilization VI instead.

  • Unseen_Force
    Unseen_Force Member Posts: 218

    Where did I say I wasnt playing this weekend? Ive played about 10 killer matches since this morning, and all of the survivors have been taunting more than usual. Its like a paradise for them this weekend and the way theyre acting is a direct result of that

  • MrPenguin
    MrPenguin Member Posts: 2,426
    edited November 2020

    That'll skew the data, you should play who you normally play if you're going to, otherwise you just skewing the results even more. If everyone plays Spirit for example, who doesnt care about BL, even if bloodlust is needed in the game right now it'll turn into "well the data says killers didn't do worse so we're removing it".

  • ChiSoxFan11
    ChiSoxFan11 Member Posts: 1,093

    This.

    The smart thing to have done would have been to disable BL completely, as you said -- except they could have done it for even longer, maybe an entire week. Bloodlust is one of those mechanisms that, when I play killer, I couldn't tell you how many times I actually have had it come into play. I honestly wouldn't have noticed if it had vanished for a day, a week, or longer, and I suspect most players wouldn't have noticed either.

    Much like their MMR debacle, they could have tracked whatever numbers they're using behind the scenes and come to conclusions afterwards knowing that, largely, said experiment would have been untainted by any outside factors (some people refusing to play killer, certain killers avoided altogether, potential map offerings, abuse of certain tiles, etc.). Instead, by announcing it ahead of time, to some extent the "data" has already been compromised in some fashion -- how that affects the end result, we'll have to see.

    FWIW, I played a half dozen killer rounds this morning with The Pig, who in theory, might be a killer that would benefit from BL. I had a couple of 4k's (one on Haddonfield that was a complete slaughter), a 3K, and 2-3 matches that were either 0-1 K's. I'm a Rank 5, and by and large, I played against ranks at my level of better (Red), at least a few of those matches against SWF teams of some number (I'm pretty sure none was against a 4-man).

    I only had one instance where I felt like BL would have helped me -- in the 3K on a Badham map, a Rank 3 Jake who was REALLY good at looping kept trying to get my attention for me to loop him at the shack. I'm still relatively new to the game (started in March), and my skills at chases still need work. It took only a loop or two around the shack to know that I wasn't catching the Jake easily, so I abandoned the chase entirely and went after weaker members of the team. I did down the Jake later in the match, after two of the other survivors were already dead and most of the pallet defenses were gone. Consciously knowing that BL was disabled definitely played a part in me leaving chases with him, though it probably left his teammates feeling like they were being targeted unfairly. Would I have kept the chases with Jake going if I DIDN'T know BL had been disabled? Possibly, or I might have still abandoned the better player to pressure gens/survivors in other places. But knowing that is definitely HAD been disabled definitely made my decision an easier one to make. That's a perfect example of why annoucing the move instead of doing it covertly WILL influence the data, and it potentially makes this experiment compromised already.

  • Bradyguy99
    Bradyguy99 Member Posts: 230

    Can confirm its everything we feared... keys and OP items and perks.... I'm just trying to practice as Demo....

  • Warcrafter4
    Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 2,917

    Its not going to take me playing to know that the open window bus loop on the auto heaven maps are an infinite without Blood Lust.

    Blood Lust prevents infinites and infinite loop chaining(Something a lot of people seem to forget it is helps with transitions) so it doesn't take more then a single game or 2 to tell how screwed killers are without it.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    So like i said: Go and see, maybe even thoroughly test it in a custom game.

  • Warcrafter4
    Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 2,917

    You say that like I haven't done it pre blood lust's inclusion.

    Despite not having a forum account I started playing around nurse's release so I know that's an infinite as I played with and against it in the past pre bloodlust.

  • Tactless_Ninja
    Tactless_Ninja Member Posts: 1,791

    That will definitely add to their rapport with the players. Blatantly lying. Isn't this transparency what we want?

    And people like OP can avoid the game all they want during these tests, but if it actually contributes to the game functioning better, I don't want to see them in the winners circle at the end.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    That wasn't against you, i was reinforcing my original comment for people to go and see.

    If you think now is exactly the same as it was years ago without checking, then you do you. 👍️

  • Warcrafter4
    Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 2,917

    Dude the open window variant hasn't been touched in years.

    Nothing has changed that would make it not an infinite as the main change the tile ever had was the closed window variant.

    I mean that tile was one of the main reasons BL and the window blocker were added to the game as its a tile that appears on nearly all maps of auto haven and is insanely easy to spot and loop to.

    I don't need to touch a red hot oven twice to make sure it still gives me 2nd degree burns.

    I know your trying to give the benefit of the doubt and I agree with trying it on all the altered map tiles but the open bus isn't one of them.

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,410

    This weekend has been awesome so far. Survivors keep burning Mary's Letter, which gives me a crapton of breakable walls to go kick. I like that. Plus, the map is really cool, aesthetically.

    The only thing that's kinda dumb is all the survivors that bring flashlights so they can click them at me, which obviously means "Please walk in the opposite direction and leave me alone." Really weird considering no Bloodlust means easier chases for them, but whatever, I don't mind being nice and letting them do gens. I know there are challenges for gen completion in the newest Tome level.

  • ZaKzan
    ZaKzan Member Posts: 544

    perfect time to blow my iri heads

  • DBD78
    DBD78 Member Posts: 3,469

    Just change strategy then. When Ruin was nerfed many started to tunnel and camp, and Noed became popular. And killer did not do too bad so just adapt to every situation.

  • Unseen_Force
    Unseen_Force Member Posts: 218

    So because there are people that dont want to play the game this weekend, you dont want them to come back at all because they took a break over these three test days? Sounds pretty childish.

  • Tactless_Ninja
    Tactless_Ninja Member Posts: 1,791

    They can play all they want. They just won't be able to have any of their pride saying "i was there for this".

