Thanks for destroy ormond

I'm yet to play on Otmond, but honestly friend I think you're exaggerating. Give it time you'll learn the new loops

Just played a game, new map looks alot more fair

My biggest issue with Ormond aside from the ugliness, fps drops, and amount of rock loops was simply how far apart the generators were along with the general spacing of objects. I enjoyed old Pale Rose (261 tiles) as killer. I do not enjoy Ormond at all.

Ya the maps they reworked were made empty its a deadzone for most of these new maps about 60% of these maps are deadzone and only the gen areas have protection the lense is wider on the new maps and the camera angle is lower and characters seem shorter and fatter they put random stuff in shacks and made em much tighter spaces i mean they look great just need to have that good dbd flow survivors need their own character unique powers and stats something similar to what killers have

No.

Killers would just find something else to whine about.

There is such a comical overabundance of survivors. So we aren't at risk of that.

There are a LOT of survivor sided maps, and there is still a single map realm that survivors can force. Its just wild to think that survivors will quit en-mass because they have to DOWNGRADE to Haddonfield or Farms.

If your solo, large maps actually are good because solos should be avoiding being the looper and should focus a bit more on stealth (Not going full immersed obviously, but trying to hide when the killer is near rather than starting a chase) so they can ensure they aren't the first on the hook and maintain control of the game.

SWF who want to loop... have map control. So you don't have a chance to get sent to Ormond unless the killer burns a map ward, or uses an Ormond offering themselves, meaning you still have a great chance for your preferred map because you outnumber them.

Ormond was actually a problem for the killer population. It was a negative and the fact it was by far the favored map offering indicated a huge issue in balance. And it isn't even just survivor sided, it was the worst kind of survivor sided where you had the worst of all worlds: a large map, a powerful and huge central building, lots of safes of both the high wall (So ranged and stalker killers could be screwed) and low wall (so you can't be mindgamed if it isn't a huntress, slinger, myers, or ghostface) types.

There was something learned about map design with Ormond: A larger map should NOT mean more pallets evenly distributed, because pallet distance while relevant isn't as critical as pallet count, and large maps inherently are survivor sided because of longer gen patrol times and a harder time tri-genning. So you balance a large map by cutting it into smaller chunks, which means deliberate deadzones around safe areas, so that resources are sorta sectioned off. Another option is to increase the number of unsafe pallets that can buy a single hit and distribute them around evenly, but reduce safes so that you burn resources faster, but that would maintain the old problem where you can just get sent on a grand tour of loops on Ormond and lots of pallets are frustrating for rookie killers (who should not be balanced around, but who DO matter and choices that reduce their NPE are good for the game).

Ormond is better because it rewards a different style of play while still having clear advantages for survivors (You ever manage to succesfuly do a stealth run vs Doc with all 4 living in a solo game? Happened in Ormond literally today to me, it was a miracle half the survivors didn't even have madness 1 at purple ranks!) but isn't just a miserable experience for killers anymore. There is a clear upside and downside for both sides, meaning the map is fair, but still heavily affects the game compared to going to say... the Estates, or Farm.

Which obviously means it isn't good enough for survivors because they can still force an unfair map, but hey its progress.

I still didn't get new ormond as killer. Are the scratch marks finally visible?

I haven't seen anybody point it out, but isn't it just so bright? Not base, but once a gen in the area is popped, it becomes a spotlight. Get a series of gens in one area going, and you have the sun.

I never had issues on the old Ormond as killer, but I love the gfx update version 😁