Queuing times are unbearable with SWF on PS4

Lol I just want to play with my friends, I don't need to justify that xD has nothing to do with ezmode - it just sucks to instead of playing you are waiting...

Wow I didn't know so many here are that salty about SWF. You all argue with the competitiveness, how much easier it is in SWF - and I agree that it is easier when you can communicate with the other teammates. But when I play with my friends, I don't care so much about winning, but about having fun. Hell, just because one friend doesn't play so often, which results in a lower rank, he can't ever play with me because we don't get games? What kind of logic is that? Also, when I play with other rank 1's it's the same issue.

@GodDamn_Angela
1. The game might have been made with that in mind in the beginning, but it was also clear from the beginning that SWF was going to be a thing - and it is now. There are many people doing SWF and they are part of the player base. So that's not an argument.
2. I already answered that needing to fill more space, that would justify maybe a minute and not 10.
3. The Rank disparity is hardly an issue because all the search algorithm does is take the average value of the survivors' ranks and searches for a killer lobby that has a value about that rank.

I'm really surprised about the reactions here, seems like some of you made some devastating encounters with SWF groups. I can honestly say, whenever I have SWF in my lobby as killer, I don't give a f***. It's like playing any other group of survivors, except that the saves will mostly come slightly sooner than usual and sometimes bodyblocking is a thing. It's not so different as an outsider. So I don't understand the hate.
Apparently, you guys have never experienced long waits - like the really long waits I'm referring to of 5min and more of just waiting to get connected - or you never play SWF. On PS4 at least, this is an issue, at least at certain times of the day with SWF.

Back to my point: I understand that a group of people is supposed to wait longer, but waiting longer than 5 min is not justified. Not if as single player you wait 20 seconds. Can't believe I even have to argue about that. Immediately started a discussion about SWF...

@HellDescent said:
play kyf - problem solved

We want to play together, not against each other. Problem not solved.

@Terrortot said:
@unclevincent im not salty. Just tried it, saw why its not fun, dodge ever since.  Im sure theres some killer that will take the games eventually, not entertaining to me and no reason to ready up.

I'm sorry to hear that. Of course it's your right to do so, and if SWF lobbies worked as in all other games, it wouldn't even be a problem to anyone, but I'm sure you are just missing the right strategy to make playing SWF still work for you. Maybe I'm saying this as naive PS4 player and on PC it's totally different, but on PS4 it doesn't make a huge if you play randoms or an SWF group if you play correctly (and I don't even mean camping ).
But again, it's your right to dodge them, I don't have a problem with that. I just have a problem with people telling me it's totally ok if I waste my time just because I like to play with my friends.

@Justicar said:
Sounds like the solution is to remove SWF. Supported!

Lol

@Terrortot ok, legit points. I believe the adrenalin story happens rather rarely, but still. I even want to add: I believe the most power out of comms from my experience is from telling each other when someone is being chased in order for another one to make an unhook.
But I've had cases when my friend on the hook told me to come unhook because the killer has left, only to find the killer approaching again at exactly the time I was running toward the hook.
Or the killer was chasing me, my mate felt safe and kept on doing his thing, only to suddenly find the killer behind him because he was unexpectedly spotted and changed targets. Just to name a couple of counter-examples.
You can never EXACTLY INSTANTLY tell where a killer is, and in DBD a whole situation can change in a matter of seconds, noone can communicate that fast.
Without looking around and being aware of the surroundings, the comms are useless, so it takes a good survivor from the start, and that has nothing to do with SWF itself at first. At first. But I get that skilled players like to team up.

@DeadByFlashlight
No worries friend, I understand what you are saying You are still describing the problem that a skilled survivor can single-handedly outplay a skilled killer, which is not a problem of SWF in the first instance.
You are saying since very good survivors team up, we shouldn't have SWF. That's like saying STDs are bad, there should be no more Sex. We have to adress the STD and not the Sex! SWF is great and fun, let's just give the killer some condoms to protect himself from whatever the survivors might bring when he gets action.

@DeadByFlashlight
I really disagree with the extent of the power of communication you are suggesting. Except for the timing of going for an unhook, there is really not that much of an effect if someone informs me about the postition of the killer. And of course, when someone dies, I get informed about the killer perks - but that should absolutely be fixed.
As a survivor, you are supposed to be working on a generator if you are not being chased. So if I am told by someone running OoO or alert
"The killer is in the shack" or "He is on the other side of the map" or whatever, it really doesn't change the way I play. I still work on a generator. If someone tells me "The killer is coming toward your position", usually a lot of time passes between the observant noticing, telling me, and me registrating and processing the information, so unless I'm playing a Myers or a Wraith, the terror radius would have given away that information anyway and the time I gain from the earlier notice to react accordingly is minimal. Could be even misleading.
And for knockout, from my experience a good random survivor can still guess well where the downed person lies, it's not as strong of a perk anyway.
For bond, since it works only in relatively close proximity, it is still as useful in SWF as with randoms since in that active range, things can change so fast, no verbal communication can account for that.
I really find the value of verbal communication is overestimated, it is absolutely useful, but not necessarily game-changing. Except for some special cases like adrenaline plays as @Terrortot described, and well of course the telling of killer perks after someone dies. But for that, someone first has to die, which means the killer wasn't so powerless to begin with.

@DeadByFlashlight
I would do the same if I see a survivor running around with the trapper, I'd check to see if the windows are trapped, and I had the same thing happen to me done by other randoms. So that's not necessarily an SWF phenomenon, I don't need voice comm to smartly react to another person being chased around the killer shack or some other typical trapping location.
I believe that the way I use voice comms with the people I play is pretty effective and also realistic. You act like you only play world championships of DBD with all crème de la crème military SWF teams that like give each other coordinates and clock positions each second. Almost all supposedly typical SWF situations that were described: a smart survivor would simply act like that even as a random. I know that for a fact because it happens once in a while to be in a game with one.
Don't get me wrong, I agree with you on the problem that there are situations in which good survivors can ridiculously outplay the killer. But that's a good-survivor-problem, and not an SWF problem, you are sending your resentment toward the wrong direction.

If I have a match like that, well, I just take it as it is and try to not get frustrated about it. There are games when I outrun the killer the whole match and everyone escapes, and they just take it as well. It's part of the game. Sometimes you lose, sometimes you win, sometimes deserved, and sometimes not. And that's alright.