Thanks for destroy ormond

Agreed. I don't understand how some people can possibly enjoy the new ormond. It's literally impossible to do anything there as survivor, loops are gone and there's a giant dead zone for no reason. The map is way too bright so stealth is out of the question too. I guess.. genrush if you can? As killer, it feels so bad to down a survivor just because there was nowhere to go and nothing they could've done. Yay, very exciting.

I played 7 games there as killer today, and didn't even get to mindgame or have a real chase, and i was playing pig. It doesn't feel fair or skillful win as killer at all, and it's just unfun.

Ormond needed a change but this didn't fix it, it just turned the problem other way around and also made it way worse. Auras and scratch marks are still broken as well, there's everything wrong with ormond now.

The center building is still very strong. There are still viable jungle gyms in various spots. There are some less safe rock loops spread out a bit more. There's one or two absolutely safe tractor loops. There's a couple of useless pallets that are just bad even by Hawkins standards (like, what was the idea here?). The map is still large, loops are overall fairer and the center building can make for ridiculous chases. Stop complaining, this map is exactly what re-designs should be.

If only Shelter Woods, Azarov's Resting Place and Suffocation Pit had this sort of brain power dedicated to them. But it seems we're expecting too much already.

Uhh... I stand by saying the FPS improvement is great. But, yeah. After playing on this map a few times now, it's high up there on my most disliked maps now as survivor. Seems like all the pallets surrounding rocks are awful. Very open map, meaning killers like Nurse, blight, Oni, etc will excel. Also means it's hard to lose killers, too.

It's one of those maps I will now predominantly hold shift + w whenever possible, even if it is risky. It's very hard to loop any killer around those rocks.

I'll tell ya the one I hate it's one of the variants of the gas station, that got literal nuked the whole front of the gas station is empty there was only 4 pallets in total on the whole map it was super garbage

You see, I can just say the same. I have 5000 hours now, play around 70/30 killer/survivor (with most of my survivor games being solo) and I escape way more than I die. Just today I tried to get the Power Moves achievement and did it in 10 games, that means 8 escapes and 1 kill with 0 perks and doing at least 1 gen (one game I got chased the whole game and couldn't get a gen done but still escaped).

When I play survivor I very rarely feel cheated by the map (it does happen, but so does it on the killer side), more often than not it's either fully my fault for going down or just my teammates getting hit by pallets and instead of running trough them they end up wasting them and going down 10 seconds later anyway with nobody doing gens. All of this is not a game balance problem, but a matchmaking problem and if we balance around that we should also buff all the killers because rank 20s keep getting matched with rank 1s and its no fun getting stomped.

Now I don't say killers are overpowered, neither do I say survivors are overpowered, both still have problems that need to get solved like Moris/Keys and certain maps, but since Ormond was one of those they ended up fixing it and made it more balanced.

My only complaint with new ormond is there's a natural rock wall outside of the main building that you can climb on top of. The killer can get up there as well but, every killer I play has trouble not falling off of it unlike survivors. I dont know it that was an intended spot but, it's very weird and feels out of place completely.

There seems to be more breakable walls now from what i have noticed. That lessens the chance of getting away. ( god forbid that happens ). Soon all survivors will be able to do is run in a straight line.

Ormond fixed now, time for Haddonfield to be my DC map.

With that answer you just showed how broken that school was 😂

And you can still go there and keep the killer busy there, you just need a figure out the routing.

And there are plenty of other spots the run the killer.

I love how you immediately start pointing fingers towards killers.

Not sure your reason other than trying to piss people of for no particular reason whatsoever.

If my memory serves me well, it wasn't the killers crying about it, it was just the devs who had decided that 😉

So hard pressing M1.

Bruh

I'm actually quite surprised they gave us a day-time map , I thought it was Dead by Daylight but I guess it's now Dead by Nightlight?

HAHAHAHA

Did you see the recent stream drop for stats?

70% kill rate, on average for killers, 3 kills 1 escape.

BTW I love it when people like you do the whole 'I play both sides equally' but then follow it up with a 'poor killer' post.

EVERY. SINGLE. TIME.

Also, can you quantify when you say escape 'so much' because those dev stats would say otherwise.

I doubt it.

I've been here since release.

Back when there were REAL infinites, not these pseudo infinites soft killers hold onto when they get owned.

The fact that you fail to even mention soloQ vs. SWF, but manage to go straight to trabalistic 'survivors' statement, tells me all I need to know about your hot take.

YouTube: dennisvaneijk1980

Check it out if i do or don't play both sides and then come back complaining I'm not playing both side.

Beside where exactly did I say I play both sides equally?

I don't record my time playing a side so it's hard to say what side I play more and which less.

That state probably is more deu to people like you who apparently can't play solo and die so quickly or killing themselves on the hook.

I can't give you exact numbers of how many games I escape, but i believe I gave you a number of about 90%.

It's ok if you're not that good in the game and can't escape as a solo, I won't judge you for it.

But don't think everyone is the same as you, there are a lot of solo survivors who can escape easily.

FYI, when you go for personal attacks, you lack critical thinking.

But lets go that route and stroke your epeen and assume you are the best and I am the worst. My point still stands.

Because of some sheer miracle you get to escape 90% of the time, doesn't discount the stats which would indicate the majority. Your perspective would be considered anecdotal and subjective.

Furthermore I don't know why you would want to highlight you don't play both sides equally for 2 reasons.

1) Who cares what your opinion is if you don't, because you don't have perspective. You're highlighting your own bias.

2) Why even bother mentioning it to begin with, it means nothing and contributes nothing to the conversation. Except for me to point out your bias.

Thanks for playing.

Well tbh I thought you were the person who said solo survivors never escape.

That's why i mentioned that I escaped that much and said you might not be as good as solo.

You started about how I said played bot side equally but followed up with a killer biased post.

Which indicates you suggest I don't play both sides.

I highlighted the fact I don't keep track of which side I play more is because you were talking about "equally".

I don't have a timer which says you played so many hours killers and this as survivor.

And i don't keep track because 1 day I play only survivor and the next day only killer, other times I keep switching after each match.

The fact that according to i follow up with a killer post and saying I don't have perspective is pretty funny.

Cause if I'm not mistaken that would be my perspective, so if that makes me "biased" towards 1 side than that is your opinion.

But it is still my perspective of the game as simple as that.

So if you say I'm biased towards killer so be it, I think very little people will care.

Sure thing boss 👍😂