    It's childish taking your ball and going home. And misconstruing my words is dishonest.

  • Unseen_Force
    Unseen_Force Member Posts: 218

    Let me get this straight, youre feeling a sense of pride this weekend for playing during a temporary test on a videogame? I think you need to evaluate your priorities

  • Warcrafter4
    Warcrafter4 Member Posts: 2,917

    When did I ever say that?

    I just know this change will be bad and will result in infinite loops but I never said I wasn't going to try.

    I personally would like to test to see if the "House of Pain"(Aka garage house) is now an infinite for nearly everyone instead of just an infinite against DS/Huntress(Yes some killers still have infinites against them even with BL).

  • Sluzzy
    Sluzzy Member Posts: 3,130

    Buff weaker killers translates to I want an ez win like I do with Freddy, Spirit, etc.

    The only thing stressful is watching your team go down to the meta killers every single game due to oppressive perks and unfriendly maps for most. This is where killers want all killers to be, an unstoppable force against 99% of the gaming population.

    It is only stressful for killer if you demand a 4K every match.

  • gibblywibblywoo
    gibblywibblywoo Member Posts: 3,772

    I'm playing. I'd like to play a decent team but all I;m getting right now are purple/green ranks despite being rank 2. Trying to have fun and play Doctor but its hard to have fun when I can't properly utilise my power because these survivors cant loop to save their lives.

  • Unseen_Force
    Unseen_Force Member Posts: 218

    No one wants easy wins, we just want the ability to have more playstyles instead of depending on meta killers, with ruin and undying on every single build, to avoid getting bullied. Survivors have plenty of different playstyles.


    We already have to deal with poor hit tracking, grab animations not working the majority of the time, downed survivors teleporting, and ridiculous gen speeds.


    "Its only stressful if you demand a 4k every match" - Or maybe you should try being trapper going against a swf with object, as they disarm all your traps, get flashlight saves while you only have 3-5 hooks, everyone is alive, and theres only 2 gens left.

  • Boss
    Boss Member Posts: 13,616

    Again, still talking about people in general, not you.

    Everyone says they quit, so i ask you why that's a thing.

    It's good of you for trying, and even better for wanting to find stuff out.

  • Hyd
    Hyd Member Posts: 379

    What rapport is there to ruin if the public doesn't know about it? If you think this doesn't actually happen in games (or really any software), you're mistaken. Patch notes notes are intentionally left vague for a variety of reasons. Companies wanting to test new features (or a removal of features in this case) that they know the public might b*tch and moan about merely end up as "Patch x.y.z - bug fixes and stability improvements" - uh huh.

    Besides, the goal here is to improve the game, and to do that, they'll need accurate data, which, by telling the public, they've guaranteed will not be as valuable. It's only a few days, and would have gone unnoticed by most anyway imo. There are much worse things to lie about (see: Bungie w/Destiny)

  • UMCorian
    UMCorian Member Posts: 531
    edited November 2020

    As a Killer Main, this is how I'm avoiding stress this weekend:

    Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity.

    Maybe next weekend, we can switch off Second Chance perks. Y'know, just to "test things out." :)

  • Bwsted
    Bwsted Member Posts: 3,452

    I've already played Pig and Legion. I felt literally zero difference so far. I sense a knee-jerk reaction in all these threads.

  • UMCorian
    UMCorian Member Posts: 531

    Mori too.

    Not because it's needed. Because you're making a point. ;)

  • TragicSolitude
    TragicSolitude Member, Alpha Surveyor Posts: 7,410
    edited November 2020

    lol well there are so many bugs and problems and balancing issues on both sides that it's just ridiculous to take it seriously. Add to that the quote that the game is "fun because it's frustrating," and the contrarian in me (not to mention the reasonable, rational human being who understands that frustration and fun are mutually exclusive) says "nuts to that."

    A lot of times I look at this game as more of a psychology experiment; I like seeing what survivors/killers will do when I play in a way opposite of what's expected. I just played keep away/hide-and-seek as tier 1 Mikey against an OoO user, and it was funny as hell watching her try to figure out where I was and run to that location (I assume she was doing that, anyway; if she was trying to run away from me, she was doing the exact opposite).

    It's also really amusing when survivors die because they have some plan and you do the opposite of what they expect, like chess but with a knife instead of intellectual strategy.

  • JawsIsTheNextKiller
    JawsIsTheNextKiller Member Posts: 3,367

    Civiliation V. Please don't encourage people to play a spreadsheet.

  • Sluzzy
    Sluzzy Member Posts: 3,130

    A trapper against a SWF is totally winnable. Against the killer meta is totally not, unless you are in a top SWF and you might have a chance to juggle and get the totems first, before everyone is dead.

  • Devious_Danny
    Devious_Danny Member Posts: 24
    edited November 2020

    just came off a 4 hour stream (Rank 1 killer) played all my weaker killers , trapper , hag , Wraith and a few more , went against some very solid teams and didnt lose a single game, in all honesty? i didnt even notice the bloodlust being removed as i never relied on it much , i would say bloodlust is more of a ''training wheel mechanic '' rather then a required , i agree with what most others say - in the best instance leave bloodlust 1 in remove level 2 and 3 as the mechanic as a whole is not really required even in some bad RNG layouts.


    Just my 2 cents really , i do understand not everyone plays at those kind of levels such as Otz etc where you never need the mechanic at all, but i wouldnt really worry if they went and removed it altogether next mid chapter patch tbh.

  • chargernick85
    chargernick85 Member Posts: 3,171

    honestly I forgot all about this I just played a game and won it with three gens still left. Let a blendette get hatch. Didn't really notice it when I was chasing people down my chases were ending kind of quick I'll pay attention to it more now